NintendoLogic Posted October 29, 2020 Report Share Posted October 29, 2020 12 hours ago, C.S. said: *and a win for WWE in the Great Copyright Wars of 2020 between Jerry McDevitt and Cody Rhodes Honestly, it's bullshit that either WWE or Cody can claim ownership of Dusty's ideas. There's no good reason for them not to have entered the public domain after his death. Speaking of trademark shenanigans, Brendan Vink got his NXT name this week. Tony Modra was a star player for the Adelaide Crows Australian rules football club during the 90s. Vink is from Adelaide, so it's like if a wrestler from Dallas were given the name Troy Aikman. More importantly, you can't trademark someone's name without their written consent. Needless to say, the real Modra was none too pleased when he found out about it. https://7news.com.au/sport/afl/afl-icon-tony-modra-lashes-out-over-aussie-wwe-wrestlers-disrespectful-act-c-1472889 I hope he knows some good lawyers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovert Posted October 29, 2020 Report Share Posted October 29, 2020 Thanks for sharing. Terry Crews took "Apollo Crews" really positively when Uhaa Nation changed his name. They had a nice back and forth on Twitter about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted October 29, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2020 6 hours ago, NintendoLogic said: Honestly, it's bullshit that either WWE or Cody can claim ownership of Dusty's ideas. There's no good reason for them not to have entered the public domain after his death. You're not wrong, but what would happen then? Would both companies use Halloween Havoc, Starrcade, etc.? And we're not even getting into the NWA, indies, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted October 29, 2020 Report Share Posted October 29, 2020 The most absurd is Cody not being able to write a book about his father because he can't write his name. Total and utter insanity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted October 29, 2020 Report Share Posted October 29, 2020 WWE can't possibly own Dusty's name can they? He used it before ever going to WWE or any company WWE purchased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Thread Killer Posted October 29, 2020 Report Share Posted October 29, 2020 13 minutes ago, sek69 said: WWE can't possibly own Dusty's name can they? He used it before ever going to WWE or any company WWE purchased.  It depends I think. I know New Jack talked about how when he was asked if he wanted to come back for the WWE version of ECW, one of the conditions was that you had to sign the rights away for your name. That’s why after the whole ECW experiment ended a lot of those guys couldn’t use their names anymore on the Indies. I think it’s possible that a lot of talent signed agreements with WWE allowing use of their names in perpetuity in exchange for WWE selling merchandise with their name on it. Of course, you would think that the death of the person would end that agreement, but maybe not. We don’t know what Dusty signed in order to work with Vince. Jim Cornette says Dusty used to say all the time that Vince was lucky Dusty never saved his money...implying that Dusty took the job for the money so who knows what he signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted October 29, 2020 Report Share Posted October 29, 2020 I seem to recall CM Punk saying when he was in WWE his contract gave the company rights to his name in terms of exclusive rights to merchandising and whatnot, but that he still had ownership of the name itself.I can't imagine WWE would give special dispensation to someone as....shall we say.....prickly as Punk, so if they really had Dusty over a barrel like that it makes it even more sad (and kind of explains why Cody is so hellbent on getting his IP back). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted October 29, 2020 Report Share Posted October 29, 2020 Doesn't Samoa Joe own the rights to his name as well? Might be that it became a more widespread thing after Dusty's passing? No idea. Still it fucking sucks that they got such a chokehold over a person's goddamn name. Â In other news, people turned in to see NXT yesterday. Who knew that writing a fun and fresh show with nice ideas could lead to good things? ALSO: Shotzi Blackheart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted October 29, 2020 Report Share Posted October 29, 2020 Shotzi can def run me over with her tank anytime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted October 29, 2020 Report Share Posted October 29, 2020 AEW still won 18-49. Looks like WCW nostalgia is the key to killing it with the boomers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted October 29, 2020 Report Share Posted October 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, NintendoLogic said: AEW still won 18-49. Looks like WCW nostalgia is the key to killing it with the boomers. It actually was the better show IMO at least, but yeah I'm sure the nostalgia was the big draw here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 It did decent numbers with other demos too! Nostalgia + Shotzi + actual thought behind segments = good stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoS Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 Strictly only decent. Less than it should have done frankly. It was also basically a PPV-themed show against a throwaway transitory Dynamite episode. But it was actually great, unlike most WWE PPVs where you have to pick and choose what to watch. Reminded me of old NXT Takeovers. The losing the money demo to AEW is a problem bigger than NXT. There have been times when Dynamite has done better numbers in a subset of the target demo (in 18-34) than Raw, which should absolutely not happen. WWE certainly has an older people problem. People rail on NBA for reclining ratings, but it is an institution that has actually managed to do a good job finding younger fans. WWE has not been able to do that. 2 minutes ago, KawadaSmile said:  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dav'oh Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 On 10/29/2020 at 11:31 PM, NintendoLogic said: Brendan Vink got his NXT name this week So Vince dropped the Antonio from Cesaro's name because he didn't want people calling him Tony, and I'm 10,379 miles from Vince and I know that, yet the people working for Vince still give Vink the name Tony? Also, (the real) Tony Modra was, literally, a spectacular high-flyer, which I don't believe Vink is.   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted November 2, 2020 Report Share Posted November 2, 2020 I have no idea how this game is played but this dude jumped so high he drove his knee to the back of someone's neck. Impressive, indeed. Apparently that wasn't a foul, either! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted November 2, 2020 Report Share Posted November 2, 2020 The act of jumping on another player's back to make a catch (mark) is known as a spectacular mark (speckie for short). In fact, the AFL has its own MOTY: Mark of the Year. Note that I didn't know any of this until a week ago. As for the counterfeit Modra, he looks like his head was photoshopped onto someone else's body in his Twitter profile pic. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Redman Posted November 3, 2020 Report Share Posted November 3, 2020 I'm glad you guys are enjoying Aussie Rules. You are indeed free to whack your knee into the back of someone's neck to catch the ball to your heart's desire. All this footy stuff reminds me that I'm so glad I don't watch NXT any more, because from the day Daniel Vidot debuts on TV and they call him a "rugby player" I would be twitching uncontrollably on a weekly basis. (Vidot played rugby league, which is a different sport to rugby union and isn't shortened to "rugby" in the same way.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted November 3, 2020 Report Share Posted November 3, 2020 Aussie Rules was always my go to 2am TV appointment viewing. Also apparently the real Tony Modra is none to happy over these developments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Redman Posted November 3, 2020 Report Share Posted November 3, 2020 I don't know why they didn't do the old "combine the names of two famous players" trick, but maybe they didn't think a retired Australian footballer was big enough to worry about legally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoS Posted November 3, 2020 Report Share Posted November 3, 2020 At the risk of sounding like a total simp mark, I am happy WWE butchered Aussie rules only cuz it got Stacey to post here multiple times to respond to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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