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Dark Side of the Ring: Viceland docu-series

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Yeah I thought I knew what I was getting into, then Robin told the story of Grizzly showing up at her house unannounced with a 9 year old girl. Jesus. 

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I love the DSOTR series as a whole but this season peaked with its first episode thus far. The garbage match one was just a turn off, I just don't like seeing that sort of thing. The Warrior episode was what it was. The Korea episode was somewhat of a non episode. Due to the subject matter I dare say the Jake Roberts episode will be something I'm not keen on viewing.  

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I knew the Grizzly Smith episode would be brutal, but the speculation that he might have had something to do with his daughter's disappearance still knocked me for a loop. At least on the episodes with exceptionally dark subject matter (Benoit, Pillman, Grizz), they go out of their way to try to end with some kind of silver lining.

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Just watching the Grizzly Smith doc made me need a drink. I can't imagine what it would be like living it. 

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Man, I forgot they were doing an episode on the Dynamite Kid. Funny how it's almost like they undersold what a psycho he was by saying how Jacques Rougeau standing up for himself (and apparently getting Dino Bravo to have the mob threaten DK if he retaliated) seemed to fuck him up mentally. Dude seemed to be mentally incapable of dealing with the idea that someone would get tired of his bullshit. 

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I mean, considering Dino Bravo's real-life link to the mob (former Montreal mob boss Vic Cotroni was legit Dino's godfather IIRC), I wouldn't even be surprised if that turned out to be true.

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Watching many of these DSOR episodes there's such a depressing through line of the abuse and pain - mental and physical - that the women, be it wives, mothers, sisters, daughters in these wrestlers lives suffer. In each instance the causes may be slightly different, it may be amplified by things like CTE or drugs or alcohol, but it causes those in the wrestlers home lives to become victims of some warped and toxic reality, and I'm continuously amazed by the strength and resilience, of those that have managed to build lives for themselves in the years since when you consider what they have experienced.     

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On 6/11/2021 at 1:24 AM, SirEdger said:

I mean, considering Dino Bravo's real-life link to the mob (former Montreal mob boss Vic Cotroni was legit Dino's godfather IIRC), I wouldn't even be surprised if that turned out to be true.

Dave was asked on WO radio last night if he believed that story and he was like "absolutely, I always wondered why Dynamite never got him back for that, and that story makes perfect sense" basically saying the only thing that could have prevented him from getting his revenge would be a threat to his family. 

It was also heartbreaking seeing Michelle express frustration on why people only focus on the bad things he did, which as his wife I can understand, but then she talks about him dragging her around the house by her hair and pointing a gun at her face. 

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When they started talking about how Dynamite would slip drugs in people's drinks, I thought they were going to mention what Diana wrote in her book that Davey Boy/Jim Neidhart/Dynamite would all give their wives roofied OJ to drink and then have anal sex with them while they were passed out. 

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The Hart family is genuinely one of the most fucked-up families the world has ever seen, and anyone who tries to justify or explain away Stu's actions as just a rough but kind man looking out for his kids needs to fuck all the way off. It is an absolute wonder that Owen was such a sweetheart, and that he found a really sweet girl who put up with his family for as long as she did 

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Just a note - if you're looking for this week's episode, its actually available for viewing under the name "Vice Versa: Chyna." The episode wasn't recorded on my DVR but I downloaded the Vice TV app on my Roku and it is listed there. You can read more about it here:

https://www.yahoo.com/now/vice-tv-gm-why-chyna-160000125.html

Any which way, I just turned it on. There's no Jericho narration and much more footage of Chyna telling her own story so it definitely is noticeably different than your typical DSOTR episode. 

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The Chyna doc is much more of a traditional documentary film compared to Dark Side. Its fantastic IMO. The interesting part is how the filmmakers used footage from a failed/abandoned documentary film that was shot in 2015-16 in order to capture what was going on during the last year of her life. There's much more to it than that but, the format is very refreshing and certainly emotional to watch. Its shown on the Vice Versa program BTW.

I was originally bummed when I head Dark Side wasn't going to cover Chyna but this film trumps anything the show would have done. I'm guessing since Vice had this in the wings they weren't fighting to have the D.S.O.T.R. episode made/shown. 

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Watching the Chyna doc now, its so heartbreaking how many people knew she was on a bad path but it illustrated how you can't save someone who doesn't want to be saved. 

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It didn't help that the crew of the original documentary were varying shades of sleazy/out there themselves. Her manager comes off as especially exploitative. Spiritual advisors as a whole usually comes off as snake oil salesmen, and that guy was no different. The director seemed to be an addict himself and only helped enable Chyna's substance abuse. The producer seems like he meant well enough, but was a bit of an oddball, too. 

As a whole, her story felt a lot more deflating than many of the DSotR subjects we've gotten. She made her own choices, but her upbringing made her vulnerable to poor decisions. Coupled with her unceremonious boot from WWF in 2001 and the subsequent erasure of her from programming, even during the boom of the nostalgia era, and it almost felt like her fate was sealed 15 years before she finally passed. What a hopeless and dark road to travel for such an extended period of time. 

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