SirEdger Posted August 10, 2021 Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 Both characters are definitely aimed at appealing to a very niche part of the audience that is most definitely not on this board. Personally, I've always liked characters that are outside the box like Alexa's current character but I definitely understand that it can be a massive turnoff for a lot of people. But considering the amount of merch she's been moving in the past few months - and the numerous posts from parents on social media with pics of their little girls dressed like Alexa Bliss and the Lilly doll (hell, even Taker & Michelle McCool's daughter is a huge fan of Alexa), it must be working at some point, thus why they're moving forward with it, even though I think they're moving at snail pace with this. However, the fact that Vince is hoping that Nikki Cross' new superhero character opens doors for merchandise & kids but that she has zero piece of merch released since she debuted the character is so much more puzzling to me than anything else on RAW right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted August 10, 2021 Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 Fiend/Orton getting booed out of the stadium at Mania should have put an end to arguments that there's a silent majority of Fiend superfans who need to be catered to. Having something that appeals to a rabid niche is fine, but not if it's an active turnoff to the audience as a whole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted August 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2021 Sarray vs Dakota Kai is a nice match Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted August 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2021 Holy shit Raquel Gonzales is JACKED. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted August 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2021 Ilja is a good babyface promo and his in-ring presence is off the charts too. One of the best fiery babyfaces around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted August 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2021 Cole's "redesign" feels like X-Pac going from DX to X-Factor but having basically the same attire and same everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted August 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2021 Odyssey Jones feels like he won't get anywhere staying in NXT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted August 11, 2021 Report Share Posted August 11, 2021 PETE DUNNE VS. DRUGANOV TONIGHT! Hell yeah!!! Kyle O'Reilly is dreadful next to Adam Cole. A stammering mess on the mic, no ring presence, no charisma, no personality. Cole is actually a damn good speaker - especially next to KoR - good enough to act in movies, even. I've never been a huge Cole fan, but he brings such a believably to his character that KoR completely lacks. 9 minutes ago, KawadaSmile said: Odyssey Jones feels like he won't get anywhere staying in NXT. Yeah, Bubba, Odyssey definitely feels like one of the few NXT acts who will do even better on the main roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted August 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2021 Get Dragunov and Jones out of NXT, man. Both are way too big for that brand and HHH's awful booking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted August 11, 2021 Report Share Posted August 11, 2021 55 minutes ago, KawadaSmile said: Get Dragunov and Jones out of NXT, man. Both are way too big for that brand and HHH's awful booking. You really think Draguov would do better on the main roster? That seems like a big reach to me, Bubba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted August 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, C.S. said: You really think Draguov would do better on the main roster? That seems like a big reach to me, Bubba. At the very least, he would be on a bigger stage. Dude IS built like an action figure, much like Finn Balor, and is a great promo. His accent wouldn't hinder him, too. He's probably THE "never say die"face of his generation. I mean, even Raw or SD would be a better use of him than NXT UK Odyssey needs a bit of seasoning but a tag with a fellow big guy would do wonders. Doubt they would pull the trigger on him there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirEdger Posted August 11, 2021 Report Share Posted August 11, 2021 I would be stunned if Odyssey Jones doesn't win the Breakout tournament. Especially with Vince's new edict on NXT. As for Dragunov, count me in as one of those who'd love to see him on the main roster. Fairly easy to rally behind someone like Dragunov who has that relentless attitude in the ring and on the mic. Let's hope that the match with WALTER at Takeover 36 will open some eyeballs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted August 11, 2021 Report Share Posted August 11, 2021 I'd love to be wrong, but in a world where we're debating whether Adam Cole (Bay Bay) would do well on the main roster, I don't see how Dragunov has a chance. Just to be clear, I think Dragunov is great, but will Vince, Dunn, or lick-ass Prichard? Doubtful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted August 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2021 Dragunov could work, tho. He's endearing because he gets his ass kicked and never really stays down. It was with this kind of attitude that Jeff Hardy got massively over, it's easy to root for people like him. Cole is the cocky heel who almost never lost