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  2. hammerva

    WWE Extreme Rules 2018

    Apparently the other rumor is that the main event is Reigns vs Lashley. I guess that makes sense (can't think of a more important match) but watching sections of the crowd leave like the last time makes you wonder
  3. This was probably my favorite match of the first two nights. I appreciated the simplicity, and Suzuki delivered an excellent performance, both with the ferocity of his offense and the way he sold the dragon screw as the turning point. These guys are always good against one another.
  4. This started well with the character-driven one upsmanship and White's initial control section. It went slack in the middle. But then they got it back once White took it to the floor, Okada tried to rally and White finished it by going full dirtbag. Ultimately, it worked to set up the tourney and further White's story.
  5. Richeyedwards

    WWE Extreme Rules 2018

    According to frightful Bryan signed a new contract https://www.fightful.com/wrestling/exclusives/exclusive-daniel-bryan-has-reached-new-deal-wwe
  6. SomethingSavage

    Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 4

    Unrelated to their ring work, but it cracked me up when a smartass fan came at Gotch by asking him, "If you're supposed to be from the 1920's, why do you have a Twitter account huh?!?" Gotch's reply (and I'm paraphrasing): "If I'm supposed to be from the 1920's and I mastered fucking time travel, do you really think I couldn't figure out social media?" Oh. And I always dug Razor's lemon lime Sprite gear. Can't speak to how it looked on Flair, but as a kid? I thought it was a cool look on Razor. Maybe the gold razors or the oozy machismo helped the colors pop or some shit.
  7. hammerva

    WWE Extreme Rules 2018

    I guess this is considered spoiler although it is a DUHH one I guess this is considered being snowflake like but the idea of Hogan's first stuff back in the WWE is with the New Day comes off extremely tone def. LIke we know why they "fired" him. I mean the only thing that can make it worse would be Byron Saxton sucking up to Hogan and just being the ultimate "Get Out" in wrestling
  8. Zoo Enthusiast

    WWE Extreme Rules 2018

    I’m actually expecting it to be quite good. Especially the top two matches.
  9. SomethingSavage

    WWE Extreme Rules 2018

    I'd gladly take 30 minutes of Hulk Hogan promo'ing the shit out of this event - ON the event - over that iron man any day of the week. And holy shit. They've done that shark cage gimmick to death these last few years, haven't they? Feels like they trot that thing out at least two PPVs per year now. The top 3 matches have my attention and will get scoped out at some point - probably sporadically throughout the week. And I'm curious about Jeff/Swagske, because it could be a terrible fucking train wreck or something very unique, as well as Bryan's match. If Ronda shows up in Nia/Bliss, that could be worthwhile. Damn. When you start breaking it down, this lackluster event *could* turn into a surprisingly solid show.
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  11. flyonthewall2983

    Something To Love (Bruce Prichard's podcast)

    Wasn't he assaulted by marks when he wasn't even working for them anymore? I forget if it was Facebook or Twitter but one of the comments on the post announcing this show asked Bruce what he thought of ruining a man's life, which I thought was funny (I can have a dark sense of humor sometimes).
  12. Coffey

    WWE Extreme Rules 2018

    Rusev/Styles could be good. Sin Cara/Almas might be fun. Don't really care about the rest. Certainly not sitting through Dolph/Seth. Gonna skip this one & read after to see if there's positive word of mouth for anything, then might go back & check it out later if there's some good praise being lobbed around.
  13. SomethingSavage

    Something To Love (Bruce Prichard's podcast)

