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In this episode of the Place to Be Podcast, Justin, Scott and Kelly Nelson are kicking off the Thanksgiving week festivities and are taking a look at the 11/24/87 Madison Square Garden house show!

 

The boys discuss Strike Force winning the Tag Team Titles, Ultimate Warrior's MSG debut, a red hot classic between the Jumping Bomb Angels and Glamour Girls, Paul Orndorff's final Garden match, a quality Killer Bees win, another hot title match between Randy Savage and Honky Tonk Man, the return of Jake Roberts, the Hart Foundation's Tag Title rematch, the arrivals of Ted DiBiase and Bam Bam Bigelow and more, including end of show awards!

 

So fire up this action-packed episode and join Scott, Justin & Kelly as it’s time for another edition of the PTB Podcast!

 

http://placetobenation.com/place-to-be-podcast-episode-481-wwf-house-show-madison-square-garden-112487/

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The Golden Girls gags from seven(!?) years ago are still pretty funny even in retrospect, due to how the Glamour Girls were being presented.

 

Recently on another board someone went off on how bad it was that Alexa Bliss was giving an ageist promo on the 38-year old Mickie James! Not too far off from making age jokes at veterans expense when it seems thats what the Fed probably wanted you to think when you saw Martin and Kais act as a team.

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In this episode of the Place to Be Podcast, Justin, Scott and John D'Amato are wrapping up Thanksgiving dinner and settling in on the couch to talk some Survivor Series 1987!

 

The boys discuss Justin's weekend pizza issues, the concept of Survivor Series and causing trouble for Jim Crockett, a quick night for Jim Duggan and Harley Race, Honky Tonk Man's chicken shit escape, another strong showing for Velvet McIntyre, hot Jumping Bomb Angel action, the end of the road for Fabulous Moolah, the lack of direction for the Rougeau Brothers, a weak night for Strike Force, the shocking finish to the tag team showcase, a great outing for Bam Bam Bigelow, a big spot for Rick Rude, a huge win for Andre the Giant and more, including end of show awards!

 

So fire up this action-packed episode and join Scott, Justin & John as it’s tite for another edition of the PTB Podcast!

 

http://placetobenation.com/place-to-be-podcast-episode-482-survivor-series-1987/

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In this episode of the Place to Be Podcast, Justin, Scott and Chad Campbell are inside the Vintage Vault and ready to wrap Thanksgiving week in the WWF as they dive into the 11/28/87 Saturday Night's Main Event!

 

The boys discuss another customer service fiasco, a shitty opener between George Steele and Danny Davis, a great dream match battle between Randy Savage and Bret Hart, a huge WrestleMania 2 rematch, Andre the Giant making his presence known, a big showing for Bam Bam Bigelow and much more, including end of show awards!

 

So fire up this action-packed episode and join Scott, Justin and Chad as it’s time for another edition of the PTB Podcast!

 

http://placetobenation.com/place-to-be-podcast-episode-483-saturday-nights-main-event-xii-11-28-87/

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In this episode of the Place to Be Podcast, Justin, Scott and Pete Schirmacher are wrapping up the holiday season in New York City by taking a look at the 12/26/87 Madison Square Garden house show!

 

The boys discuss the culmination of PTBN GWWE and also announce the next reader participation stretch project that will be kicking off soon and then talk about a busy night in the WWF, the 1987 Slammys, a plodding opener, the aimless Rougeaus, the MSG debut of Jim Duggan, another dismal showing for Rockin' Robin, a hot brawl between Greg Valentine and Brutus Beefcake, the shaky start for Rick Rude, a rare almost kind of average Dino Bravo match, a sadly disappointing Islanders match, MIDGET MANIA~!, another battle between Randy Savage and Honky Tonk Man and more, including end of show awards!

 

So fire up this action-packed episode and join Scott, Justin & Pete as it’s time for another edition of the PTB Podcast!

