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  2. MoS

    All Elite Wrestling

    I haven't had the time to watch Dynamite, but completely agreed in re FTR with both Jerome and Dave. They are red hot, and Bald might be the best US wrestler singles or tag right now. I was honestly thinking that some heel team would beat Jurassic Express just to keep the belt warm for FTR to win them. I am not entirely sure that I would use Starks and Hobbs for that purpose though: as good as FTR are, I would argue that Starks and Hobbs are also very good, definitely too good to be used as transitional champs to help kickstart another team's reign.
  3. Matt D

    AEW TV 5/25-5/31

    I have a vague memory of early days ROH where the excitement would be in the card that they put together. That was especially true if the show was coming to your neck of the woods if you didn't get them all the tie (I was in MA at the time so I wasn't exactly getting the Philly nexus shows). The excitement for AEW in 2022 feels a lot like that: matches for Rampage being announced on Dynamite, that last Dynamite match that gets announced on Wednesday, etc. Three weeks ago, I didn't know I wanted Danielson vs Sydal with Regal on commentary and Danielson testing his leg out and Sydal fighting for the notions of Peace, Love, and Pro Wrestling, but I absolutely do. I probably wasn't super interested in them running back Soho vs Statlander but Soho really needs to make her mark and Statlander has to get over the new character tweak and has been leaning even harder into her strength and it should be interesting. I didn't know I wanted to see a more aggressive Lee Moriarty against Alex Reynolds and Alan Angels, but hey, apparently I did, and they were good matches. Yeah, there's booking, and there are stories, but it's a promotion with a huge roster that doesn't often run rematches, so almost all the matches end up feeling fresh. I'm probably as excited for that moment of them announcing the next card or of getting a glimpse at the Dark tapings as I am for actually watching any of the actual matches in-ring. But ask me again if I feel that way in six months and we'll see.
  4. El-P

    AEW TV 5/25-5/31

    The thing is, the company is three years old. It's way past the honeymoon period. After 18 years without an alternative as a mainstream promotion, there it is, it exists. It's not a "what if", it's not a "let's see what happens now", it exists and is three years old. The excitement of the beginning is over. To me the best time has been 2021. Since the beginning of 2022, week-to-week booking has been pretty uneven, but they have so much talent now, too many actually, that the question of "Wow, what if X showed up in AEW?" has reached the point of the answer being "Well, they already have too much talent.". The goofiest part of the promotion, which was still deeply rooted in its indies base at first, is obviously less present now. A lot of people on the roster have already gone through the WWE machine (and not being used well there for the most part), a lot. Cody has gone back to WWE too, which, although it really doesn't make much difference at all on the shows, still makes you feel that, well, that super exciting period of the beginnings is over. The promotion is there, it exists. And it's another pro-wrestling promotion. Don't get me wrong, I do still love AEW and I have a blast watching it, but it's obviously not exactly the same as it was at first. United Empire, uh ? When Will Ospreay may not be ready to come back for the PPV after a severe kidney infection ? Yeah that's.... not the NJPW guys have would have showing up. Great O'Khan actually is getting much better, but the gimmick is what it is (lame). He saved a little girl from abduction too, so he's a IRL babyface. Joe on the other hand. Nobody saw that one coming apparently. One year ago : and now it's like the Joe of old, or an older version of the Joe of old. Quite the great surprise indeed.
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  6. kevinmcfl

    NWA

    Awesome tv shows this week. I really liked that Billy Two Eagles tried the War Dance and Hansen was having none of it. Three great tv matches this week on WCW with The Outlaws vs Good n Plenty, Fleming vs Adias and Flair vs Ole. I wish I had shows like this when I was a kid but I wonder if the house shows would have struggled. Not sure but being so far away from Southern Promotions here in NYC, I would have loved great tv. The Holiday Card looks great. Tully vs Flair.... can't wait to see which way you go.
  7. Dale Wolfe

    Is the empire crumbling before our eyes?