    I don't know, man. Regarding the "reading results week to week" deal, I feel like we listened to two entirely different episodes or something. I mean, sure. Conrad read what Hassan was doing. But for the first hour, there were like 4 match results - versus Maven, Slaughter, and his OVW stuff. Pretty much everything else was about the character's creation & those early vignettes. I thought it flew by and sounded like a natural conversation. Things eventually slowed down after they got into 2005, and it admittedly became more about what Hassan was doing week to week on television. But when your subject matter has SUCH a short shelf life, that's to be expected. Plus this was nowhere near as bad as the Edge or Punk episodes, which both felt like a list of results being read, with Prichard occasionally chiming in with an opinion here or there. This was much more of a back & forth. As far as Bruce's reactions go? You're absolutely right, man. And his response to Conrad asking why they didn't just edit the ski mask attack out of the show was even worse. I literally shook my head for a second after hearing Bruce behave like a child and cry out some bullshit about how hindsight could have given us better security at the airports & prevented 9/11 or whateverthefuck. It was a far reach to say the least, and it was clearly the kind of thing someone says when they feel cornered or outfoxed. I *will* play devil's advocate for a second though and say I can absolutely see why Vince would initially see value in this character. I wasn't surprised at all to hear that it was Vince's pet project at the time. And the comment about it being detrimental to position your audience as the heels rings true, but I don't believe that was ever actually the intent. I think you're underestimating Vince in this case, because - say what you will about the old man being out of touch at specific points and times - the man has a pretty fucking good track record when it comes to tweaking things and fine tuning the finishing touches on characters to get a desired reaction. I realize it may be more popular to just claim the old man is past his expiration date these days, but I think he clearly saw the kind of heat he wanted to draw with this thing. Yes. It was designed to point out xenophobia and play on the post-9/11 fears and prejudices. And it used a nugget of truth to set things up. But it felt as if it was done by design. Of course, any great antagonist believes they're actually the protagonist - their actions are justified in their minds. BUT part of the equation also involves them using extreme measures to get what they want. That's part of what separates the heroes from the villains as well. They are willing to take the shortcuts or use any means necessary to get what they desire. Vince made sure to utilize that aspect when he had Hassan go from simply pointing out Americans' prejudice... to making radical statements about beating respect out of them and rubbing their faces in it. On top of that, Hassan was an Arab American, denouncing his citizenship to this country (by gawd, OUR country!) that welcomed him in the first place. Yet *another* source of heat was introduced when he even turned on his fellow Arab Americans and verbally ran them down as well. So the whole deal of Vince making Hassan this deep "shades of grey" character seems a little... off... to me. I just don't get that vibe. Was it more thought-provoking or inspired than the usual pro wrestling tough guy? Sure. No doubt. But there never looked to be any actual desire to make him a baby face to any audience of any kind on any level. That just doesn't appear to be the case with anything they produced with the character. In the end, I think all the message boards and e-fed writers at the time simply outsmarted themselves. Everyone was buzzing about what a brilliant concept this was, but pro wrestling just doesn't function beyond a certain level. Vince knows that. And it's why he kept Hassan in spots to garner heat - never cheers. The whole story of Kurt winding Hassan up and sending him to tell Eddie not to use his finisher was more of the backstage bullshit from that time. It makes for a fun story for people to hear down the line, but it's an unfortunate snapshot of the way new guys were hazed in that time. Hassan at least has a great attitude about it and even tells the story himself in a positive, upbeat way. SummerSlam. Batista's hometown. The nation's capital. OF COURSE Vince would have considered putting the belt on Hassan there. Doubt the run would have amounted to much, but the idea seems precisely like something Vince would do in that situation.
  14. tallmike

    WWE Extreme Rules 2018

    Let Hogan be in the Hall of Fame, in video games, playlists on the network, etc... but keep him off my TV screen.
  15. Hulk Hogan back in the WWE hall of fame after a "3 year suspension" apparently racism has a three year half life. https://www.wwe.com/article/hulk-hogan-reinstated-into-wwe-hall-of-fame?sf193730743=1 Will he turn up on the PPV/network special? In a skit with the new day? The full card for WWE Extreme Rules 2018 is as follows: WWE Championship Match AJ Styles (c) vs. Rusev Roman Reigns vs. Bobby Lashley Braun Strowman vs. Kevin Owens (Steel Cage Match) SmackDown Tag Team Championship Match The Bludgeon Brothers (c) vs. Team Hell No Intercontinental Championship 30-Minute WWE Iron Man Match Dolph Ziggler (c) vs. Seth Rollins United States Championship Match Jeff Hardy (c) vs. Shinsuke Nakamura Raw Women’s Championship Extreme Rules Match Alexa Bliss (c) vs. Nia Jax SmackDown Women’s Championship Match Carmella (c) vs. Asuka (with James Ellsworth suspended above the ring in a Shark Cage) Raw Tag Team Championship Match “Woken” Matt Hardy & Bray Wyatt (c) vs. The B-Team Finn Bálor vs. “Constable” Baron Corbin Kickoff Match The New Day vs. SAnitY (Tables Match) Kickoff Match Sin Cara vs. Andrade "Cien" Almas
  16. Good. Considering the reputations and actions of some other people who were inducted, and as of yet not kicked out, what he said was a drop in the bucket.
  17. Murakami is the stuff of nightmares in this match, yikes. He gets bloodied early into the match and boy does he bleed. He rises up like some ghoul and then willingly gets rocked with punches by Enson before putting on the armbar and refusing to let go. Enson continues punching and stepping on Murakami's face, ragdolling the ref aside to continue the beating until the ref calls it. Cue the DMX. Not so much a match but viscerally wild.
  18. SomethingSavage

