KawadaSmile Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 14 minutes ago, El-P said: After working in a such talent-oriented company, I have no idea how anyone could bear the WWE toxic cultish corporate environment though. Cody has been on record saying he doesn't want to wrestle a single day past his 40s. He is 36, so it's just a matter of who can give him more money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkdoc Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 OK, maybe this wasn’t a work after all…people have pointed out they likely wouldn’t use a charity Twitter account for kayfabe He’s a big enough name now that i could even see him picking up a token win over Roman or Brock before they get bored or pissed at him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 19 minutes ago, KawadaSmile said: Cody has been on record saying he doesn't want to wrestle a single day past his 40s. Since when do we actually believe what pro-wrestler say ? It was going so well for Cody. And then he got the neck tattoo. And then Omega & the Bucks finally got pushed to the top as they should have and the company grew more than when Cody was seen as the guy. And then the baby gender reveal and the Ogogo promo. And then while it was all about CM Punk & Danielson & Adam Cole, Cody was fighting his own audience with semi-shoot promos about "not turning heel". In the end, something had to give, especially if he wanted more money than TK was willing to give him considering his current status on the roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 34 minutes ago, El-P said: Since when do we actually believe what pro-wrestler say ? While I see him doing one off appearances, he just doesn't seem like a guy who's into wrestling anymore, and some of it has to do with what you mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Jackson Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 It makes sense if he is able to get top guy money and a top guy spot out of this, since that is basically why he left in the first place. He couldn't get that from WWE in 2016, and this is probably his last best chance. WWE would be dumb not to treat his comeback like a huge deal if they care anything about being relevant in 2022, but this is WWE in 2022, so seems like there is a better chance he'll be an afterthought by the end of the year. Make ridiculous money and then either retire or go back to AEW in a few years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 7 minutes ago, Ricky Jackson said: Make ridiculous money and then either retire or go back to AEW in a few years The heel reactions he would get then... Especially if he goes "Well, I've got a new contract, I can challenge for the World Title now", Mr. Liar style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Ewiak Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 I don't think this is that surprising, if Tony taking more control of the booking, etc. is true. If you're the son of Dusty, would you rather be told 'no' by Vince McMahon or by some punk rich kid who in your mind, would probably still be helping his Dad run the football team if you hadn't Tweeted out a bunch of opponents you wanted a few years ago or Tweeted about a 10,000 seat indy show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stiva Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 Where does this leave The Factory, I wonder? Isn’t that a Cody and QT owned school? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkdoc Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, Stiva said: Where does this leave The Factory, I wonder? Isn’t that a Cody and QT owned school? Dustin seems like the natural (ha!) successor there, and he already said he’s staying with AEW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveJRogers Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 Unless he’s ready to just be a full time character again, with no more ambitions for the creative side of the biz beyond something like what he did on JBL & Cole’s YouTube show and the Rhodes to The Top be more akin to a Miz/Bella/Cena/etc side project, I don’t see him coming back to a WWE that just turfed Triple H and dismantled his entire NXT “empire.” It probably will be a long while before a current or “part time” performer gains enough backstage creative power like that again if Vince is still calling the shots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strobogo Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 9 minutes ago, Jesse Ewiak said: I don't think this is that surprising, if Tony taking more control of the booking, etc. is true. If you're the son of Dusty, would you rather be told 'no' by Vince McMahon or by some punk rich kid who in your mind, would probably still be helping his Dad run the football team if you hadn't Tweeted out a bunch of opponents you wanted a few years ago or Tweeted about a 10,000 seat indy show. I would probably want the place where I had control of my presentation, promos, matches, and input on the rest of the company as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveJRogers Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 2 hours ago, Jmare007 said: I also don't see what the "work" from this would be about? Ok, you trick the fans into thinking you are leaving but you are not. But there is no big angle you are involved in, nor a big angle within the company for Cody to get involved in as a surprise. There's no big swerve beside his music hitting on Dynamite and him getting a big pop (and then big boos). Would it be for him to finally turn heel? It would honestly be one of the dumbest ways of turning heel I'd ever seen if that's the case. I saw speculation in a Facebook group suggest a Danielson/Mox led group becoming an nWo like faction, with Cody returning to fend them off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkdoc Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 The point is he’s lost some of that input on the rest of the company over time. To get a bit deeper into things, AEW has overall been leaning more and more into modern Internet meme culture and that’s not something Cody really “gets” the way Omega & the Bucks do. That seems to be the approach that’s growing then the most, so perhaps he sees the writing on the wall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 Cody had that HORRENDOUS "Make 'em say