Blehschmidt Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 I can only assume the Baker push is a favor to their buddy Adam Cole. Allie really seems to be the smart push when it comes to a non-Joshi babyface. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 It's worth noting that Kenny Omega was mostly a non-factor the first two weeks. In the first episode, he ran in for the save after the women's title match and got taken out almost immediately in the main event. In the second, he was part of a post-match angle in the middle of the show. It's kind of striking how there's an inverse relationship between Omega's involvement and the quality of the show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 47 minutes ago, NintendoLogic said: It's kind of striking how there's an inverse relationship between Omega's involvement and the quality of the show. Except there isn't. SCU were barely involved this week and the show was better. So, "there's an inverse relationship between SCU's involvement and the quality of the show." See. Works too. Hell, Allie hasn't been on Dynamite yet. "There's an inverse relationship between Allie's involvement and the quality of the show." Confirmation bias at work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMKK Posted October 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 I do think that they could do with a great Omega match on TV to establish him as a superstar beyond the base. They should definitely make up a nice video package from the Janela match for the main TV and build him up as a threat for Moxley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Mrzfn said: Really enjoyed both episodes of Dynamite so far. My only real complaint is that I don't really get the push of Britt Baker and Bea Priestley... feels like they have several non-joshi women with a lot more potential. Maybe it's just me but I feel like the crowd is particularly meh towards Baker. A dentist with a tooth based submission feels pretty cheesy as well. I don't think AEW has the roster right now to have a women's division at all. I think having the first title match be Riho Vs. Nyla was also a misstep. They need more women, for sure. They need to fill out the women's division more. I'm not impressed by Riho & like you said, Britt Baker & Bea Priestley have underwhelmed, with Bea so far also being downright dangerous. Has she had a single match in AEW so far where someone didn't get hurt? Also obviously AEW didn't foresee Kylie Rae leaving. They just don't have the female star power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 The issue with women is that so many of the best, including from Japan, are signed with WWE already (we need more of that girl who looked awesome at the last PPV and whose name I don't remember… That Cool Japanese Girl…). Riho is an experiment, maybe she can draw teenage girls. I see potential in Baker, but she's still a work in progress too, like Rose (who impressed me quite a bit last week). In term of being a strong character, Allie should be the centerfold of the division right now. She can be a lovable, kinda loony babyface, and she can turn the switch and go batshit insane, so both ways work. Brandi is a great promo and a great manager… Of course, Awesome Kong should do cameos and kill someone from time to time. Are we gonna get a match with Aja ? Since they are working with AAA, they should try to get Ayako Hamada or Fabi Apache, who are terrific veterans. No idea how cool ruda like La Hiedra or Lady Maravilla could get over, but it would be interesting to see them here. IMPACT has THE two girls AEW would want in term of star power, character and work : Taya Walkyrie and of course Tessa Blanchard. And there's Scarlett Bordeaux who's a free agent and who hopefully will show up one day with her boyfriend, now that would be an awesome surprise on TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 16 minutes ago, Coffey said: I don't think AEW has the roster right now to have a women's division at all. I think having the first title match be Riho Vs. Nyla was also a misstep. I wonder if the original plan was The Dentist vs. Smiley Kylie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 33 minutes ago, El-P said: The issue with women is that so many of the best, including from Japan, are signed with WWE already (we need more of that girl who looked awesome at the last PPV and whose name I don't remember… That Cool Japanese Girl…). Riho is an experiment, maybe she can draw teenage girls. I see potential in Baker, but she's still a work in progress too, like Rose (who impressed me quite a bit last week). In term of being a strong character, Allie should be the centerfold of the division right now. She can be a lovable, kinda loony babyface, and she can turn the switch and go batshit insane, so both ways work. Brandi is a great promo and a great manager… Of course, Awesome Kong should do cameos and kill someone from time to time. Are we gonna get a match with Aja ? Since they are working with AAA, they should try to get Ayako Hamada or Fabi Apache, who are terrific veterans. No idea how cool ruda like La Hiedra or Lady Maravilla could get over, but it would be interesting to see them here. IMPACT has THE two girls AEW would want in term of star power, character and work : Taya Walkyrie and of course Tessa Blanchard. And there's Scarlett Bordeaux who's a free agent and who hopefully will show up one day with her boyfriend, now that would be an awesome surprise on TV. Scarlett's all but announced that she signed with WWE at this point though. Like it's a done deal but they're in that "WWE doesn't want anyone to know yet" period. I would love to see some luchadoras from AAA show up and make AEW's women division the female version of the first hour of