 

http://placetobenation.com/place-to-be-podcast-episode-484-wwf-house-show-madison-square-garden-12-26-87/

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In this episode of the Place to Be Podcast, Justin, Scott and Peter Winson are inside the Vintage Vault and ready to kick off 1988 with a bang by looking at the 1/2/88 Saturday Night's Main Event!

 

The boys discuss a solid title defense for Strike Force, a plodding Jake Roberts/Sika bout, the big Hulk Hogan/King Kong Bundy, a win for Greg Valentine to get back on track and much more, including end of show awards!

 

So fire up this action-packed episode and join Scott, Justin and Peter as it’s time for another edition of the PTB Podcast!

 

http://placetobenation.com/place-to-be-podcast-episode-485-saturday-nights-main-event-xii-1-2-88/

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In this episode of the Place to Be Podcast, Justin, Scott and John D'Amato are bundled up in Canada and ready to go prime time to talk some Royal Rumble 1988!

 

The boys discuss JT and John's epic trip to New Orleans for WrestleMania weekend, a slightly disappointing opener between Ricky Steamboat and Rick Rude, Vince McMahon stepping in for Gorilla Monsoon, Dino Bravo breaking the weightlifting record, another hot women's tag team title match, the epic contract signing between Hulk Hogan and Andre the Giant, Jim Duggan winning the inaugural Royal Rumble, a nice showing for One Man Gang, an under the radar appearance for Ultimate Warrior, a never-ending final tag match and more, including end of show awards!

 

So fire up this action-packed episode and join Scott, Justin & John as it’s time for another edition of the PTB Podcast!

 

http://placetobenation.com/place-to-be-podcast-episode-486-royal-rumble-1988/

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In this episode of the Place to Be Podcast, Justin, Scott and Pete Schirmacher are battling the brutal NYC winter by taking a look at the 1/25/88 Madison Square Garden house show!

 

The boys discuss Marc Clair vs. Graham Cawthon, the passing of Bruno Sammartino, a plodding opener to the year, Vince McMahon’s commentary, the continued deterioration of Junkyard Dog, one of the most aimless MSG matches ever, a feisty power match between Don Muraco and One Man Gang, a red hot main event tag match, some more insane Harley Race bumping, a shitbag Hillbilly Jim/Ron Bass match, the ongoing issue between the Bulldogs and Islanders and more, including end of show awards!

 

So fire up this action-packed episode and join Scott, Justin & Pete as it’s time for another edition of the PTB Podcast!

 

http://placetobenation.com/place-to-be-podcast-episode-487-wwf-house-show-madison-square-garden-1-25-88/

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In this episode of the Place to Be Podcast, Justin, Scott and Nick Duke are inside the Vintage Vault and ready to make television history with a look at the 2/5/88 Main Event!

 

The boys discuss Nick's nipple and becoming a diehard Hulk Hogan fan, the final showdown between Randy Savage and Honky Tonk Man, the arrival of Peggy Sue, the build to Hogan/Andre II, an amazing all time classic storyline, Andre's new motivations, WWF finally changing its World Champion, an iconic visual and much more, including end of show awards!

 

So fire up this action-packed episode and join Scott, Justin and Nick as it’s time for another edition of the PTB Podcast!

 

http://placetobenation.com/place-to-be-podcast-episode-488-the-main-event-2-5-88/

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In this episode of the Place to Be Podcast, Justin, Scott and Tim Slomka are slogging through a long winter in the city with a look at the 2/22/88 Madison Square Garden house show!

 

The boys discuss a bizarre night for Harley Race, an ugly Steele/Sika match, a feisty Ken Patera appearance, a weird loss for Smash, a red hot pop for Jake Roberts, a tough night for Lord Alfred, a fun battle between Ted DiBiase and Bam Bam Bigelow, a decent Duggan/Bass brawl, a unique tag team bout and more, including end of show awards!

 

So fire up this action-packed episode and join Scott, Justin & Tim as it’s time for another edition of the PTB Podcast!

