Scarlet-Left Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 Come on? Surely not such a decent photo for Hardy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted April 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 I liked him looking up at his number with longing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 Jeff Hardy. He sure knows how to fall from high places. Did I mention I blame the Hardyz, along with Edge, for popularizing awkward looking indy-like moves in the WWE ? At least the best of the three will place the highest. Still, Jeff Hardy. Hardly a very good much less a great worker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodear Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 Bossman lives on? !!!! Super excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 Fiera can't be long for the world, though. He hasn't already gone, right? Sangre Chicana too, at this rate. And Black Terry. The lucha guys are doomed save for the top notch ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Childs Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 Navarro takes me down to 94. He moved up exactly one spot from 2006 despite doing a lot of great work in the interim. But given the obscurity of IWRG, that's not too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Childs Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 Fiera can't be long for the world, though. He hasn't already gone, right? Sangre Chicana too, at this rate. And Black Terry. The lucha guys are doomed save for the top notch ones. I think Sangre Chicana will hold on longer because of his prominence on the DVDVR set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anarchistxx Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 A little surprised to see I ranked TAKA so high. One of those oversights where you forget to move him around. To be fair I've seen and loved a ton of his stuff, but for someone ranked at my #27 he sure doesn't have a treasure trove of incredible matches or memorable shit. To be fair K-Dojo had some fantastic stuff and his AJPW run was really fun and solid for the most part - one match he had with Dick Togo from 2005/2006 was superb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodear Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 Eventually all are doomed. My list of 80s WWF midcarders isn't exactly living high on the hog. WIll's Memphis soldiers are all in their graves other than Jerry. I can't see any one grouping to be super highly represented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 Eventually all are doomed. My list of 80s WWF midcarders isn't exactly living high on the hog. WIll's Memphis soldiers are all in their graves other than Jerry. I can't see any one grouping to be super highly represented. Dundee lives on, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Childs Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 Eventually all are doomed. My list of 80s WWF midcarders isn't exactly living high on the hog. WIll's Memphis soldiers are all in their graves other than Jerry. I can't see any one grouping to be super highly represented. Dundee ain't dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 The original nugget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted April 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 That's a run of indie guys. Next indie guy isn't till 159. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlet-Left Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 Aries... another one bites the dust! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodear Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 Christ okay, you pedants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 Jeff Hardy. He sure knows how to fall from high places. Did I mention I blame the Hardyz, along with Edge, for popularizing awkward looking indy-like moves in the WWE ? At least the best of the three will place the highest. Still, Jeff Hardy. Hardly a very good much less a great worker. We could form a great grumpy old man tag-team El-P. Me in a top hat, you in a Napolean outfit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anarchistxx Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 Did I mention I blame the Hardyz, along with Edge, for popularizing awkward looking indy-like moves in the WWE ? Seems a strange criticism. Jeff doesn't exactly have an expansive move set. He brought the crazy ladder and table stunts maybe, but they weren't exactly confined to 90s indie wrestling, unless you class ECW as an independent. Even then, Shawn Michaels was diving off ladders a few years earlier, if arguably a little more smartly. It has been the last few years if anything where the indie influence has crept into WWE, both in the move sets and the wrestling style. I voted for Jeff Hardy for similar reasons as Matt Sydal. The prototypical babyface loved by all demographics in the audience. Managed to carry this great aura and presence about him despite rarely cutting promos, and never cutting good promos. He gave his matches a reckless, exciting, authentic feel - he did all the flips and flops and they actually seemed high risk because he seemed like a wild "fuck it, I'll see what happens" daredevil rather than a trained gymnast. I still love those early ladder and TLC matches - what they lack in psychology they make up for in energy, carnage and fun, and they also have six characters in them who all have separate personalities, styles and identities rather than the dozens of cookie cutter overacting guys that WWE churns out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodear Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 Jeff had a good ability to tie into his audience and was incredibly authentic as a dirt bike jumping, poetry writing, face painting drug addict. No one else could have pulled that shit off and still been over. For as tripped out as he was, I totally bought that Jeff would walk into the grocery store and be exactly the thing you saw on television. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Childs Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 Christ okay, you pedants. Just because we're all doomed doesn't mean you've got to go rushing folks across the river. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlet-Left Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 People from my top fifty who've dropped: 7. Kana 16. Terry Taylor 18. Buddy Landell 22. Sasha Banks 24. Ron Simmons 25. Steve Keirn 27. Io Shirai 29. Alberto Del Rio 33. Mariko Yoshida 40. Alex Shelley 44. Austin Aries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 Aries over Owens is a little surprising given they are both active and Owens is riding some hot feuds while Aries just got out of TNA. I mean as close as they are it is more or less a wash, but I am little surprised Owens didn't finish comfortably ahead of Aries right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 Jeff had a good ability to tie into his audience and was incredibly authentic as a dirt bike jumping, poetry writing, face painting drug addict. No one else could have pulled that shit off and still been over. For as tripped out as he was, I totally bought that Jeff would walk into the grocery store and be exactly the thing you saw on television. Just absolutely HATE the setting up for the stunt stuff. The worst. Hate it, hate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 Jeff Hardy. He sure knows how to fall from high places. Did I mention I blame the Hardyz, along with Edge, for popularizing awkward looking indy-like moves in the WWE ? At least the best of the three will place the highest. Still, Jeff Hardy. Hardly a very good much less a great worker. We could form a great grumpy old man tag-team El-P. Me in a top hat, you in a Napolean outfit. "The Roaring Twenties." Apparently you can feud with Childs and myself as "You Maryland Pedants." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 Jeff Hardy. He sure knows how to fall from high places. Did I mention I blame the Hardyz, along with Edge, for popularizing awkward looking indy-like moves in the WWE ? At least the best of the three will place the highest. Still, Jeff Hardy. Hardly a very good much less a great worker. We could form a great grumpy old man tag-team El-P. Me in a top hat, you in a Napolean outfit. "The Roaring Twenties." Apparently you can feud with Childs and myself as "You Maryland Pedants." That could be the finisher, a double-team hamstring snap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anarchistxx Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 Kevin Owens - absolute garbage. The prime candidate of someone who seems like he is playing at being a wrestler. Nothing seems natural. His matches are badly structured, he throws the bombs around at the finish and does the shocked "can't believe that didn't beat him" expression through all the near falls, but he can't build a match for shit. Then there is his terrible look. He is a man that validates Vince McMahon's prejudice against indie wrestlers who only appeal to the smart fans and can't draw a dime. His promos are mediocre. He has no real natural charisma, his movement is all wrong. A solid midcard hand at best and doesn't belong on a list like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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