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  1. UPDATE: Firstly, I've made several changes to the key in the first post. I've decided to remove silent filmreel clips, newsreel clips with subtitles, silent newsreel clips and silent newsreel clips with subtitles as footage types from it. From now on, to make things more simple, any filmreel clips I become aware of, regardless of the type, will just be known simply as filmreel clips. Similarly, any newsreel clips I become aware of, regardless of the type, will just be known simply as newsreel clips. As well as that I've actually added a new footage type to the key too: documentary clips. And secondly, with all that in mind, I've removed newsreel clips with subtitles and silent newsreel clips with subtitles from next to Argentina in the list in the first post but left newsreel clips which covers what I took away there. I've removed silent filmreel clips and silent newsreel clips from next to Australia but left filmreel clips and newsreel clips which covers what I took away there. I've added documentary clips next to Austria. And I've removed silent filmreel clips from next to Canada but left filmreel clips which covers what I took away there.
  2. As the title of this topic suggests, I'm attempting to make a list of all the countries that have surviving professional wrestling footage from before the year 1970. I'll be using this post to list every country I come across so it's easier for those interested to locate them. Anytime anything new is added I'll also leave a reply for the same reason. Below is a list of the countries that I know for sure have some existing footage. As well as that, as I go along I'm going to be adding in bold the kind of footage that I'm aware of existing next to each country too as a reference guide. Also above the list is a key explaining what each footage type actually means: Key - documentary clips = highlights recorded specifically for a documentary. - filmreel clips = raw footage highlights recorded on film. - newsreel clips = news highlights recorded on film. - television = broadcast television footage. List Of Countries With Surviving Pre-1970 Pro-Wrestling Footage - Argentina (newsreel clips). - Australia (filmreel clips / newsreel clips / television). - Austria (documentary clips / newsreel clips). - Belgium. - Bolivia. - Brazil (newsreel clips). - Canada (filmreel clips / television). - Colombia. - Czechoslovakia. - Denmark. - Finland. - France. - Germany. - Greece. - Ireland. - Italy. - Japan. - Mexico. - New Zealand. - Rhodesia. - Russia. - South Africa. - Spain (newsreel clips). - Switzerland. - United Kingdom. - United States. If anyone knows of any countries or surviving footage I'm missing from the list then please let me know!
  3. Funny how it wasn't that long ago many of us fans didn't even know French Catch was a thing, let alone that the French were so good at it. It seems European wrestling was well ahead of the pack when it comes to innovations in the industry.
  4. I haven't actually had a chance to have a proper look at it myself yet but here's all the pre-1970 footage I'm aware of from Belgium (credit Phil Lions): (01) Charles Rigoulot -vs- ??? (1943). LINK - https://www.rtve.es/filmoteca/no-do/not-31/1467406/ (wrestling footage begins at 4:04). (02) Stan Karolyi -vs- Albert Arnaud (1944). LINK - https://www.rtve.es/filmoteca/no-do/not-60/1468400/ (wrestling footage begins at 4:20). (03) ??? -vs- ??? (1944). LINK - https://www.rtve.es/filmoteca/no-do/not-88/1468658/ (wrestling footage begins at 2:38).
  5. UPDATE: The newest addition to the list in the first post is Belgium.
  6. UPDATE: Several updates actually. Firstly, I've removed filmreel clips from next to Austria in the list of countries in the first post. I'd put in error that there is that type of Austrian footage in existence, technically there is, but the footage is of shoot-wrestling which doesn't fit the criteria of this topic, hence why I've removed it. Secondly, a board member thought it would be a good idea for me to explain what each type of surviving footage actually means since I'll be adding those next to each country in the list too as I go along, and since not everybody knows what, for example, the difference between a filmreel and a newsreel is, so, I've put a key above the list which hopefully will do just that. And lastly, the latest addition to the list in the first post is Denmark.
