cm funk Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 I don't even remember Alexa's alleged "reign of terror" or what show she was on. I assume it didn't bother me that much or I would, because I wasn't totally checked out on the product in 2017 like I am now. I always thought Alexa was a pretty good heel and decent in the ring, definitely wasn't bad, but I also followed her since NXT and saw her steady improvement She hasn't been as good since all the injuries (and concussions) started piling up, which I think is why they had her in a tag team with Cross for so long and now she almost never wrestles I haven't watched much of the stuff with her, Orton and Fiend because based on everything I hear and read it's awful, and from the looks of it it wouldn't appeal to me, so I can't really comment on it other than the little I have seen kinda sucks. Which is weird because in an alternate universe you could have Wyatt as a Sullivan type, Bliss as Fallen Angel and he could reassemble a new Wyatt Family. Even a longterm story there with Orton. Cut out some of the more hokey stuff and I think it could all work, but WWE creative is just so bad right now. Unless it's Reigns or Bryan essentially booking themselves on SD they fuck up everything Gillberg in 2021? Seriously? It's incredible how creatively bankrupt they are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blehschmidt Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 3 hours ago, cm funk said: Which is weird because in an alternate universe you could have Wyatt as a Sullivan type, Bliss as Fallen Angel and he could reassemble a new Wyatt Family. Even a longterm story there with Orton. Cut out some of the more hokey stuff and I think it could all work, but WWE creative is just so bad right now. This is the part that really gets me. When the Wyatt Family first started and they were doing like a Southern backwoods Jim Jones thing with him, I thought there was so much potential with that gimmick. All kinds of potential angles with him trying to recruit and indoctrinate people. Followers could easily be swapped in and out to freshen things up. Etc. Now we have somehow gone from that, to dreadlocked supernatural murder clown, and I apparently missed the explanation (I know there probably wasn't one) on how that happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 26 minutes ago, Blehschmidt said: When the Wyatt Family first started and they were doing like a Southern backwoods Jim Jones thing with him, I thought there was so much potential with that gimmick. All kinds of potential angles with him trying to recruit and indoctrinate people. Followers could easily be swapped in and out to freshen things up. Etc. I don't remember what year that was when they debuted, I know I wasn't watching the product back then and only following from afar, but there was so much hype about the vignettes and the debut of Bray Wyatt that I had to watch what that was, and yeah, the intro, the music, the fireflies, it was indeed super engaging. The issue very quickly is that there was nothing behind it and that Bray's promos were basically gibberish for the sake of it. He was basically the worst Raven ever, because Raven always had a point behind everything he said and did, his character had depth and was also stepped into the slacker pop-culture of the 90's, his Nest/Flock always was a whole bigger than the sum of its parts. Bray Wyatt was talking about Sister Abigail and acted spooky and.... that's about it. There was never any point to any of his feuds apart from speaking gibberish and acting spooky. The character was all presentation and no depth whatsoever, it's not a wonder all of his feuds ended up huge letdowns if not complete disasters. Not to mention his big matches always under-delivered. Evil Doink was actually more spooky because although he did much less, the mere character work of Matt Borne made it more creepy while having really not much to work with (I mean, he did the Crush angle and the SummerSlam match with Bret and that's about it). Ditto Waylon Mercy, which was basically the Cape Fear version of Razor Ramon, but the fact Dan Spivey was creepy as fuck as himself (really, that face) and the simple character work he did (the shaking of the hand, the demented face when he was beating on someone) was enough. Windham Rotundo looks like a lovable big bear of a guy and despite the awesome production values, just speaking about Sister Abigail and never having *any point* whatsoever just runs short very quickly. The fact he turned into a fourth rate horror movie character and that it's considered "super creative" in the realm of WWE really underlined the vacuity of the whole thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted January 20, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 Basically Bray Wyatt - the person, not the on-screen character - is a con artist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert S Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 7 hours ago, KawadaSmile said: Basically Bray Wyatt - the person, not the on-screen character - is a con artist His grandfather and his uncle were literally making money, so it runs in the family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 Isn't it sad that in the end, I'd rather watch an I.R.S. match ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted January 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 4 hours ago, El-P said: Isn't it sad that in the end, I'd rather watch an I.R.S. match ? Terrible schlock is still more engaging than watching grass grow, which is basically what IRS was the equivalent of Also: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiraffejustin Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 How is the fight pit match? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Evans Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 Not as good as the Riddle match but still pretty good. Love main event Thatcher. NXT on a whole wasn't too bad. Can't wait to see Curt stallion's debut on NXT next week vs Santos Escobar.They also signed three new women to NXT. Elayna Black, Lacey Ryan and Priscilla Kelly. All three are in the Women's dusty classic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazorbladeKiss87 Posted January 22, 2021 Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 You know what offends me most about the Alexa stuff? Beyond the fact that it's downright terrible is the fact that she is really leaning into the "cutsey, little girl" stuff. It's an angle that is casting her to appeal to guys into DDLG, a really horrible "kink" that's gaining popularity nowadays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted January 22, 2021 Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 According to Dave on WOR, the top Mania matches still have not been decided. Maybe I'm wrong but I can't think of a time this late where they had no direction for Mania Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted January 22, 2021 Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 47 minutes ago, Strummer said: According to Dave on WOR, the top Mania matches still have not been decided. Maybe I'm wrong but I can't think of a time this late where they had no direction for Mania It felt like they didn't have a lot of direction going into Mania 9 until mid February past the headline title match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMJ Posted January 22, 2021 Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 I'm just speculating but my guess is they're waiting on 4 questions - Can we get the Rock? Can we get Brock? Can we get Cena? Can Rollins come back for a match? And maybe a 5th in whether they can get Edge. I'm not sure if Rousey is ever coming back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirEdger Posted January 22, 2021 Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 Personally, I don't think they'll get the Rock. Brock and Cena are big ifs, but considering that Mania will have a crowd this year, they'd be tempted to bring Brock back. I'm sure that Rollins will be back in time for Mania but I don't know against who you book him now. As for Edge, do we have an update on his injury progress? Apparently, it was going slower than expected. 5 hours ago, Mad Dog said: It felt like they didn't have a lot of direction going into Mania 9 until mid February past the headline title match. That's not very reassuring, considering how that Mania turned out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted January 22, 2021 Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 I think I read that Edge's rehab was not going well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted January 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 Damn I wanted Cesaro vs OTIS and I get Ziggler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 Since Mania was pushed to April 10, it opened up enough space for them to add another PPV. So a lot of what will end up on the WM card will be decided on the February and March PPVs now. But WWE stans will still be out there acting like there's any long term planning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted January 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 Reginald is fucking awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted January 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 SD is so much better than Raw. The sense of progression alone makes it feel like something totally different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, KawadaSmile said: SD is so much better than Raw. The sense of progression alone makes it feel like something totally different. No doubt. SD feels like an entirely different promotion right now. Also Bianca carrying Otis might be one of the most physically impressive feats I've ever seen. Looked like an ant carrying a potato chip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted January 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 Just now, sek69 said: No doubt. SD feels like an entirely different promotion right now. Also Bianca carrying Otis might be one of the most physically impressive feats I've ever seen. Looked like an ant carrying a potato chip. For real. I mean, her doing that wasn't surprising in of itseld, but she made it look absurdly easy. The segment ruled. Heel Bayley has been a joy to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 Remember when we all thought Dom was going to be great when he had those matches with Seth? Then he ran into the black hole of suck and is now Just A Guy. Speaking of, Baron Corbin is like Bray Wyatt without the horror nonsense. Everyone he feuds with ends up coming out of it lesser than they went in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 Pat Buck out here with the 1980s Vince suit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted January 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 I disagree wholeheartedly. Gable's feud with Corbin was the best thing that he had for a while, and it WAS a banger of a feud. This Roman/KO feud reeks of good AE shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 I suppose that's true. Although I could argue there wasn't much further down Shorty G could have gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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