 

http://placetobenation.com/place-to-be-podcast-episode-489-wwf-house-show-madison-square-garden-2-22-88/

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In this episode of the Place to Be Podcast, Justin, Scott and Tim Slomka are slogging through a long winter in the city with a look at the 2/22/88 Madison Square Garden house show![/size]

 

The boys discuss a bizarre night for Harley Race, an ugly Steele/Sika match, a feisty Ken Patera appearance, a weird loss for Smash, a red hot pop for Jake Roberts, a tough night for Lord Alfred, a fun battle between Ted DiBiase and Bam Bam Bigelow, a decent Duggan/Bass brawl, a unique tag team bout and more, including end of show awards![/size]

 

So fire up this action-packed episode and join Scott, Justin & Tim as it’s time for another edition of the PTB Podcast![/size]

 

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I attended this card. This is where I believe the burial of Bigelow began. Also, my brother and I were shocked to see Bundy with hair. It would be his final match for several years. When leaving the garden that night, almost the entire crowd was walking out screaming Hooooo!!!!! I mean Duggan was over big time. It was a fun card and your podcast brought back memories of that evening
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In this episode of the Place to Be Podcast, Justin, Scott and Tim Slomka are slogging through a long winter in the city with a look at the 2/22/88 Madison Square Garden house show![/size]

 

The boys discuss a bizarre night for Harley Race, an ugly Steele/Sika match, a feisty Ken Patera appearance, a weird loss for Smash, a red hot pop for Jake Roberts, a tough night for Lord Alfred, a fun battle between Ted DiBiase and Bam Bam Bigelow, a decent Duggan/Bass brawl, a unique tag team bout and more, including end of show awards![/size]

 

So fire up this action-packed episode and join Scott, Justin & Tim as it’s time for another edition of the PTB Podcast![/size]

 

 

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While the Garden was only half full that night, I’m not sure if there was crowd sweetening. I was there and the crowd went apeshit throughout the entire Duggan-Bass match. The crowd chanted ho throughout the entire match and Duggan was the most over act on the card. Like I said earlier, the crowd exiting the Garden chanted ho in unison. Best match Bass had in his entire WWF run. They should have had Duggan go over. Bass was going nowhere
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I don't know why you guys keep calling the Warrior tag the main event. It definitely wasn't. Dibiase-Bigelow was the main and promoted as such. Originally this would have been a WWF title match, but it was decided to cut Dibiase's crooked reign much shorter than intended due to low houses, which this half full MSG would support.

 

At the time Warrior, Muraco and Reed were all doing pretty much nothing and Bundy had been gone for a few months (his last SNME aired weeks after it was shot).

 

Good podcast besides that nitpick, though to me this card is the very definition of meh. I've seen a few different six man cage tags and sadly they aren't quite as good as you might hope.

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I don't know why you guys keep calling the Warrior tag the main event. It definitely wasn't. Dibiase-Bigelow was the main and promoted as such. Originally this would have been a WWF title match, but it was decided to cut Dibiase's crooked reign much shorter than intended due to low houses, which this half full MSG would support.

 

At the time Warrior, Muraco and Reed were all doing pretty much nothing and Bundy had been gone for a few months (his last SNME aired weeks after it was shot).

 

Good podcast besides that nitpick, though to me this card is the very definition of meh. I've seen a few different six man cage tags and sadly they aren't quite as good as you might hope.

You make a great point. When I attended MSG shows between 83-94, the last match wasn’t always the main event
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In this episode of the Place to Be Podcast, Justin, Scott and Peter Winson are inside the Vintage Vault and making the final stop on the Road to WrestleMania with a look at the 3/12/88 Saturday Night's Main Event!

 

The boys discuss a busy night for the WWF, the final blowoff of the Dream Team, a stupid finish, a fun, aggressive Hogan/Race brawl, Harley's rough injury, Hogan's newfound aggression, a big win for Ted DiBiase, the Golden Girls, a quality TV win for the Islanders, a feisty Ken Patera match and much more, including end of show awards!

