NintendoLogic Posted May 24, 2019 Report Share Posted May 24, 2019 The main issue is that, rightly or wrongly, the crowd at Double or Nothing would have shit all over a draw/DQ finish and Tony Khan didn't want that kind of reaction on his debut PPV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstar Sleeze Posted May 24, 2019 Report Share Posted May 24, 2019 1 hour ago, NintendoLogic said: The main issue is that, rightly or wrongly, the crowd at Double or Nothing would have shit all over a draw/DQ finish and Tony Khan didn't want that kind of reaction on his debut PPV. My bad. I thought anti-DQ/Draw was about week-to-week booking. Yes for the debut PPV it should feature a clean victory. Is the winner of Jericho/Omega facing the winner of battle royale at Double Or Nothing or at the next PPV? My understanding was the next PPV and this was in regards to PAC vs Omega. Yes, the first championship match should have a clean victory. 100%. My talking point was for week-to-week TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted May 24, 2019 Report Share Posted May 24, 2019 Cody took a weird shot at Bayley, of all people, during a press conference about her inflatable tube men entrance and "pretending to be nice." He later had to dial it back on Twitter, and even Kyla Rae defended Bayley as her hero and inspiration. I have no idea what the point was, as yapping about Bayley isn't a good look and doesn't enhance Double or Nothing in any way. "Controversy creates cash" mindset maybe? Still a misfire IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted May 24, 2019 Report Share Posted May 24, 2019 4 hours ago, Superstar Sleeze said: My bad. I thought anti-DQ/Draw was about week-to-week booking. Yes for the debut PPV it should feature a clean victory. Is the winner of Jericho/Omega facing the winner of battle royale at Double Or Nothing or at the next PPV? My understanding was the next PPV and this was in regards to PAC vs Omega. Yes, the first championship match should have a clean victory. 100%. My talking point was for week-to-week TV. I agree you have to go that route eventually with TV but I think that should be used sparingly for PPV. I also think an emphasis on clean endings would really help separate them from the WWE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirEdger Posted May 24, 2019 Report Share Posted May 24, 2019 1 hour ago, C.S. said: Cody took a weird shot at Bayley, of all people, during a press conference about her inflatable tube men entrance and "pretending to be nice." He later had to dial it back on Twitter, and even Kyla Rae defended Bayley as her hero and inspiration. I have no idea what the point was, as yapping about Bayley isn't a good look and doesn't enhance Double or Nothing in any way. "Controversy creates cash" mindset maybe? Still a misfire IMO. Honestly, Cody should be better than that. What purpose does it serve him to take a shot at Bayley like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted May 24, 2019 Report Share Posted May 24, 2019 Was it a joke that fell flat or was he implying she's not really a nice person IRL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted May 24, 2019 Report Share Posted May 24, 2019 That's why I can't stand this social media society. It's nothing, it's a joke in passing about wacky inflatable tubemen, and people are acting all offended and shit like it meant anything. For fuck's sake. The oversensitivity of people has become totally insane. Makes you want to troll like a pig, really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirEdger Posted May 24, 2019 Report Share Posted May 24, 2019 It's not being oversensitive as it is quite frankly unnecessary, given that in the grand scheme of things, while Bayley is getting some renewed momentum, she isn't moving the needle in terms of ratings. If he wanted to take a shot at someone, man or woman, take a shot at Rollins, Lesnar, Triple H, hell take a shot at Becky or Charlotte. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted May 24, 2019 Report Share Posted May 24, 2019 Have you even seen the clip ? He didn't *take a shot* at anyone. Kyla Rae has been compared as a character to Bailey a lot, so he's just making a joke in passing because that's how it is. Shits and giggles. Yeah, people are oversensitive as shit when you have to always put smileys everywhere and explain that a joke is a joke because there's always the possibility that someone might get #offended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirEdger Posted May 24, 2019 Report Share Posted May 24, 2019 That's allegedly what could've caused Cody to take a shot at Bayley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted May 24, 2019 Report Share Posted May 24, 2019 Yeah, sure, some stuff from 2016... Twitter people are the worst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted May 24, 2019 Report Share Posted May 24, 2019 Cody is pretty protective of his dad, I don't think it would be far fetched to believe that pissed him off. Too bad for him it's the one person in WWE his fanbase won't allow anyone to