Uh" shirt, so him being out of touch with meme culture is shocking to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkdoc Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 I could see Danhausen being a bridge too far for Cody, put it to you that way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strobogo Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 12 minutes ago, funkdoc said: The point is he’s lost some of that input on the rest of the company over time. To get a bit deeper into things, AEW has overall been leaning more and more into modern Internet meme culture and that’s not something Cody really “gets” the way Omega & the Bucks do. That seems to be the approach that’s growing then the most, so perhaps he sees the writing on the wall So his response is to leave and go back to WWE where he'll have no input at all. Makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 15 minutes ago, SteveJRogers said: I saw speculation in a Facebook group suggest a Danielson/Mox led group becoming an nWo like faction, with Cody returning to fend them off. Wow, that would be a huge disappointment, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Ewiak Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, strobogo said: So his response is to leave and go back to WWE where he'll have no input at all. Makes sense. I mean, from all reports, actual top guys like Roman, Rollins, Brock, etc. to get plenty of input on what they want to do. As Sami pointed out in his interview, not everybody in the WWE is being oppressed. If you're a top guy, things seem pretty fine. Now, maybe you think Cody wouldn't eventually be treated as a top guy in the Fed, which is entirely possible, but the same thing seemed to be happening in AEW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 3 hours ago, PeteF3 said: I know this may as well have been 500 years ago and not 34, but Dave wrote in the 1988 WONs that you shouldn't expect Arn & Tully to be buried or given wacky gimmick makeovers when they jumped to the WWF in 1988, because that would have killed the WWF's chances of grabbing Ric Flair. And as it turned out, other than maybe a wacky gimmick tag name, Arn and Tully were mostly left alone. So I don't really see Cody jobbing to Grayson Waller on NXT--they have to do right by him if they want to get any other major AEW talent to jump. But what major AEW talent is gettable for WWE? The only one who seems even remotely likely is MJF. Most of the other top guys have either already walked away from WWE or turned down offers from them. Also, given the apparent breakdown in relations between Cody and the other EVPs, it seems questionable that he'll be able to entice anyone of significance to make the leap. If Cody does go to WWE, I'd say the closest historical analogy would be Dusty going to the WWF. And look how that turned out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strobogo Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 Well Cody walked away from WWE and is an EVP for AEW and he's seemingly going back so they could probably shoot for the stars for anyone except probably Punk and Moxley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveJRogers Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 5 minutes ago, strobogo said: So his response is to leave and go back to WWE where he'll have no input at all. Makes sense. Yup. That’s why I’m still thinking this is a mega “master” work. Like I said, you don’t systematically let Triple H’s most recent pets (Cole and Undisputed Era) walk, rebrand the whole brand itself and cut Triple H’s underlings, only to give creative keys to someone who left a few years ago to co-create his own promotion! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 11 minutes ago, strobogo said: So his response is to leave and go back to WWE where he'll have no input at all. Makes sense. I mean, he thought the neck tattoo was a good idea, so it seems safe to say decision-making isn't his strong suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveJRogers Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 5 minutes ago, Jesse Ewiak said: I mean, from all reports, actual top guys like Roman, Rollins, Brock, etc. to get plenty of input on what they want to do. As Sami pointed out in his interview, not everybody in the WWE is being oppressed. If you're a top guy, things seem pretty fine. Now, maybe you think Cody wouldn't eventually be treated as a top guy in the Fed, which is entirely possible, but the same thing seemed to be happening in AEW. I’d imagine after literally being the Triple H of AEW, granted he was doing the whole CodyVerse that for months was separate from the rest of AEW, I doubt he’d settle for the “run of the mill” creative control of just his own programs just because “he’s going home” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Jackson Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 If WWE has any sense of humor at all, Cody will debut wearing the polka dots. Then he would dramatically rip them off to reveal some new gaudy American flag inspired trunks or something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Ewiak Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 9 minutes ago, SteveJRogers said: I’d imagine after literally being the Triple H of AEW, granted he was doing the whole CodyVerse that for months was separate from the rest of AEW, I doubt he’d settle for the “run of the mill” creative control of just his own programs just because “he’s going home” I think that's the point - he's not the Triple H anymore. He was shunted off to the side, basically in a corner away from all the stuff that actually mattered (Mox/Danielson/Omega/etc.). So yeah, he could stay and have a couple of segments a week feuding with other people Tony has no plans for or people connected to him via his school, but instead of being you could argue, at worst, the #4 guy at All Out, he's now behind all the other EVP's, Mox, Danielson, Punk, and now maybe even Page and Cole. Now, perhaps, if he goes back, he's having heatless matches against Boogz by the end of the year, but in the long run, is that really that different from a feud with Dan Lambert? I don't even like Cody that much, but I can totally understand why he'd go back to the fed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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