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  2. El-P

    The Self Destruction of Jim Cornette

    Being part of it doesn't make you a good historian though. Especially when it distorts the perception you have of things because of personal bias. Corny is a great archivist and storyteller.
  3. flyonthewall2983

    The Self Destruction of Jim Cornette

    No matter how out of step he gets, or how many times people 'cancel' him, we need his perspective. If just to provide a balance and a sense of history to everything, he's maybe better at it than someone like Meltzer who has always been on the sidelines, no matter how close he got he was never in it.
  4. El-P

    NWA Powerrr

    You know, I sure hope they actually have an actual story that makes sense of all the Aldis/Storm/Storm/Drake/Kamille/Latimer-Isaacs stuff, because at this point, it kinda looks to me like it's supposed to be some really intricate stuff while in reality they just throw a bunch of nonsense together with the pretense it's such a complex mystery and all. I dunno, intrigue is good, but at this point, there's no understandable story at all, people just interact and argue and don't talk and talk about people not talking... I did enjoy the main event though, Trevor Murdoch should wrestle there every week. And between brutalizing jobbers like a regular Kevin Sullivan and that MMA movie, Thunder Rosa looks legit like the biggest star apart from Aldis/Kamille. Lots of good promos again, including from Cabana. Although two comedy/silly segments on a 46 mn shows is kinda ironic, considering Corny's stance about that stuff. Especially the ?Mark which is so, totally, absolutely self aware cheesy 80's shit cosplay (yep, it is). I guess it's better than Jocephus. Hope the Spiritual Advisor shows up, because that video is old after three weeks straight. I wonder how the next set of tapings are gonna go, now that there has been hype for the product and Corny has gone completely insane in the meantime. Also, I wonder how many of these guys are actually signed and if the cast of this first set of tapings will change much or not.
  5. El-P

    WWE TV 11/11 - 11/17 Dark days indeed

    He looks disgusting, that's how he looks.
  6. KawadaSmile

    WWE TV 11/11 - 11/17 Dark days indeed

    Cole needs to do roids. PAC was even worse and look at how he is now. Also Jinder looks legit and he was pretty unimpressive during his 3MB days. Do it Cole. Leave your noodle arms behind.
  7. Log

    WWE TV 11/11 - 11/17 Dark days indeed

    HHH needs to cut one of those promos on his boy Cole.
  8. Matt D

    WWE TV 11/11 - 11/17 Dark days indeed

    Given his current lack of bulk, can you imagine the HHH promos.
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  10. I listen to these on occasion. I enjoyed the Brandi episode and the one with Alvarez plugging his book.
  11. Superstar Sleeze

    Beyond Wrestling: Unchartered Territory on IWTV

    You are doing the Lord's Work brutha! I fucking love THE NERD! He was an instant hit with me and love his throwback style. He is like the coolest possible Dory Funk Jr. I ended up attending all but three episodes of the First Season. I have only missed two episodes live this year. I really should add my comments. To be frank, I did think the past two shows were the weakest I have attended. The Halloween episode was filled with a lot of comedy wrestling that didnt hit my funny bone, but they drew a monster crowd and they loved it. So thumbs up there! Then this past episode, I really liked the Jay Freddie match. He is an Asskicker to the MAX! Such a throwback to 90s workrate and just absolutely love it. I thought the Remix dude was going to be a generic flippy dude, but he acquitted himself well. Other than that, it was a pretty weak card. The best match of Season 2 has easily been Thatcher vs Kingston. I was in MARK OUT CITY watching that unfold live. I have been pretty bummed Dirty Daddy, the co-workhorse of Season#1, has been stuck in pretty lame tags with the "Suck Me" guy. Then Solo Darling, the co-workhorse of Season #1, has not been on a lot of the episodes I have been to, but I did really like match with Dick Holliday (it is right there, babyfaces), what a hellacious powerbomb that was!
  12. Jmare007

