Mad Dog Posted April 29, 2020 Report Share Posted April 29, 2020 Yeah, I really liked Dolph at one point but he seemed to give up after they did zero with him after that Survivor Series match. I think he realizes he was getting pushed and paid the same regardless of what he did after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocco Posted April 29, 2020 Report Share Posted April 29, 2020 13 minutes ago, sek69 said: As much as I don't care for the guy, Dolph seems like someone no longer giving any F's (and not in a "Batista on his way out" good way) and a change of scenery might do wonders for him. I just don't care really to ever see him again. I find his personality grating and I've seen him wrestle what seems like a millions times at this point and most of it has been pretty unmemorable. Although I admit some of that might because of WWE booking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMKK Posted April 29, 2020 Report Share Posted April 29, 2020 Ziggler outside of WWE would depend on his motivations. If he still does the stand-up comedy stuff he might just want to pursue that full time and do some North-Eastern indy shots a few times a year working nothing matches with Carlito for some spare cash. Or maybe he would want to show that he could have been a bigger star, in which case he would need to look to AEW, New Japan and maybe like PWG or even NWA for a bit of buzz. But he's a pure WWE system guy so we don't know how much he can work outside of that formula. He might still want to do his chinlock spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted April 29, 2020 Report Share Posted April 29, 2020 The rumors of a sale have picked up a lot in the last few hours, for what it's worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkdoc Posted April 29, 2020 Report Share Posted April 29, 2020 yeah, Dutch Mantel was the first one to say it IIRC...if Vince is still in charge then idk if it really means much though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted April 29, 2020 Report Share Posted April 29, 2020 12 minutes ago, Loss said: The rumors of a sale have picked up a lot in the last few hours, for what it's worth. To Disney? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted April 29, 2020 Report Share Posted April 29, 2020 WWE really has turned into WCW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted April 29, 2020 Report Share Posted April 29, 2020 "ESPN and Fox" is how it's being worded on Twitter, which could mean a lot of things. Obviously they aren't going to both go in half and run the company together, but if there's anything to this, it could be an arrangement where Fox gets all of their TV content while Disney gets the company itself. I don't know if I believe it or not, but I do know it would explain a lot of the recent cost-cutting to make the earnings per share as favorable as possible. It would also potentially explain some of the recent corporate departures. A part of me also thinks that the story of Vince demoting Paul Levesque might be something we learn more about in coming weeks and months and be pretty significant. We'll see. But if something happened to make Vince think he no longer had an obvious heir apparent, it could have influenced his thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted April 29, 2020 Report Share Posted April 29, 2020 If the company is sold, what happens to the Saudi deal ? It's one thing if your pro-wrestling company flying under the radar, but if you're ESPN, Fox or Disney, not the same focus from other media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMKK Posted April 29, 2020 Report Share Posted April 29, 2020 For what it's worth, I've heard that this story has basically been a misinterpretation of WWE wanting to sell PPV rights or even the Network itself to an outside party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted April 29, 2020 Report Share Posted April 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, El-P said: If the company is sold, what happens to the Saudi deal ? It's one thing if your pro-wrestling company flying under the radar, but if you're ESPN, Fox or Disney, not the same focus from other media. Disney doesn't give a fuck honestly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted April 29, 2020 Report Share Posted April 29, 2020 Yes. I also tend to think that giant corporate acquisitions happening during a pandemic are gross and immoral, but that aspect wouldn't even be in the top five of worst things WWE has done in the last month. I don't know if this would require approval from the DOJ's antitrust division or not, but I'm guessing WWE is well-connected enough in the administration that that aspect wouldn't be a concern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted April 29, 2020 Report Share Posted April 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Mad Dog said: Disney doesn't give a fuck honestly. Well, there is that. Disney is not exactly better than WWE anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted April 29, 2020 Report Share Posted April 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, Loss said: Yes. I also tend to think that giant corporate acquisitions happening during a pandemic are gross and immoral, but that aspect wouldn't even be in the top five of worst things WWE has done in the last month. I don't know if this would require approval from the DOJ's antitrust division or not, but I'm guessing WWE is well-connected enough in the administration that that aspect wouldn't be a concern. They have let some absolutely terrible mergers go through over the last couple of decades so I doubt it would be stopped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted April 29, 2020 Report Share Posted April 29, 2020 Just now, El-P said: Well, there is that. Disney is not exactly better than WWE anyway. I would argue that WWE are saints in comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted April 29, 2020 Report Share Posted April 29, 2020 Just now, Mad Dog said: I would argue that WWE are saints in comparison. I'm not really following what Disney does, as I'm not an avid huge blockbuster watcher anyway (I skipped the last Star Wars after all the terrible feedback), but I trust you on that. Hollywood is another level of fucked up I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMKK Posted April 29, 2020 Report Share Posted April 29, 2020 8 minutes ago, El-P said: I'm not really following what Disney does, as I'm not an avid huge blockbuster watcher anyway (I skipped the last Star Wars after all the terrible feedback), but I trust you on that. Hollywood is another level of fucked up I guess. Hollywood is a carny business too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted April 29, 2020 Report Share Posted April 29, 2020 Yeah. Wrestling is just more honest about what it is than Hollywood is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted April 29, 2020 Report Share Posted April 29, 2020 26 minutes ago, funkdoc said: yeah, Dutch Mantel was the first one to say it IIRC...if Vince is still in charge then idk if it really means much though The idea of someone going to Disney HR to complain about Vince is amazing, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoS Posted April 30, 2020 Report Share Posted April 30, 2020 Selling PPV and the Network is the only thing Meltzer has reported so far to my knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted April 30, 2020 Report Share Posted April 30, 2020 Yeah, I think Dutch mixed things up when someone told him about WWE trying to sell PPVs to ESPN and other companies. His tweet and the report from last week that "Vince is in fuck it mode" basically started this whole rumor so I don't buy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted April 30, 2020 Report Share Posted April 30, 2020 I don't know if I buy it either, but it would explain not making big hires to replace Barrios and Wilson. After getting rid of them and demoting HHH, it would be a logical conclusion that Vince would decide he has no obvious successor and think about cashing out. Doing the releases at a time they are making record profits would also make sense if this was true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted April 30, 2020 Report Share Posted April 30, 2020 Curtis Axel was apparently released. I can't find it on WWE.com though, only newz sites. Edit: WWE Sheet is reporting it. Found the WWE.com link: https://www.wwe.com/article/curtis-axel-released Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert S Posted April 30, 2020 Report Share Posted April 30, 2020 4 hours ago, Loss said: I don't know if I buy it either, but it would explain not making big hires to replace Barrios and Wilson. After getting rid of them and demoting HHH, it would be a logical conclusion that Vince would decide he has no obvious successor and think about cashing out. Doing the releases at a time they are making record profits would also make sense if this was true. I am not saying that I understand super-rich people, but why would someone in his mid 70ies sell the company that both of his kids and his son-in-law work for, with his daughter and his son-in-law being in high-level executive positions, just to have a 10-digit bank account (and not just a 10-digit portfolio)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted April 30, 2020 Report Share Posted April 30, 2020 Because he doesn't trust that they can run it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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