Robert S Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 25 minutes ago, Badlittlekitten said: Thing is, if Cargill had that body but happened to be white and blonde he'd be banging on about how she looks like a superstar (she does). But nah. Looks like Shelton Benjamin and doesn't get a chance. I am sure he has said a lot of negative things about Sable or Jackie Gayda over the years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badlittlekitten Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 They didn't look like THAT though. Cornette tends to be a size/muscle mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 Honestly the whole "muscle = star" in 2021 kinda baffles me, especially in a very work-oriented promotion like AEW. This is a totally dated mentality. If you can't deliver inside the ring once the bell rings, you're not gonna get over. Cargill totally looks like the kind of talent WWE would want still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeg Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 I 100% agree Corny's assessment. Cargill has elite D1 athleticism and looks the part of a pro athlete. None of the women and very few of the men in AEW can say those things. But she's been in the wrestling business less than 6 months and is nowhere near ready to be on TV but she's got some potential. Nowadays people will get super offended if you say that somebody who lacks the required experience for a job must have slept with somebody to get to it, but I can understand his sentiment because as of now she is not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoS Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 19 minutes ago, joeg said: Nowadays people will get super offended if you say that somebody who lacks the required experience for a job must have slept with somebody to get to it, but I can understand his sentiment because as of now she is not good. Not saying you meant this that way, but this, in my opinion, comes across like "If you think blatant misogyny is bad, it's your problem." Lots of things were acceptable back in the day which should never have been acceptable and are not acceptable now. Corny's racist and sexist rant is one of them. Like, none of us here have defended Jade Cargill's working ability. You just have to look at the weekly AEW threads; I have frequently said she is the absolute worst promo in wrestling today, and that the Shaq angle is the drizzling shits which I don't know the point of doing. But there's a way to convey that without coming across as a dumbass bigoted dick. You managed to do that. All of us have managed to do it. I don't think it is unreasonable to expect that Corny also manages to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeg Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 I was trying to make the point that I agree with Cornette's sentiment even if he was somewhat offensive in the way he said it. Actually that's how I feel about most things Cornette says. I had no intention of offending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoS Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 No offense taken at all, thanks for clarifying! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert S Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 On 2/7/2021 at 9:07 AM, joeg said: I was trying to make the point that I agree with Cornette's sentiment even if he was somewhat offensive in the way he said it. Actually that's how I feel about most things Cornette says. I had no intention of offending. Lot of times, Cornette is the embodiment of that famous "you're not wrong Walter, you're just an asshole" line from The Big Lebowski. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeg Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 19 hours ago, Robert S said: Lot of times, Cornette is the embodiment of that famous "you're not wrong Walter, you're just an asshole" line from The Big Lebowski. OMG I was going to say the exact same thing but I didn't know if Mos would get the reference..... Everything Cornette says is spot on, but he's such an asshole about it. Buuut him being an asshole is what makes him entertaining in the same way most of the best jokes in Lebowski came from Walter being grossly offensive. If Cornette were polite and well mannered I don't think he'd have the following that he does. He often seems to say offensive things just to draw attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoS Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 I would def get the reference haha, the Coen brothers are some of my fav Hollywood filmmakers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoS Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 I've never heard of this wrestler before but she ratio'd the crap out of Corny so I am a fan already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 Corny getting out-worked and out-trolled by a 25 years old Japanese woman pro-wrestler... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 Sorry, but Cornette vs. creepy joshi stans is a heel vs. heel matchup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 She is the actual worker, whom he actually had called out earlier (I guess because someone linked her account to him since she's gonna be in the AEW tournament). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 I know she's the worker. But the Twitter stans liking Itoh's tweet and swarming Cornette are not. By the way, I've seen Itoh work. I must not be in the target demo, because her singing gimmick is zero buys in my book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 I think her deal is she was a former pop idol who got fired or something for not being the the squeaky clean image they expect. So her gimmick is to be provocative on purpose because it's the opposite you'd expect from an idol. That's far too much nuance for Corny and his band of idiots, they just want to be sexist and racist, with a dash of homophobia directed at Omega with the "twinkletoes" comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, sek69 said: with a dash of homophobia directed at Omega with the "twinkletoes" comment. I had to google that, I had no idea what that meant (although I guesses it was an insult toward Omega). So pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoS Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 I would take creepy joshi stans over racist xenophobic rants any day. Also, I don't believe in kink-shaming but this was a hilarious response: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 It's really well past the point of pretending Cornette is someone worth listening to just because his wrestling opinions match up with one's own. He's like the wrestling equivalent of Bill Maher. I agree with him probably close to 100% when it comes to politics, but he's such a smug asshole about it I no longer watch his show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted February 10, 2021 Report Share Posted February 10, 2021 The funniest thing is that I did not know of Maki Itoh's existence (she was announced but was a part of a bunch of japanese wrestlers I had never heard of because I don't follow the scene), but now whenever she'll show up either on Dark or Dynamite (even on a taped match from Japan), she'll already be over with me for having owned Cornette on Twitter. And I'm probably not the only one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted February 10, 2021 Report Share Posted February 10, 2021 43 minutes ago, sek69 said: It's really well past the point of pretending Cornette is someone worth listening to just because his wrestling opinions match up with one's own. He's like the wrestling equivalent of Bill Maher. I agree with him probably close to 100% when it comes to politics, but he's such a smug asshole about it I no longer watch his show. Same here, plus Maher is also an Islamaphobe and a mysoginist. I still watch Real Time on occasion, but not like I used to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeg Posted February 10, 2021 Report Share Posted February 10, 2021 2 hours ago, sek69 said: He's like the wrestling equivalent of Bill Maher. I agree with him probably close to 100% when it comes to politics, but he's such a smug asshole about it I no longer watch his show. Exactly.... but I think the smug asshole thing is an act (for both of them) to get attention. If Cornette acted like a normal human being what would separate him from the 30 other podcasts by former wrestlers? Also does Cornette have any room to talk when it comes to fetishes and alternative life styles? I'm not one to judge. But hey come on now. You can't say on your podcast that what goes on between a man, his wife, their friend, their other friend, and their other friend in a hot tub is nothing but consensual fun then a month later call somebody twinkletoes and fetishist.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted February 10, 2021 Report Share Posted February 10, 2021 A lot of it comes off as a little child who's go to insult its to call someone gay. Like I'm sure he's leaning in to it for gimmick purposes as well, but he's what happens when an asshole does the "your real personality turned to 11" deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeg Posted February 10, 2021 Report Share Posted February 10, 2021 I'm not one that judges others or gets easily offended which is why I think I defend Corny so much here. But to me you can't rant about how your personal predilections are your business and nobody else's so don't judge and then turn around and mock somebody else for their own personal preferences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dav'oh Posted February 10, 2021 Report Share Posted February 10, 2021 I'm more used to "Twinkletoes" being used on someone like John Tenta or Kamala. Or even Titus O'Neil. It's always been used sarcastically. The irony is that Kenny really is twinkle-toed. It's a compliment. Corny is a gutless shit for hiding behind euphemisms and innuendo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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