    WWE TV 11/11 - 11/17 Dark days indeed

    LMAO. We've reached peak Seth Rollins.
  13. El-P

    WWE TV 11/11 - 11/17 Dark days indeed

    The Attitude era was the most successful and it was also 90% complete garbage, so…
  14. I'm on a quest to find the ultimate japanese indy sleaze match. This is part of a weird 3 vs. 3 match that starts with a singles match then a 2 vs. 2 tag and the a 6 man tag, but this match is good enough to watch on it's own. Hiroshi Watanabe is a guy who has been around since the early 90s and never really got a shot due to being undersized even by indy standards. Yamada is a guy who barely makes tape and doesn't really get to do anything working HEAT UP undercard matches and Gatoh Move. And here they are, working a really good MUGA match. Maybe these two have some kind of Z-level indy Solar/Negro Navarro feud going on. Anyways, Yamadas unorthodox attacks ruled and due to Watanabes selling his joint manipulations appeared really painful. Then both guys do this really elaborate section built around indian deathlocks, leg stretches and pin attempts that was some of the most fun pro style matwork in years. Watanabe decimating Yamada with backdrops was simple but worked and Yamada took some nice bumps. The finish was built around Yamada trying to hurt Watanabe with rough technical moves and Watanabe coming up with cool counters. Highlights include Yamada busting out a Curb Stomp of all things, some nasty legwork and a really well timed sequence of counters leading to a great Robinson backbreaker. Loved the fluke finish too. This was a great modern version of a 70s style match that never felt like a tribute.
  15. Dav'oh

    AEW Full Gear

    I think the moral line between "trying to mutilate" someone with gimmicked weaponry and Jake Roberts putatively driving someone's head back into their shoulder blades with a DDT is mighty thin, if it exists at all.
  16. KawadaSmile

    WWE TV 11/11 - 11/17 Dark days indeed

    The thing about that Rusev/Lana/Lashley angle is that it's by far the one generating the most buzz. Every single segment reached the 2M views mark, and that can't just be morbid curiosity. Good or bad, right or wrong, they managed to generate interest in that. It's schlock, and it's sleazy. And yet, the crowds are losing their minds over it. As for Punk, nothing seems more fitting than appearing in a late night show only doing commentary. I actually expect him to delivery some hot takes. I mean, Booker T is there and let's not forget he said Bayley couldn't talk for shit during one of their PPVs.
  17. Jmare007