    Why It Ended with Robbie E

    Today's meal prep was accompanied by the Simon Gotch episode. He's a guy I'd never bothered listening to before last week, and now I've heard a whole slew of his shoots and interviews. I'd read and heard his attitude & demeanor compared to a certain Chicago native, but now I totally see it. He's got the same outspoken, abrasive personality as Punk - and he kind of carries himself with a certain sense of entitlement, similar to Punk (even before he ever broke big). Anyway, it all makes for an engaging listen, for sure. Gotch pulls no punches & pretty much gives zero fucks. There's the usual fun stuff about Enzo being a clown and a joke thief. But he also has an interesting take on Baron Corbin that's worth hearing. Also dug his description of Daniel Bryan as the Gordon Ramsay of professional wrestling.
  19. Jmare007

    Current New Japan

    They could come up with an angle/rivalry thing for him to get a title shot in the Fall anyway, but if that was the plan it's weird they didn't do the typical thing of pinning the champ in the G1 to earn a title shot. Or maybe he's actually gonna win the whole thing back to back. I'm all for Gedo no repeating the 2015 story with Naito/Okada, but the WK 12 finish is gonna look as stupid as it did in January if Okada wins the G-1 and the payoff of WK is Naito being out of the title picture for more than a year. White beating Okada was actually expected. Day 1 upsets are almost mandatory in the G-1 (and most puro tournaments) and they are running with the angle that Okada has lost a step after losing the belt and is trying to find his groove again. RE: Naito. It's kind of hard picturing him winning the tournament back to back - specially before today's results - so his best bet to get to the WK 13 main event title match (and make this year's ending worth a damn for him) was winning the belt from Kenny before January. The path for him to get that title shot would've presented itself if he pinned Omega today, as it's become a tradition of sorts for every guy that beats the champ in the G-1 to get an IWGP title match in September/October/November. With him losing, he either has to win the G-1 or they gotta come up with a new reason for him to challenge Kenny before WK. Or hell, maybe Naito becomes the first person to challenge the G-1 winner and actually beat him for the n°1 contendership.
  20. SirEdger

    Current New Japan

    Why's that much of a shocker that Naito lost to Kenny in his first match? I'm way more stunned that Okada lost his first match to Jay White.
  21. I agree that they match up well. They always find creative ways to dramatize the style contrast, like that cool spot where ZSJ intercepted Ibushi's backflip dive and turned it into a submission. That said, this one never quite took off from very good to great. Sabre often struggles to kick his matches into high gear, and I thought his tendency to jump from hold to hold hurt him here, because you lost that sense of him grounding the more dynamic athlete. Ibushi didn't sell as well as he could have either. So yeah, I'm always happy to see them go at it, but I feel like they have a great match in them and this wasn't it.
  22. Great recommendation Boss! This is some pro wrestling right here. Favorite match of the G1 thus far. Yoshinari Ogawa like performance from Yano. They did so much with so little. It'll be fun to see if Yano can keep from cheating.
  23. I loved this. It was a lot of fun. Yano trying to wrestle a straightforward match and not revert to his normal tendencies was much more fun than his standard comedy stuff. I audibly reacted to the finish. Not a great match or anything but a blast.
  24. dawho5

    World Class Championship Wrestling July 1986

    Kabuki or Muta (I'm assuming here) and Maeda showing up in the Wrestling 3 feud is freaking awesome. Street and Adonis feuding should be a lot of fun, although there would be make-up everywhere. Big doings in the 6-man tag match. Nikita luring Kerry into the sickle only for the 'Birds to win the straps. I can't imagine Kerry will be pleased going into next week. Or 100%. Dusty vs. Terry will always be a match worth watching. I'm sure the RnRs put on their usual (and great!) match. Great finish to the show with the Von Erichs standing tall. And a wild Texas brawl to set it up.
  25. Hell of a main event for that show. I'd say one of the benefits of running 3 big cards a month is the stacked cares _every_ time out and this is no exception. Robinson and Rocco against the luchadors is a very interesting matchup on paper.
  26. Boss Rock

    Current New Japan

    If Okada ends up winning the tournament, that's pretty much it for Naito main-eventing WK next year.
  27. Microstatistics

    World Cup, football and Pro Wrestling

    What a weird final. Really glad France won, they have been the best team this tournament. They didn't bring their best game to the final (atleast in the first half) but they adjusted, created and took all their chances. Croatia learnt the harsh lesson that domination means nothing if you can't seal the deal (a classic wrestling theme too like in Liger vs. Sano from 1/1990). Really impressive midfield play from them but they barely managed any real chances and were pretty much drained by the end. Still, an excellent performance. And good god, the vitrol towards France on places like reddit's r/soccer is unreal. They were fully on the Croatia underdog bandwagon and were so salty throughout the match. France got a bit lucky in the first half with the free kick but acting like Croatia was robbed and France cheated their way to the title is ridiculous.
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