goodhelmet Posted August 15, 2012 Report Share Posted August 15, 2012 I gotta be honest. I've never sent on a ballot on any of the projects. I'm so appreciative of the work that goes into these sets that are so much fucking fun that I can't "ruin it" by dissecting and judging. I realize the point is to come up with a list, but by this point in it...it's taken on the role of "Holy Fuck, check out these dvd's!" and "Holy Fuck! I never knew (insert promotion here) was so great!/ "I haven't seen this stuff since I was 16...THIS IS AWESOME!" Turn in a fucking ballot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 Maybe my FAVORITE thing the AWA crowd does is when Saito's doing his little sumo thing before a match, they'll go "Ohhhhhhhh." to his foot stomp. It's awesome. http://youtu.be/FjH5RXhXsDo?t=7m45s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 I gotta be honest. I've never sent on a ballot on any of the projects. I'm so appreciative of the work that goes into these sets that are so much fucking fun that I can't "ruin it" by dissecting and judging. I realize the point is to come up with a list, but by this point in it...it's taken on the role of "Holy Fuck, check out these dvd's!" and "Holy Fuck! I never knew (insert promotion here) was so great!/ "I haven't seen this stuff since I was 16...THIS IS AWESOME!" Turn in a fucking ballot Did I mention that I'm also lazy? And, I think I will this time after reading how you keep rankings. Whenever I tried to before by disc I'd end up all jumbled up. I like the method you use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Ridge Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 In my effort to put a ballot together, I went back and rewatched disc 1. Stuff grew on me for the most part on second viewing. Anyways, match I thought would easily end up in my top 10 overall dropped a few spots on this disc alone because I found myself liking other stuff a lot more. Will be interesting to see how I view the remaining discs but I think disc 1 has the advantage of having finishes to all the matches (screwjob in Hogan/Bock withstanding) while we start to see more count out/disqualifications in future matches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 Holy Crap. Tony Atlas is the world's worst possible Jerry Blackwell replacement when Blackwell was out after the turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khawk20 Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 Holy Crap. Tony Atlas is the world's worst possible Jerry Blackwell replacement when Blackwell was out after the turn. I always looked at him more like a Greg Gagne replacement since he teamed with Brunzell so much. Does that help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 Holy Crap. Tony Atlas is the world's worst possible Jerry Blackwell replacement when Blackwell was out after the turn. I always looked at him more like a Greg Gagne replacement since he teamed with Brunzell so much. Does that help? Well, he was feuding with Adnan, but then I guess they did the Brody attack on Gagne/Brunzell, too. And no, it doesn't help, because otherwise we would have gotten the boss Blackwell/Brunzell team. EDIT: What was the payoff for Larry the Ax getting pissed off at Race re: Curt? I know Larry and Harley were a big tag team but did they feud in the 70s? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khawk20 Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 EDIT: What was the payoff for Larry the Ax getting pissed off at Race re: Curt? I know Larry and Harley were a big tag team but did they feud in the 70s? Larry did a tv interview on AWA TV after Harley beat up Curt when Curt tried to save a jobber from Race. Larry explained it as Harley asking Larry to come to Japan with him and team (that re-teaming in Japan actually happened a few years previous IIRC), reforming their team. Larry said that Race walked out on a tag match with him there and as such declared war on the Hennig family. ...and there was no payoff as Harley didn't stick around long enough for any sort of protracted feud between he and the Hennigs. Curt and Harley had the one St. Paul match that made tape JIP but that's it. Harley left around the time Heenan went to the WWF. No idea if there was a real connection or if they just didn't know how to move forward without Heenan as part of Race's team (Harley-Heenan vs. Hennigs, maybe?) ....FWIW, most old-old time AWA fans that saw Larry and Harley in the AWA as a team agree that they have mostly been forgotten by history as a "great" tag team. They were before my time so I never saw them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 I saw the promo and can't believe there was no payoff to that. What the hell, AWA? They could have done Hennigs + Whoever vs Bock/Saito/Race and it would have been awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khawk20 Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 I saw the promo and can't believe there was no payoff to that. What the hell, AWA? They could have done Hennigs + Whoever vs Bock/Saito/Race and it would have been awesome. It was abrupt enough that I wonder if it wasn't Harley's idea to leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 This card boggles my mind. I went to school in Waltham. What a weird place to run a rare New England card in 86, and then you run THAT card. 9/24/86 Waltham, MA Boris Zhukov beat Marc Fabian Scott Hall beat Black Panther Colonel DeBeers beat David Foxx Buddy Rose & Doug Somers beat Man