    WWE TV 11/11 - 11/17 Dark days indeed

    I don't think he makes it to 2020 on that show unless Fox really likes him and blocks WWE from their request of shutting him up because he consistently (and rightfully) shits on the product every time he's on Backstage
  18. Main event equals Michael Buffer on ring announcing duties. The straitjacket is attached to the roof of the cage, although to win the match you have to pin your opponent or make them submit, the jacket is not essential in that regard and is only there to help incapacitate your opponent. It should also be noted that this is one of those cages that encloses the ringside area as opposed to just the ring itself. Steiner is lay in wait and jumps Booker as soon as he enters the cage, but the whip on the floor is reversed and ‘Big Poppa Pump’ crashes into the steel. He throws him into the ring steps as Tony Schiavone reminds us about his new attitude before searching for something under the ring. Whatever it was he was looking for he couldn’t find and goes back to beating on the challenger. Steiner blocks the suplex and then crotches Booker over the top rope. Belly to belly for a two. Booker catches a kick and boots Scotty in the mid-section but Steiner cuts off the axe kick with a Steinerline. Samoan drop off the middle rope. Bear hug into a reverse atomic drop as it looks like he’s trying to soften the back up in readiness for ‘the recliner’. Booker ducks the clothesline and comes back with a flying forearm. Missile dropkick for a near fall. He make his way over to the corner to retrieve the straitjacket, however Steiner is up, right behind him and then dumps him with a second Samoan drop. Scotty grabs the straitjacket although he’s really unsteady on the top turnbuckle. Booker gets him in an ‘Electric Chair’ and Steiner lets go of the jacket which falls to the floor. Harlem sidekick. Stevie Ray is screaming at his brother to forget about the straitjacket and go for the pin. He’s paying no attention though and locks Steiner in it before collecting a steel chair. Two hard chair shots from ‘the Book’ as Schiavone says how this isn’t the Booker T that they know. Stevie says that is the Booker he knows, though he just hasn’t seen him for a long time. ‘Big Poppa Pump’ rips his way out of the straitjacket and after Booker whips him into the corner an almighty Steinerline turns the champion inside out. ‘Steiner recliner’ as Mark Madden shouts “crank it big man!” He fights his way to the ropes but Steiner pulls him back into the middle of the ring. Somehow Booker gets to his feet whilst still in ‘the recliner’ and with Scotty again in an ‘Electric Chair’ position he drops him across the top rope. The challenger is back to his feet first but Booker plants him with ‘the Book End’. That takes as much out of him as it does his opponent. Steiner kicks out after a stiff clothesline with Mark Madden now thinking that he’s immortal! FFS thaty guy is so annoyting. He grabs a chair and cracks Booker in the head with it. Scotty returns once more to ‘the recliner’ and this time Booker passes out from the pain as we have a new WCW World champion. Stevie Ray isn’t happy about the result, noting that Booker didn’t tap and thinks that Charles Robinson may be on the take. Steiner continues to assault Booker after the match, even cracking referee Slick Johnson over the head with a chair in the melee, the PPV going off air with Steiner brandishing that chair.
  19. This is from the same NWA Wildside spot show as the Styles & Onyx tag. A raffle has determined which members of the audience get to be lumberjacks and I like how the ring announcer runs down the rules to them, rules which must be adhered to otherwise they’ll be escorted from the building. Oh, and “please, no groin shots!” You’ve got a rough idea of how this is going to go with all the layers of clothing that the heel team are wearing. Yup, within the first couple of minutes Michaels ends up on the outside four times. Before he tosses him out for the fifth time Wrenn removes his top so the audience can get some licks in on his bare torso. Dazz with a double Japanese armdrag on Bad Attitude and this time both get thrown to the floor. They’re quickly back inside and pleading for a bit of mercy from their opponents. Michaels offers a hand and as Scotty looks at it, he boots him in the mid-section and then hurls him outside. As he tells the lumberjacks to “whip him”, they just stand there. J.C. from behind gives Michaels a shove and the lumberjack don’t need to think twice, on him like flies on shit. Wrenn pulls his bottoms down prior to the next time he throws him out, that elicits a “he’s got skidmarks” chant which made me laugh. Young counters the quesadora with a ‘Blue Thunder Bomb’ as the heels go to work on J.C. Sunset flip by Dazz. Michaels grabs the ropes to prevent him being himself from being taken down, so J.C. yanks his pants down and Michael is out there with his bare ass on display for one and all. The official fails to see the tag which allows Bad Attitude to double team Dazz while he