    I remember one from Nitro, against Regal maybe? Where Kidman doesnt even make impact and instead lands on the top rope himself and nearly breaks his neck Horrible Edit, it was his leg- https://youtu.be/Xw9CLs5YTt0
  8. From the eagle’s nest, high above the ECW arena, this is the Extreme Three Way Dance! In this episode, JT, Jenny and Matt review the next three episodes of ECW television to close out November 1996! The troublesome trio talk the fallout from November to Remember, the Blue World Order taking over, Taz's side of the story, Shane Douglas's attack on Beulah, Chris Candido's change in personality and so much more! So jump on board, grab a chair and get ready to join this threesome for an extreme journey through time! https://northsouthconnection.podbean.com/e/extreme-three-way-dance-67-ecw-tv-111796-12396/
  9. Stiva

    AEW TV 5/25-5/31

    Regal casually miming to Jericho that he was going to kill him as Excalibur advertised Draft Kings was the funniest thing AEW have done in months
  10. elliott

    Matt Sydal

    Sorry
  11. El-P

    Matt Sydal

    Ok. This is over.
  12. El-P

    Matt Sydal

    That's the least you can say. I'm triggered EVERYTIME I hear about abuse, being physical or mental, because I've lived throught it, for years (way more mental than physical, but at some point, it's the same thing, your body betrays you anyway and you crumble). This was way out of line.
  13. elliott

    Matt Sydal

    I wrote the seek therapy line before I finished reading everything. Like I said, sorry for misremembering
  14. El-P

    Matt Sydal

    Oh, so I guess you thought that telling "Seek therapy" to someone who'se lived through a ten years abusive relationship after you've bullshit accused him of disturbing stuff behind his back wasn't the right thing to do. All that because you disagreed about some pro-wrestling stuff ? Holy fuck man. You don't know what I've been through. You don't know my life. And you're going on a public forum throwing accusations, and won't even have the decency to apologize and make light of me defending myself ? Really ?
  15. elliott

    Matt Sydal

    Yes, sorry for misrepresenting what you said.
  16. El-P

    Matt Sydal

    Seriously ? You make accusations on Discord, behind my back, about really disturbing stuff too, and this is what you have to say when I expose it as complete bullshit ? So, no apologies for bullshit accusing me of something actually quite disturbing ? Not to menton the fact to defend myself I had to dig up in a part of my life I'd rather not think about anymore, ever ?
  17. elliott

    Matt Sydal

    Glad to see I misremembered
  18. elliott

    Matt Sydal

    Wow
  19. El-P

    Matt Sydal

    Meanwhile, @elliott, on FUCKIN DISCORD : "I have to remember that El-P once wrote a long explanation for why it was ok for him to hit his girlfriend. So they're not worth engaging with" Well, it's been established that's pretty much a lie. Or misremembering. And then : "I remember it years ago. Everyone called him out and he defended it. There was lots of like "they have to know their place aND that you're the man" stuff like that Then it became "oh no, I'm French I didn't know what the words mean" like they haven't been on English language message boards for over a decade by the n" Well, actually, that's a reference to the second post (the ironic one), and the fact I English is not my first language was actually not me talking about it but another poster defending me on that topic, and it all came down because I had used the word "retard" and the guy who was happy to watch Sullivan "knocking the piss" out of a woman acted offended because of it. Nothing to do with anything in reference to me and my ex-girlfriend or whatever. BTW, the guy in question ended up getting banned because he was still trying to troll me because of my usage of an offensive word. By the way when someone jumped to explained English was not my first language, here was my answer : I also said But of course, *nothing* to do with my girlfriend's issues WHATSOEVER. So again, either a lie. Or misremembering. So, apologies would be in order. Also, you can direct your Discord people toward these posts, I did the work myself and re-contextualized it too. I don't have dirty secrets to hide and I don't deal with people behind their backs either. So yeah, an apology from you would be the LEAST you could do, for going behind my back on DIscord and half-way calling me a domestic abuser.
  20. El-P

    Matt Sydal

    And guess what, I found the post ! I mean, since we're off topic, why the hell not. Dunno what I was taking about with PC feminism bullshit but the rest of the paragraph is pretty clear. Ahh, the infamous "I've slapped my girlfriend under the influence of alcohol." Yep. And that was during the time she had asked me to do so, indeed (hence the "she's that kind of girl", but back then I wasn't gonna expose such intimates details). Still made me feel like a complete and utter shitbag like I said. Oh, what do I say next : "You don't hit a woman, period." Hi @elliott ! If you read the thread, this is apparently during a debate on intergender wrestling, hence my first remark (replying to someone saying "if you treat a woman weaker than a man you're sexist") There's another occurence in my research, which is this Holy shit ! What's up with that ? Oh wait, apparently it was a very ironic (but very bad taste indeed, like it was pointed out to me later) conclusion during a debate when I was actually saying this a bit earlier in the thread : So there... So I was actually getting angry at someone getting pleasure out of Kevin Sullivan "knocking the piss" out of a woman.
  21. El-P