Mountain Dean & The Machine Sherri Martel beat Despina Montagus Brian Walsh beat Eric Sparaccia Boston Bad Boys beat Bill Rossi & Foxx att: 650 Also, one of my favorite parts of 91-92 WWF is John Nord. He has a really credible, huge offense and bumps amazingly for a guy of his size. Plus he's so much smarter a wrestler than the prototype in Brody when it comes to knowing when to give and how to react and what not. I don't know WHEN he got good though. He's not on the set once though. Was he just no good at this point of his career or what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Not to double post AGAIN, but I was looking through the December 9 85 WON and Dave said that a match between Gordy/Hayes and the Roadies from "four or five weeks ago on ESPN" was excellent and he wanted a copy. Any idea what match that is? Is it crap? Then he went on to say: "Also, after the last set of tapes from Japan, I've become a big fan of the road Warriors. I give them credit. They used to stink, then they improved and were average, then good, and now they're damn good. There(sic) matches in Japan even though short, were all action filled and with Choshu & Yastu and Tsuruta & Tenryu and even Tsuruta & Ishikawa, they had great ones. Their Chicago match with the Freebirds was almost as good as these bouts, although the bout they lost to Regal & Farvin wasn't too hot." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khawk20 Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Good chance that Dave was looking for their Super Clash match from 9/28 in Chicago. That was the only Roadies-Birds match that aired on regular TV as far as I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 I'm still reading these. What the hell was Verne doing running shows in Anchorage? That had to be crazy travel for everyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 I talked about that some in my Blackwell stuff. Verne fucked himself with that expansion project Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Can't remember what I was watching or listening to now -- think it might have been an interview with Gary Michael Capetta -- but someone was saying that Verne had never even seen his own TV show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 YES The very, very best thing about the AWA Crowds is when they get all excited for Saito's Sumo pre-match ritual, and guess what? They do it for Kendo Nagasaki too. In general, I hate these cheating, bullying face-loving jerks, but they almost redeem themselves solely with this. Also, I love Billy Robinson as Kamala's mouthpiece. Just saying. "Koo-Mala." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 This card boggles my mind. I went to school in Waltham. What a weird place to run a rare New England card in 86, and then you run THAT card. 9/24/86 Waltham, MA Boris Zhukov beat Marc Fabian Awesome. Boston Bad Boys beat Bill Rossi & FoxxAnyone know who the non-Tony Rumble "Boston Bad Boy" would be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 Random question but did Dick the Bruiser turn up at all when you were watching the footage for the AWA set. The Crusher is around, so where is Dick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 Short answer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Wrestli..._(Indianapolis) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 Yeah but my understanding is that Dick the Bruiser would show up on AWA TV a lot and was tag champ for a decent run and actually AWA World Champ once too in 1966. Had the working agreement long gone by the 80s? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 Verne didn't oppose him or run his towns at all and I think Bruiser may have come in here or there for appearances in the very early 80's though I may be wrong. I myself think if Verne had taken his territory and then carved out the dead Detroit office he may have been able to survive longer. But then it is Verne so probably not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khawk20 Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 Verne didn't oppose him or run his towns at all and I think Bruiser may have come in here or there for appearances in the very early 80's though I may be wrong. I myself think if Verne had taken his territory and then carved out the dead Detroit office he may have been able to survive longer. But then it is Verne so probably not Bruiser appeared on AWA cards in Chicago right through Super Clash I in 1985 (not all of them, but a lot of them), as did other WWA guys, usually in the lower half of the card. Bruiser put over Jerry Blackwell in the middle of 1980 and that was seen by the Chicago guys as a major indicator that Blackwell was going to be a big player in the AWA. That might have happened on the card where Verne regained the title from Bockwinkel in July of 1980, I can't remember for sure. Bruiser and Vachon teamed up in St. Paul to challenge the Sheiks for the tag title in 1983, early in their reign. Only the last few minutes are available on video, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted September 6, 2012 Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 Why the hell were so many of those 74-75 shows missing the AWA champ? Where the hell was Verne? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted September 6, 2012 Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 Who were the Tokyo Bullets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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