Nitro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 18 minutes ago, sek69 said: Scarlett's all but announced that she signed with WWE at this point though. Like it's a done deal but they're in that "WWE doesn't want anyone to know yet" period. Because they need yet another hot looking blonde in their roster… Hope for her she gets a good deal and doesn't get too wasted. I have no faith that they will get her character though, none at all. IMPACT fucked up so bad with her and Kross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirEdger Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 On the main roster, maybe not. On NXT, I think they can still pull it off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tetsujin Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 If I were AEW I would hire Meiko Satomura no matter what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Enthusiast Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 20 hours ago, Blehschmidt said: I can only assume the Baker push is a favor to their buddy Adam Cole. Allie really seems to be the smart push when it comes to a non-Joshi babyface. Britt really is a black hole of charisma. Â It's wild. Â Her "commentary" on the first ep is probably the worst thing thus far on Dynamite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 Britt is this weird combination where she looks the part of what you want in a wrestler. She's good looking, has the body you want in a wrestler and is athletic enough to make you think she should be good. She even kind of looks like she should have some sort of charisma to her as well. But then you get her in there and she can't talk, if she has charisma she can't project it and her execution of moves is terrible despite having what appears to be athletic ability. She's like Seth Rollins if his inring execution of moves sucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMKK Posted October 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 To me, she just seems super green in her environment. I feel like they booked her with that upside in mind but she's about a year or two inexperienced for the position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 It's tough for me. It's really easy to pick apart Nyla Rose and see what she needs to work on. I have a harder time putting my finger on what Baker needs to work on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, Mad Dog said: It's tough for me. It's really easy to pick apart Nyla Rose and see what she needs to work on. I have a harder time putting my finger on what Baker needs to work on. Honestly she really hasn't been featured that much. Once she gets to do a bunch of single matches, it'll be easier to see where she really stands for now.  Nyla Rose is easier to pick apart because of her shape and the role she's supposed to play. Both are green. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 I will give Baker some credit. She isn't as bad in the ring as Leva Bates is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slasher Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 My problem with Nyla is that while I recognize her as a woman and respect her decision, to me I can't shake the feeling that I am watching a "man" beat up women. Before people mention Chyna or Nicole Bass or whoever else, in my opinion Nyla looks more like a man than they did. I wish I could be more progressive than that, but nope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 Well, they could have a heel working a TERF gimmick opposing Nyla. I don't think pro-wrestling is quite ready for that kind of angle though… The question of the body in transgender issues is quite interesting as far as pro-wrestling goes though (well, sports in general), especially in a context where some promotions do man vs woman matches without blinking (AAA, IMPACT, tons of indies). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 I would rather her trans status never enter the onscreen product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 With social media it doesn't matter, you know people would adress it anyway. I mean, there was tons of transphobic shit on the Youtube chats of the Buy In at All Out, and I don't think Nyla had refered to herself as trans yet by then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 I'm probably opening up a can of worms, but I think Nyla looks more feminine than Chyna did pre-plastic surgery. And she's really not that big. She only seems monstrously huge because she's been working mainly with tiny joshi wrestlers. She's actually quite a bit smaller than Nia Jax. Much better in the ring, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoS Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 Nyla Rose is green, but I feel she has a lot of potential and she can be everything WWE wishes Nia Jax was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Enthusiast Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Mad Dog said: I will give Baker some credit. She isn't as bad in the ring as Leva Bates is. This I agree with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slasher Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 2 hours ago, NintendoLogic said: I'm probably opening up a can of worms, but I think Nyla looks more feminine than Chyna did pre-plastic surgery. And she's really not that big. She only seems monstrously huge because she's been working mainly with tiny joshi wrestlers. She's actually quite a bit smaller than Nia Jax. Much better in the ring, too. Fair enough. I guess the size of the other gals makes her look the way she does to me. And I agree she is better looking than pre surgery Chyna and heck even Nicole Bass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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