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83 Weeks with Eric Bischoff

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It's funny how some shows work depending on the circumstances you're in. I normally avoid the watch along shows because I'm not about to sit in front of the TV and watch something as I listen on my phone. But sometimes they work during a drive. For in stance, the latest Bischoff show is a watch along of the first Thunder. This past weekend I was on call for work and I had to drive an hour from home at 6:45 pm Saturday night to handle an emergency and then drive an hour back home. The Thunder show was exactly what I needed for my drive. I couldn't imagine just listening to it while relaxing at home, but it worked for the drive.

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On 1/6/2020 at 8:57 PM, Migs said:

I think the ultimate problem is that he doesn't get into enough depth. So once he's covered a couple of shows from an era, he's basically mined his subject for all their thoughts on the matter. From an artistic perspective, he should probably do six months worth of shows with a guest and move on.

That's a good point.  One thing I have found from all of Conrad's podcasts is that eventually, the same stories will end up being told by the same person three or four times. If you're a regular listener, you end up rolling your eyes and asking why they are telling that story AGAIN.

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Once I went Arn with Ep 1, I couldn't go back to the others. He is a straight shooter. His road stories and random details are new, and Conrad isn't working his gimmick.

 

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Arn's is by far the best one going right now. Every now and then, you do still get glimpses of him attempting to talk kayfabe though. It doesn't ever dertract from the show, and I honestly believe it's just his natural inclination to go there. But I noticed it again in the TV Title episode with him talking about what a fight it was to win the belt from Wahoo, as if it were an actual contest.

Bischoff's show has been strictly background noise for me for a long time - with the TNA episode being the last one I found enjoyable. There was the start of a thought-provoking discussion about long-term storytelling versus short-term angles on the latest Bret episode (I believe), but neither Eric nor Conrad dove deep enough into it to make it as interesting as it could have been. Unfortunate that this show has become so weak after several strong episodes earlier on.

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Probably my biggest issue with Conrad is he's just not that inquisitive of a person, which often hampers his ability to guide a compelling interview/discussion. There have been so many times on the Prichard podcast where Bruce tells an intriguing story and Conrad practically no-sells it and promptly moves on to his next talking point. It's like if there's not a dick joke or a Vince/Pat/Cornette impression to be made, Conrad can't or won't capitalize on it. I compare that to someone like Marc Maron, who is so good at fleshing out a discussion with a guest that I find myself listening to and enjoying episodes where I don't even really have an interest in the guest.

The Meltzer bashing is also beyond tired. Don't like the guy? Fine. Then stop basing almost all of your "research" on what he and Keller wrote. I would be OK hearing legitimate gripes about them, but at least in Prichard's case, he almost never veers from the "Fuck Meltzer" shtick. Hell, there have been many instances where Prichard pushes back on something Dave wrote and in explaining why Dave was wrong, Prichard basically ends up agreeing with him. 

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1 hour ago, Afro Steel said:

The Meltzer bashing is also beyond tired. Don't like the guy? Fine. Then stop basing almost all of your "research" on what he and Keller wrote. I would be OK hearing legitimate gripes about them, but at least in Prichard's case, he almost never veers from the "Fuck Meltzer" shtick. Hell, there have been many instances where Prichard pushes back on something Dave wrote and in explaining why Dave was wrong, Prichard basically ends up agreeing with him. 

That's actually one of the things I like about Bischoff.  When he freaks out about Meltzer (which he frequently does) he usually at least specifies exactly what Meltzer said that was inaccurate and gives his side of the story. And in Bischoff's case, I think a lot of his problems with Meltzer don't actually have anything to do with Dave Meltzer himself.  Bischoff seemed more frustrated about the fact that certain executives within the Turner organization were reading stuff in the Observer and forming opinions based on what they read, without even bothering to check with Bischoff regarding the veracity of the story in question.  I know Bischoff was also extremely frustrated about people within WCW leaking information or acting as a "source" to Dave Meltzer as a means of furthering their own political agenda.  When you think about it, neither of those problems that Bischoff had are actually Dave's fault.

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On 1/22/2020 at 5:48 PM, Afro Steel said:

Probably my biggest issue with Conrad is he's just not that inquisitive of a person, which often hampers his ability to guide a compelling interview/discussion. There have been so many times on the Prichard podcast where Bruce tells an intriguing story and Conrad practically no-sells it and promptly moves on to his next talking point. It's like if there's not a dick joke or a Vince/Pat/Cornette impression to be made, Conrad can't or won't capitalize on it. I compare that to someone like Marc Maron, who is so good at fleshing out a discussion with a guest that I find myself listening to and enjoying episodes where I don't even really have an interest in the guest.

The Meltzer bashing is also beyond tired. Don't like the guy? Fine. Then stop basing almost all of your "research" on what he and Keller wrote. I would be OK hearing legitimate gripes about them, but at least in Prichard's case, he almost never veers from the "Fuck Meltzer" shtick. Hell, there have been many instances where Prichard pushes back on something Dave wrote and in explaining why Dave was wrong, Prichard basically ends up agreeing with him. 

I'd put it down to Conrad being a very busy man these days. I get the impression he's pushing Bischoff and especially Ross along in recent episodes, hoping to finish up asap.

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