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    Is the knock on George Scott for 88-89 run unfair?

    A lot of the really well regarded stuff is long after he's gone. Chi-Town Rumble was primarily him and it's not a very good show outside of Flair/Steamboat and Luger/Windham. A lot of really slow paced stuff that got way too much time like Hayes/Assassin or Reed/Sting.
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    Is the knock on George Scott for 88-89 run unfair?

    Scott was gone by late March or early April. I think he's done by the time they get to Center Stage.
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    Is the knock on George Scott for 88-89 run unfair?

    I also think his bad runs at the end of the 80s doesn't reflect on his work in the 70s or 80s. Everyone has their expiration date. Watts run in WCW doesn't effect what he did in Mid-South and the UWF. In the comic realm. Go read something Alan Moore has done the last 10-15 years. Pretty good shot it's garbage but that doesn't really take away from his really good work in the 80s and 90s.
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    Is the knock on George Scott for 88-89 run unfair?

    His WCCW run wasn't particularly good either. Let's remove the pros and cons of his thought process. He failed to understand and operate in a corporation environment. This was early into a buyout and TV people aren't going to accept tanking a rating. And again, if you watch the TV at the time, it's not like he was short term tanking things to build a bunch of young guys. If anything he was undercutting Sting who was his young gun. That match with Butch Reed at Chi-Town is a crime and he should have been fired for exposing Sting on PPV like that.
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    Is the knock on George Scott for 88-89 run unfair?

    The TV is brutally boring at the time and it's obvious he just doesn't get guys like Sting. I would say he is fairly portrayed for this time. Bix and Zellner did a breakdown of his brief run and it's just a guy that was out of touch with the times.
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    The Cancellation of Jim Cornette

    It amuses me that Danhausen won both of them over with his Cameos.
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    The aging of wrestling fans

    I more mean, it doesn't matter because almost every single promotion has good wrestling now. The idea of workrate promotion is kind of dead because everyone has workrate matches now. So if you can get good wrestling anywhere then you are going to base your choices off of things like angles, charisma of the performers, booking, etc.
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    The aging of wrestling fans

    I have a disagreement on match quality. I think up until the late 00s that match quality mattered a lot. Good matches were still a bit of a novelty at the time. But these days good wrestling is dime a dozen. You can go to the most podunk of indies and see good matches. So I say in this era it doesn't matter because almost every promotion has good wrestling in it. So now you need the side stuff to get attention from fans.
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    The aging of wrestling fans

    I think it goes a little deeper with WWE. They just run matches into the ground really quick. I couldn't imagine being a new fan and wondering why Drew McIntyre and Sheamus wrestle every single week.
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    WWE TV 03/22 - 03/28 Roman never tapped

    How's the Godfather looking these days? Lex Luger still willing to work?
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    The aging of wrestling fans

    NWA Anarchy was my sweet spot promotion for a long time but there was a 2-3 year period where I thought CWF Mid-Atlantic was the best promotion going.
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    The aging of wrestling fans

    Have you tried Powerrr at all? It's been a little lackluster inring but they do a good job with the storytelling and making you want to come back next week.
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    Comic books and Manga Thread

    I am through the telling of A New Hope which is the first 6 issues. It's interesting and has Howard Chaykin on art. It was really good. It was obvious they wrote this based on the script and not the actual movie as some deleted scenes are in there like Jabba confronting Han early on. Jabba was a real trip since he was just some weird looking guy. I am really interested to see what they do when they can do their own stuff.
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    Comic books and Manga Thread

    I decided to do something a little different with my reading. I started reading the Marvel 70s Star Wars series.
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    WWE TV 03/22 - 03/28 Roman never tapped

    That's got to be really scary considering Brad died around the same age.
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    WWE TV 03/22 - 03/28 Roman never tapped

    How do people watch this garbage? I saw one 20 second clip of Rollins and Cesaro brawling and there were so many jump cuts it gave me a headache.
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    The aging of wrestling fans

    I think a lot of Eric Bischoff's tactics like focus groups and surveys would be a good start for trying to build a viable product. But I think ultimately AEW is the best you're going to get. Grassroots support with the right guy eventually putting money behind it. I think we romantize the past too much. Yeah wrestling was big once with far less competition in the marketplace of ideas. The more I read about wrestling history the more I see that 90% of old promoters were incompetent and just benefitted from no competition. I mean the NWA struggled to put down Anne Gunkel and her podunk outlaw group in the 70s. We shit in Vince a lot and rightfully so but at this point his incompetence seems pretty par for the course for a wrestling promoter.
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    The aging of wrestling fans

    Because it's his life work. I think he knows he should walk away but no matter how much he trusts someone, they aren't going to do his tasks as well as he did. I think that's probably a big sticking point for him. He is also Vince McMahon. He doesn't watch movies or TV and he doesn't have hobbies. What's he going to do in retirement when he's used to working all the time?
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    The aging of wrestling fans

    They have actually been pretty smart about recognizing that sports rights is a bubble that could burst on them. Some of the other leagues are pretty vulnerable to that bubble bursting on them.
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    NWA Powerrr

    The piped in crowd noise is super obnoxious and makes everything sound like shit.
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    Comic books and Manga Thread

    See for me I am willing to forgive characterization and some continuity or retcons in the name of good storytelling. The better the book, the more I am willing to forgive that stuff. It more becomes an issue for me when you start breaking things or it's just obvious you don't know what you're doing. I am a fairly forgiving reader though, I think even bad runs like Chuck Austen's X-Men had redeeming qualities like Juggernaugt and squidboy. I think where I have really grown tired of Marvel and DC, moreseo Marvel, is both companies have just been absolutely allergic to changing the status quo even slightly. You get a lot less characterization now because of the decompression and writers don't stay on books long enough for a larger world to develop and new writers are never interested in continuing a previous writer's ideas. I have seen books in the 50s that were more willing to shift their status quo than Marvel and DC.
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    WWE Network... It's Here

    I think most people usually get it. Like when I was a kid and seeing people smoking in cartoons. Even as a 5 year old I think I asked my parents about Goofy chain smoking in some cartoon and they explained everyone used to smoke until they figured out it was really bad for your health. I think the issue tends to be people going in with the express purpose of finding things to be offended by so they can bitch about it on social media.
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    The aging of wrestling fans

    I think in this era storytelling has become very important. Back when RoH was big, good wrestling was still a novelty you could sell. Now, there's good wrestling everywhere. You could probably go to a podunk promotion in a barn with 20 people watching and see a ***1/2 star match. So if everyone is giving me a good match then you need to give me storytelling or something unique. Chikara when it was around is a great example. There wasn't anything in the United States like Chikara. They didn't have the best matches but if you went you almost always had a lot of fun and saw something that made you want to go back. NXT was like that the first couple of years I went to shows.
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    The aging of wrestling fans

    They have actually fallen back to about late 90s levels. They got better into the early part of last decade but things like the New 52 and Marvel's constant series reboots have eroded the audience over the last 7-8 years. There's a guy on YouTube called Comics By Perch and he does sales videos for characters over multiple series. They are super interesting because a lot of assumptions made by a lot of people for wrong. My take away though is that rebooting a series gets you a boost for number 1 and then you almost instantly go back to the previous series level minus a few more people.
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    WWE Network... It's Here

    I also think the average person is smart enough to understand if they are going back and watching something from the past that societal norms are going to be different. I also think you should just leave that stuff in there. When I was growing up, some of those differences turned into teaching moments from my parents. Just throw a disclaimer on things.
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