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9 hours ago, kas said:

I love Kingston

 

That is a(nother) great Kingston promo.

From 1:00 to 1:03 in that video, they show a letter from Japan. 

I'm at least 85% sure that the "Thank you for comming to Japan. Please come back" was from when Kingston, Fire Ant, and Green Ant came to Osaka pro in September of 2011. The Kenji who signed it is presumably my very good friend the Osaka Pro super-fan, and Keigo is presumably Keigo Yoshino, Osaka Pro referee and announcer who was also in charge of brining in and taking care of foreign talent. If so, I believe I had a small hand in making that (I was sometimes asked to help with/proofread English language stuff. Me: You spelled "coming" wrong. Them: OK). Oh boy did we ever love Eddie Kingston. A whole bunch of Chikara guys came over in October 2010 and they were so obviously delighted to be there that heels often tossed us a nod and a wink when they were heeling it up. Not Eddie. He never cracked a smile. We booed him like crazy, relentlessly. He frequently teamed up with my good friend Kuuga, and Kenji and Kae and I would scream at them and they would yell at us and flip us off. 

"Please come back" was meant with 100% sincerity, if indeed that was my friend Kenji who signed it. It warms my heart to see that in the video and imagine it still has some meaning for Kingston.

I can't find any pics from that tour at the moment, but I do have some from the 2010 Chikara tour, specifically the Haloween party/show.

 

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Kae (the goat), Dasher (who is working AEW this week!) and Kenji

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Stigma, me, and Vin (UnStable)

EDIT: I just got confirmation (from Kae) that it was definitely us who wrote that letter. She remembers him being moved when they gave it to him. Also, that's my boy Mihara that Kingston is suplexing in the Japanese magazine at 1:00!

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That Owen thing is awesome. Funny how Dark Side of the Ring has had some actual repercussions IRL, because you know this doesn't happen without the documentary. That's when Martha reconciled with the fact pro-wrestling fans did sincerely love Owen and that was a big part of his life. Considering the shit she was thrown at for years thanks to the wonderful propaganda by WWE to make her appear as the villain, while she has actually done everything right that you can think of, it's pretty damn awesome to see something like this happen (another one that just would not even be imaginable a few years back). Owen was always one of my very favorites back then, so this will be pretty special.

That Kingston "promo" is something else too. Amazing that this is your letter @gordi, so cool ! The Kingston story is pretty insane. And it sums up pretty much everything right about AEW and why it was needed for the pro-wrestling landscape. A guy like Kingston would never have been given a look by WWE, ever. And if he had, just picture him being jobbed out in humiliating fashion in NYC, because that's how things go. Instead, the guy is living his best life way past the point of his career where he thought even a fraction of this could ever happen (hell, he was basically done). Apparently the Mox/Kingston vs Archer &Suzuki match is closing Arthur Ashes. So you know what that mean, pun intended. This is going to be one for the ages, people.

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On 9/17/2021 at 9:13 PM, gordi said:

He cornered a flight attendant and forced her, against her will, to touch his penis. That is flat out sexual assault.

 

What is the proper response to that?

If true, he probably should have been fired and never employed by WWE again.  But we know that didn't happen at all.....seems they reached a quiet settlement and Flair continued to be employed and featured on television

This will be my last word in this thread on this topic since I was gonna let it breathe and let it go but I see multiple people taking shots at me and I take offense.  For what exactly?  What did I say that was so bad?  If you think I'm an idiot that's fine, but there's a decade of me posting here that would indicate that I'm neither an idiot (mileage might vary) nor someone looking to make hot takes for hot takes sake as someone seemed to suggest.  I also didn't know my "gimmick" was "railing against cancel culture" but whatever is clever as the kids say

I'm not defending Flair's behavior.  But it's very old news.  I just find it ridiculous that everyone all of a sudden freaks out about an almost 20 yr old incident, one of multiple involving Ric Flair, when all the stories about him have been around for decades.  This one in particular, and multiple ones on airplanes.  I know it might sound like I'm defending him, but I'm really not.  I just hate this bullshit revisionist culture developing where we retcon outrage.  If you want to cancel Ric over this, whatever, have at it. 

Honestly, you might as well just stop being a fan of any old school rasslin if that's the way you feel.  And you definitely should never watch WWF/WWE.  But nobody likes to hear that argument either, so I guess the only way to conform is to either shut the fuck up or pretend to be outraged to get along?

And you can laugh at me all you want and say I'm making a false equivalency, but there's some seriously dark bad shit happening in our world right now.   Tons of it.   Maybe I just don't have the energy to be outraged about an old Ric Flair story, ya know?

I really didn't want to shit up the AEW thread with more of this.  Can it be moved to the Ric Flair thread or something?  If anyone wants to argue with me or tell me what a jerk I am please take it private.  Thanks.

............................................................................

Y'all will probably shit on me now for following that with this......but the Martha Hart/Owen Cup news legit brought a tear to my eye. 

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I'm somewhat surprised Chris Hero hasn't found his way to AEW either as talent or agent/coach, considering how much of the company is full of and influenced by the first and second generation of the 2000s indie boom. 

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I would submit to @cm funk that folks have been treating you the way they have because you have been very dismissive of folks saying they were victims of sexual assault. You seem to think it's ludicrous that Flair would force an unwilling participant to touch his junk when the man's own book has stories of him tapping women on the head with it.

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18 hours ago, cm funk said:

1)  I also didn't know my "gimmick" was "railing against cancel culture" but whatever is clever as the kids say

2)  If you want to cancel Ric over this, whatever, have at it. 

 

:lol:

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2 hours ago, Coffey said:

Gordi, that jacket is sick!

Thank you! It's one of my prize possessions. None other than Tiger Hattori and Jumbo's son Yuji Tsuruta helped me to order one in my size, back in 2013.

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On the most recent edition of Dark, Taz said he should have had Wardlow in Team Taz instead of Brian Cage, which makes sense since they're feuding. But then Excalibur said "A lot of buyer's remorse on Brian Cage." That seems to suggest that Cage is in the doghouse at the moment.

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