 

So fire up this action-packed episode and join Scott, Justin and Peter as it’s time for another edition of the PTB Podcast!

 

http://placetobenation.com/place-to-be-podcast-episode-490-saturday-nights-main-event-xii-3-12-88/

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In this episode of the Place to Be Podcast, Justin and Scott are joined by Kelly Nelson, Pete Schirmacher and John D’Amato to break down the Road to WrestleMania IV.

 

Led by Professor Nelson, the boys discuss WWF’s history of fictional tournaments, tag team tournaments and stars of the 1970s, babyface Larry Zbyszko, the PTBN GWWE Tag Team project, the unforgettable Sylvano Souza, Garea & Goulet and tournaments from various territories. Then the panel talks about some WrestleMania IV rebooking options, including the original released bracket, other options for the brackets, non tournament matches that could have been cut, what the show would look like without a tournament and so much more!

 

So fire up this action-packed episode and join Scott, Justin and the crew as it’s time for another edition of the PTB Podcast!

 

http://placetobenation.com/place-to-be-podcast-episode-491-the-road-to-wrestlemania-iv/

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In this episode of the Place to Be Podcast, Justin, Scott and John D'Amato are all decked out and headed to the casino as it is time to discuss the biggest show of 1988: WrestleMania IV!

 

The boys discuss the WWF vs. NWA kerfuffle, a whiny night for Bret Hart, Ted DiBiase's important night, Andre the Giant's motivations, Ricky Steamboat's farewell, a disappointing showing for Bam Bam Bigelow, another poor showing for Rick Rude, Ultimate Warrior's WrestleMania debut, the fading allure of Hogan vs. Andre, a blown opportunity for Brutus Beefcake, a massive pop for Demolition, Randy Savage's crowning moment and more, including end of show awards!

 

So fire up this action-packed episode and join Scott, Justin & John as it’s time for another edition of the PTB Podcast!

 

http://placetobenation.com/place-to-be-podcast-episode-492-wrestlemania-iv/

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A few quick thoughts on the WM IV main event, having rewatched it a few days before the listen. This is actually the Million Dollar Dream's debut, prior to this Dibiase tried a sharpshooter, russian leg sweep into a pin, spinning toehold and 2nd rope back elbow as squash finishers. Not called as such. Also Savage tries to reach the ropes while in the Dream but Andre pulls the ropes and that's when Hogan finally has enough and uses the chair. All of this happens way too fast for Jesse and Gorilla to really call it, which is odd, super fast Watts style ten things happening finishes weren't a WWF thing and it's not as if going 3:34 would have been much different but the story was lost in the speed at the end.

 

Also with the Hogan thing, I think Savage is on record (and I agree) as having said that he just wanted Hogan to leave the ring at some point in his celebration so to give him and Liz a moment on there on, begging him to do so in ring and Hogan just pretending to ignore him. I can't speak for other fans, but that's what I have a problem with.

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In this episode of the Place to Be Podcast, Justin, Scott and Kelly Nelson are digging through the WrestleMania IV fallout with a look at the 4/25/88 Madison Square Garden house show!

The boys discuss some interesting commentary about Steve Lombardi, arm wrestling action, a big showcase for Bret Hart, another rough finish between Bam Bam Bigelow and One Man Gang, Randy Savage’s first MSG WWF Title defense and some questionable booking, a rare win for Barry Horowitz, another blasé showing for Sensational Sherri, a fun rematch between Ultimate Warrior and Hercules, a Demolition title defense and more, including end of show awards!

So fire up this action-packed episode and join Scott, Justin & Kelly as it’s time for another edition of the PTB Podcast!

http://placetobenation.com/place-to-be-podcast-episode-493-wwf-house-show-madison-square-garden-4-25-88/

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