tries to get Wrenn out of there. When he misses it for a second time Scotty throws him to the floor and the fans start whipping the referee. Dazz with a Frankensteiner but immediately then runs into a spinebuster. He counters the attempted Samoan Drop with the ‘Rings of Saturn’ forcing Young to break up the submission. The officious referee, who couldn’t wait to get Wrenn out of there, is happy to let this go. At the fourth time of asking J.C. makes a tag which is seen and Big Scotty runs wild. The ref gets accidentally bumped courtesy of a clothesline, as Young ducks out the way, and when the Boogaloo Crew hit their ‘Boogaloo Bounce’ it looks like there is no-one to count the fall. Dazz with a bit of clever thinking drags the unconscious referee over and slams his hand to the mat three times. The Crew are initially announced as the new NWA Wildside tag team champions, but when the official comes around he takes the belts off them and hands them back to Bad Attitude, the Boogaloos winning the match via disqualification but not the title belts. He should’ve got out of there sharpish as the Crew get hold of him and Scotty holds a chair in place which J.C dropkicks it into his face. The first ten minutes of this is all shtick before settling down into a Southern tag match, with sprinklings of more shtick thrown in there. It was highly entertaining, especially the opening portion and you could tell that the fans were really enjoying it. The lone criticisms would be the groanworthy ‘Dusty finish’, which I had a feeling was coming the moment the Boogaloo Crew were announced as the new tag team champions, and the weak disqualification. Why didn’t the ref disqualify the Boogaloo Crew when Scotty Wrenn threw him outside to be whipped by the fans? That was far more worthy of a disqualification than an accidental clothesline. If it was me booking things I would’ve just made this a non-title match, that way the fans would’ve gone home happy and the match wouldn’t have finished on a downer.
  20. It doesn’t take long before these two are on the floor helping themselves to some of the weapons that the fans have bought along. Tony grabs a pair of plastic baseball bats covered in drawing pins and by the time he’s done swinging them it looks like Fear’s wearing a metallic gold wig, a ton of tacks embedded into his skull. Allister even does the Ric Flair face first bump on the concrete after having a pumpkin broken over his head. An eye rake briefly stops Tony in his tracks, but as Fear goes to powerbomb him onto the cactus, he blocks and backdrops him onto it instead. Providing that was a legit cactus, and knowing how Ian is about these things I expect it is, there is no way that didn’t hurt to high heaven. 2 Tuff rests a batch of light tubes between a couple of chairs but before he can finish what he started, Fear fights back. He sits Tony on the top turnbuckle and hits a brainbuster onto the light tubes. I don’t know if that was meant to be a superplex and he didn’t get him all the way over, but it looked brutal. Low bow by Tony who then rolls to the outside, setting up some chairs before covering them with all manner of items (light tubes, barbed wire, cactus etc.), even managing to dent a chair over Allister’s head while he’s doing it. He drapes Fear across the top rope and then balances a handful of light tubes on his back. Somersault legdrop from the top! That gets an incredible reaction, incredible in the sense that there can be no more than 200 people in the building, just the noise that they make after it. He looks to follow up but is caught and Fear suplexes him out of the ring and into all that debris. Tony picks up a huge metal sign which he wallops Fear with, drags him inside and as he staggers around, hits him over the back of the head with another object. “Tony, Tony, Tony” the crowd are loving this. Another low blow by Fear followed by an ‘Ace Crusher’ onto whatever that object was that Tony hit him with. That surprisingly puts 2 Tuff away as Fear moves on in the tournament. We get a close up of Tony’s elbow which is all cut up and bleeding something rotten from when he took that suplex to the floor. I agree with the other commentators, a real good Death match with some nasty ass bumps in there. I don’t know how heralded he is compared to the likes of Ian Rotten, Corporal Robinson, J.C. Bailey etc. but 2 Tuff Tony is someone who impresses me the more I see of him.