despite the size advantage. Not really the same thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted August 11, 2021 Report Share Posted August 11, 2021 Yeah, Dragunov is like the one guy who's WWE "beat the babyface until the crowd rallies behind him" has a chance of working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted August 11, 2021 Report Share Posted August 11, 2021 Difference is, Jeff Hardy is a pretty boy - Dragunov has a face not even a mother could love. Even by the low standards of "wrestling pretty" (Ricky Morton, Tommy Rich, etc.), Dragunov ain't it. I hope I'm wrong and you're right, believe me, because I really like the guy, but we all know how cosmetic WWE is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted August 11, 2021 Report Share Posted August 11, 2021 I mean, Bryan ain't exactly movie star handsome (I'm sure Brie disagrees) and he became a big star. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotJayTabb Posted August 11, 2021 Report Share Posted August 11, 2021 Odyssey Jones is green, but him and Carmelo Hayes are the two clear standouts in the breakout tournament in terms of having something about them. When they introduced the competitors on the ramp, Jones was the one who had the most obvious physical charisma. What they need to be careful of is his presentation. There was a Twitter post by a wrestling site that was rightly called out for being lazy which said "WWE have debuted a new Mark Henry", but WWE didn't help matters by having him win his debut on 205 Live with a World's Strongest Slam in a singlet that looked like it was straight out of Henry's Nation wardrobe. They thankfully changed it for his next match, but they need to be careful they don't make him into Mark Henry's Renegade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted August 11, 2021 Report Share Posted August 11, 2021 Yeah Jones seems like the exact type they want in the new NXT, dude seems to be loaded with charisma and just needs more polish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted August 11, 2021 Report Share Posted August 11, 2021 2 hours ago, sek69 said: I mean, Bryan ain't exactly movie star handsome (I'm sure Brie disagrees) and he became a big star. Don't let the shaggy beard fool you: Bryan is actually a decent looking guy. Dragunov is bowling shoe ugly. And let's not even get started on Ridge Holland and Timothy Thatcher, who look like toothless vagrants and have zero shot of anything on the main roster. I realize I'm being overly harsh, but only to make a point: That's exactly what Vince, Dunn, and Prichard are probably thinking about a lot of these NXT "darlings." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted August 11, 2021 Report Share Posted August 11, 2021 Thatcher seems like the perfect guy to have in NXT to give the noobs someone to work with who knows what he's doing, which appears to be the plan. Holland seems like a decent looking guy, nothing world stopping. His gimmick works for his look, even if it is kind of what an American thinks a British tough guy would dress like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted August 11, 2021 Report Share Posted August 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, sek69 said: Holland seems like a decent looking guy, nothing world stopping. His gimmick works for his look, even if it is kind of what an American thinks a British tough guy would dress like. You mean English tough guys don't look like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotJayTabb Posted August 11, 2021 Report Share Posted August 11, 2021 Ridge Holland is 6ft 1, jacked, with a legitimate sports background who they signed before he was 30 (as I recall, he had to spend a year on the British indies while they sorted his visa). He's exactly the kind of guy they're looking for. Plus he's a perfectly good looking guy, don't think toothless vagrant is a fair description. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted August 11, 2021 Report Share Posted August 11, 2021 1 hour ago, C.S. said: Don't let the shaggy beard fool you: Bryan is actually a decent looking guy. Dragunov is bowling shoe ugly. And let's not even get started on Ridge Holland and Timothy Thatcher, who look like toothless vagrants and have zero shot of anything on the main roster. I realize I'm being overly harsh, but only to make a point: That's exactly what Vince, Dunn, and Prichard are probably thinking about a lot of these NXT "darlings." On the other side of the pillow, how about the women? Because like, they all look good. Sans like maybe Doudrop & even she already got on the main roster & is getting used weekly. So this whole gotta be under 30 & gotta be the size of Zeus, what's the mean for the women? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted August 11, 2021 Report Share Posted August 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Coffey said: On the other side of the pillow, how about the women? Because like, they all look good. Sans like maybe Doudrop & even she already got on the main roster & is getting used weekly. So this whole gotta be under 30 & gotta be the size of Zeus, what's the mean for the women? They may look good by normal person standards, but this is Vince we're talking about. Recall that he was initially hesitant to sign Gail Kim because he couldn't fathom the idea of someone being attracted to an Asian woman. He relented after JR informed him that Asian porn was a thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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