make jokes about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRH Posted May 24, 2019 Report Share Posted May 24, 2019 How is that mocking Dusty? Bayley spoke highly of Dusty in that clip, it was the Bar who ripped up the bear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted May 24, 2019 Report Share Posted May 24, 2019 I had to shut the weigh-in off. Was way too embarrassing, felt really amateurish & like no one was prepared. Plus the production, especially the audio, was quite bad. Shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted May 25, 2019 Report Share Posted May 25, 2019 So in other news, Deano Machino was announced as a senior producer/coach today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted May 25, 2019 Report Share Posted May 25, 2019 9 hours ago, Superstar Sleeze said: My bad. I thought anti-DQ/Draw was about week-to-week booking. Yes for the debut PPV it should feature a clean victory. Is the winner of Jericho/Omega facing the winner of battle royale at Double Or Nothing or at the next PPV? My understanding was the next PPV and this was in regards to PAC vs Omega. Yes, the first championship match should have a clean victory. 100%. My talking point was for week-to-week TV. The date won't be announced until after the conclusion of Omega/Jericho, but it'll most likely be at All In 2 on August 31. PAC/Omega was supposed to take place at some point afterward. Apparently, AEW figured that even if PAC was still champion at that point, Dragon Gate wouldn't have a problem with him losing to Omega due to Omega's level of stardom in Japan. It was within the last week or so that DG made it known that they had no plans to take the belt off PAC and he wouldn't be doing any jobs while champion. 2 hours ago, sek69 said: Cody is pretty protective of his dad, I don't think it would be far fetched to believe that pissed him off. Too bad for him it's the one person in WWE his fanbase won't allow anyone to make jokes about. But it's not like Bayley had anything to do with scripting that segment. And Cody should know the score given that he used to work for WWE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadaveri Posted May 25, 2019 Report Share Posted May 25, 2019 He wasn't making a joke about the tubemen. His comment was that Kylie was "a ball of emotion and passionate... she's not wacky inflatable tubemen pretending to be nice she's actually..." [he then doesn't finish the sentence as he notices the audience reacting badly]. The reference to the tubemen was just identifying who he was negatively comparing Kylie's character to, it wasn't the subject of the remark. Also see on the Observer Board Bryan Alvarez is doubling down claiming he's heard stories of Bayley not being a nice person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted May 25, 2019 Report Share Posted May 25, 2019 Well, I mean, no one can possibly be as nice as the childlike Bayley character. Good to see kayfabe is still alive and well though, and people appear to be genuinely shocked that Pamela Martinez is *gasp* actually an adult with the same flaws and bad days the rest of us have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted May 25, 2019 Report Share Posted May 25, 2019 Hey, maybe Bayley is a total bitch IRL, who the fuck knows or cares, really. This Twitter drama (like every Twiter drama) is ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted May 25, 2019 Report Share Posted May 25, 2019 And the more likely scenario, anyway, is that IF Bayley is seen as a "bitch," it's because the good ol' boys network in rasslin' isn't used to a woman speaking up for herself and being assertive about her character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted May 25, 2019 Report Share Posted May 25, 2019 This whole discussion is something else, wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted May 25, 2019 Report Share Posted May 25, 2019 I remember there being old Bayley tweets, maybe even before she was in NXT, where she was cussing up a storm about something. Probably long since deleted since she does the kid friendly hugger thing now. Not that I'm a person that profanity would matter to me but some people, for whatever reason, it bothers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted May 25, 2019 Report Share Posted May 25, 2019 Hey, I just read that Kenny Omega is better than Ricky Steamboat! Jesus fucking Christ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Thread Killer Posted May 25, 2019 Report Share Posted May 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Johnny Sorrow said: Hey, I just read that Kenny Omega is better than Ricky Steamboat! Jesus fucking Christ. Wh...wh...what? Somebody actually wrote that? And they meant it?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMKK Posted May 25, 2019 Report Share Posted May 25, 2019 1 hour ago, The Thread Killer said: Wh...wh...what? Somebody actually wrote that? And they meant it?! Dave getting way too online yet again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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