  21. A smooth as reversal of the wristlock by Reckless who then takes Andrews down whilst keeping the hold applied. Scoot escapes, Reckless then escapes his side headlock and he’s back at that wrist. Just nice clean wrestling going on here. Inverted atomic drop by Youth. Scoot reverses a whip to the corner, but Reckless sidesteps his charge and sits him on the middle turnbuckle. He joins him up there and hits a middle rope jawbreaker. Hat Guy is in attendance, again, he’s not even facing the camera and you can see him! Reckless counters the attempted side slam with a headscissors and then backdrops him over the top rope to the outside. Tope suicida! Back inside Scoot catches Reckless with a tilt-a-whirl backbreaker, dropping him across his own knee. A real slack cover after the dropkick though, choosing to put just one hand on Youth’s chest. Butterfly suplex and the cover is slightly better this time. Scoot tosses him to the floor where he rams his back into the apron. Reckless blocks the suicideplex, countering with a face first superplex, before coming off the top with a flying knee to the side of the head. As he leaps to the middle rope, Scoot is right behind him, grabbing him by the vest and yanking him backwards to the mat. Scoot misses the top rope legdrop as Reckless then starts to fire back. Asai moonsault. What I would call a spinning ‘Sicilian slice’, but Scoot gets a foot over the ropes to break the count. Andrews keeps hold of the arm on the Irish whip and lands a powerslam. At the second time of trying he lands the suicideplex, although that takes it out of both men. Exploder suplex for a near fall. Scoot sits his opponent up top, however Reckless fires away with some shots to the mid-section and lands a super inverted atomic drop. Brainbuster followed by a frog splash for a great near fall. Andrews ducks a right hand and again goes for the ‘Pumphandle Driver’, this time though Reckless flips over and ties him up in an awesome rolling cradle for the win. Good match with both working hard. Some innovative stuff in there as well as plenty of real nice wrestling which was right up my street. Of all the people who went through their system and got runs in the WWF, or shot after shot, it’s criminal that Reckless Youth never got a chance on the main roster. Yeah, back then there is every likelihood he would’ve been relegated to working with Essa Rios and Crash Holly on Metal but he deserved that chance at least.
  22. Slightly different rules than usual for this cage match as you can win either by pinfall, or if both team members escape out over the top of the cage. No Lita with the Hardyz, Michael Cole understanding that she is still suffering after having her head slammed into the concrete Thursday night on Smackdown. The Hardyz powerbomb Christian into the side of the cage and Jeff then crashes into his helpless opponent with a ‘Poetry in Motion’. He climbs all the way to the top of the cage for a ‘Swanton bomb’, but Edge, who is now back to his feet, gives him a shove and Jeff loses his balance, and then grip, as he drops to the arena floor. Matt is doing okay at first against the tag team champions, getting a near fall on Christian after a ‘Twist of Fate’, however from the moment Edge breaks up the pin he’s in trouble in what is effectively now a handicap match. The commentators have differing views on the rules, Cole completely confused, initially thinking Jeff was out of the match when he exited the cage, although he has now changed his tune (probably after getting word from the back!). Christian starts climbing the cage, and it probably would’ve been smarter for Matt to let him escape, but he catapults Edge into him instead. He himself looks to escape, getting just over the top of it when he is caught by E&C who superplex him back inside. Matt is busted open and Jeff is wanting back in to help his brother, although every effort is thwarted by E&C. He ends up assaulting referee Jimmy Korderas and swiping the key to the padlock on the cage door. After getting the door open he slides a chair into the ring, but before he can get in himself Christian cuts him off, smashing the cage door into his face. Christian grabs a second chair from ringside and then re-locks that door. E&C with a ‘Poetry in Motion’ on Matt! He ducks the ‘Conchairto’ and floors them both with a double clothesline. As he once more tries to escape he is followed by E&C. Edge grabs him, but Jeff throws a ladder at Christian who subsequently falls to the floor meaning the next man out will determine the winners. With both stood on the top turnbuckle, Edge with a bulldog on Matt. Jeff climbs the cage, but as Edge prevents him from getting back in Matt snatches him with a belly to back suplex. ‘Whisper in the Wind’ from the top of the cage by Jeff! A groggy Christian climbs the ladder on the floor, he too now wanting to get back inside, when out runs Lita who low blows him. Huracanrana off the ladder by Lita. Edge launches a ladder into the face of Jeff and starts a slow climb up the cage wall. He’s not quick enough though and the Hardyz, carrying chairs, trail right behind him. They catch him on the top of the cage where they dish out a ‘Conchairto’ of their own, Edge taking a flat back bump from the cage into the ring. The Hardyz escape and we have new WWF tag team champions.
  23. FMKK

    WWE TV 11/11 - 11/17 Dark days indeed

    Rusev would literally be so awesome anywhere else. I'd love to see him in a G1.
  24. Or maybe they sign PCO away from ROH and make him Jean Pierre Lafitte again.
  25. Stiva

    Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 4

    Another Paul Burchill run
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