    Matt Sydal

    And so now @elliott is going on on the GWE Discord (so, basically behind my backs) saying I once wrote a post on PWO about how it was ok for me to hit my (abusive, but nonetheless) girlfriend. Wow. So first of all, I've talked about that very personal issue before (the fact I've been in an abusive relationship), and although I don't remember that specific post the fact that because he disagrees on some stuff about Hulk Hogan the guy sees fit to go *behind my back*, on the GWE Discord to say shit like this speaks volume. I'd be super curious to see what that post was though, and especially the context of it. The fact that because a disagreement on "context about Hulk Hogan matches" leads to "This guy once wrote a post where he explains it was ok for him to hit his girlfriend." tells a whole lot about you, especially when you do that *behind my back* at a place you think I won't know about it. Clap clap clap. FTR, I never hit my ex-girlfriend unless she asked my to (because it was a kink of her for a while). She was sometimes a violent drunk and I had to defend myself physically and on some occasions physically keep her from hurting other people (basically because she was always wanting to drive drunk). There you go.
  22. WingedEagle

    Matt Sydal

    It doesn't seem all that controversial to say that wrestlers from and since that era have had more big matches than Hogan. Perhaps there's an argument for the last few years where the company became the top pushed headliner and house shows disappeared due to COVID. Hogan's likely had more weight and importance due to their scarcity, but based on pure count there are many with more than him.
  23. Blehschmidt

    AEW TV 5/25-5/31

    100% agree. Toni and Britt either had an off night or have zero chemistry together. It was not good at all.
  24. El-P

    Matt Sydal

    When did I say big matches did not exist before PPV ? As far as big matches on house shows, sorry, but I'm pretty sure none of them are what was referred to as "matches that *everybody* can cite off the cuff", which is what I'm talking about. Mania 1 not being a PPV is cute as hell in term of ridiculous nitpicking. Is that even debatable that John Cena and Roman Reigns (by everyone I meant every top guy, which is why I detailed it into Cena and Reigns in the *very next sentence*, but I guess my fault for not being specific enough from the very first sentence), to take two guys who have occupied pretty much the same social spot as Hogan in the WWE (long tenure on top as super dominant figures, Austin and Rock were a bit different in term of booking), have way, WAY more big matches that have been presented to the audience on TV and PPV than Hogan had during his peak (that's discounting most of his WCW stuff, as again I don't think any of them apart from a few exceptions were the ones being referred too, Hogan vs Rock being another exception in term of belonging in a later context when things already got different, that's also after Hogan's peak) ? I mean, come on now. There have been competitive main events on weekly TV for almost 25 years now + 12 PPV a year. Hogan had a token of big PPV matches and a few Saturday Nights Main Event (more or less, because Mania 1 wasn't a PPV, although I doubt anyone would push the Mania main event as a great Hogan match anyway). The business model was different then and it absolutely plays a part in how matches were perceived. It's ridiculous to even argue against the fact a fan who's seen about , say 15 big Hogan matches during his teenage years won't remind them better than someone who has seen, I dunno, a hundred John Cena matches during the same time span. It is, and I did not even talk about their supposed quality or lack thereof, as it wasn't even a point I was making. What a waste of time, really, to have to explain that Hogan had less big matches than Cena or Reigns, which obviously plays a part in how they are remembered, especially by people who have seen it when their brain was younger. Oh well... Anyway, this is totally off-topic and probably should be moved to the Hogan thread. Isn't Hogan cancelled anyway at this point ?
  25. Tetsujin

    Matt Sydal

    Them being good is just another thing, though.
  26. sek69

    Is the empire crumbling before our eyes?

    Kidman was nearly killing people with it back in his WCW days. I clearly remember reading at the time that Vince didn't like how many near misses he had and was discouraging anyone from using the move.
  27. Alucard

    Is the empire crumbling before our eyes?

    Interesting story there from London. I believe that stems from Juventud breaking London's nose with the 450 in the month prior (8 or 9 months after his previous broken nose) the Shooting Star was never banned after the Chavo injury incident (August 2004), they turned that in to a storyline (Kidman being afraid to do it after that) and used it to turn him heel on London (where he did the shooting star to London as he was strapped to a stretcher). Kidman was still using it up to his last televised victory (May 2005) Kidman was released in July 05. so a few weeks later is the Nunzio match where London uses it, then gets in trouble, and the next week he drops the cruiserweight title to Nunzio on Velocity. After that he's pretty much on a losing streak until the Kendrick team took off in mid 06. Then of course 2 years later, Evan Bourne was signed and doing the SSP from day 1.
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