  7. Okay so basically I wanna attempt to put together a master list of all existing pre-1970 footage from various promotions, I wanna cover WWWF, CWC, EMLL, JWA and tons of other places like Fred Kohlers Chicago territory and the IWE, I've decided to place all updates here in this post so the listings are easier for everyone to locate, I'll still be posting the normal way too so whenever anything new is added to the list people will know. CAPITOL WRESTLING CORPORATION (1953 - 1963). 1958 1) Johnny Valentine interview (Wrestling From Capital Arena - June 12th, 1958 - Wrestling's Greatest Matches: "The Golden Era"). 2) Fabulous Kangaroos interview (Wrestling From Capital Arena - June 12th, 1958 - Wrestling's Greatest Villains: "The Golden Era"). 3) Bobby Davis interview (Wrestling From Capital Arena - June 12th, 1958). 4) Arnold Skaaland interview (Wrestling From Capital Arena - June 12th, 1958). 5) Chief Big Heart & Chief Kit Fox interview (Wrestling From Capital Arena - June 12th, 1958). 6) Jerry Graham & Eddie Graham -vs- Luis Martinez & Buddy Rosen (Wrestling From Capital Arena - July 10th, 1958 - 2/3 Falls Match). MISC 1) Ricki Starr -vs- Karl Von Hess (Wrestling From Capital Arena - Wrestling's Greatest Heroes: "The Golden Era"). 2) Eddie Graham & Jerry Graham interview (Wrestling From Capital Arena - Wrestling's Greatest Villains: "The Golden Era"). World Wide Wrestling Federation (1963 - 1969). 1965 Heavyweight Wrestling (May 9th, 1965). 1) Bill Watts -vs- Tomas Marin. 2) Chief Big Heart -vs- Tony Newberry. 3) Argentina Apollo -vs- Bob Boyer. 4) Chief White Owl -vs- Steve Stanlee. 1966 Heavyweight Wrestling (January 6th, 1966). 1) Antonio Pugliese & Arnold Skaaland -vs- Angelo Savoldi & Tony Altimore (2/3 Falls Match). 2) The Beast -vs- Pete Sanchez. 3) Ronnie Etchison -vs- Smasher Sloan. Heavyweight Wrestling (January 13th, 1966). 1) Curtis Iaukea -vs- Steve Stanlee. 2) Tomas Marin -vs- Hector Serrano (2/3 Falls Match). 3) Antonio Pugliese -vs- Tony Altomare. 4) Tony Altomare & Tarzan Tyler interview. Heavyweight Wrestling (January 20th, 1966 - mislabelled December 2nd, 1965). 1) Tarzan Tyler -vs- Pedro Rodriguez. 2) Smasher Sloan -vs- Tomas Marin. 3) Angelo Savoldi -vs- Hector Sarrano. 4) Miguel Perez -vs- Tony Newberry. ITV Wrestling (1955 - 1969). 1961 1) Len Wilding -vs- Jack Cunningham (ITV Wrestling - October 28th, 1961). 2) Ernie Riley -vs- Albert Wall (ITV Wrestling - November 25th, 1961). 1962 The All Star Afternoon (May 5th, 1962). 1) Billy Howes -vs- Jacques Lageott. 2) Jackie Pallo -vs- Mick McManus. 1964 1) Ricky Star -vs- Pedro LaChapelli (ITV Wrestling - February 5th, 1964 - The Final Bell). 1965 1) Jimmy Savile -vs- Jim Lewis (July 13th, 1965 - The Best Of ITV Wrestling). NOTE: The above match didn't actually air on ITV, it was taped for a 1965 BBC documentary dedicated to Savile, I've included it here because it was featured as a DVD extra on The Best Of ITV Wrestling. 1967 1) Alan Miquet -vs- Tony Borg (ITV Wrestling - October 18th, 1967). 2) Honey Boy Zimba -vs- Don Steadman (ITV Wrestling - October 18th, 1967). 1969 1) Pancho Zapatta -vs- Jeff Kaye (ITV Wrestling - May 7th, 1969 - The Final Bell). 2) Julien Morice -vs- Johnny Williams (ITV Wrestling - September 24th, 1969). MISC 4) Peter Szakacs -vs- Len Hurst (Late 1960s). 5) Tibor Szakacs -vs- Ivor Barratt (Late 1960s). Japan Pro Wrestling Alliance (1954 - 1963). 1954 1) Rikidozan & Masahiko Kimura -vs- Ben Sharpe & Mike Sharpe (February 19th, 1954 - Rikidozan: A Look Back Part II/25th Anniversary Of Japanese Wrestling). 2) Rikidozan & Masahiko Kimura -vs- Ben Sharpe & Mike Sharpe (February 21st, 1954 - 2/3 Falls Match - Rikidozan: A Look Back Part I). 3) Rikidozan & Masahiko Kimura -vs- Ben Sharpe & Mike Sharpe (February 27th, 1954). 4) Rikidozan & Masahiko Kimura -vs- Ben Sharpe & Mike Sharpe (March 6th, 1954). 5) Rikidozan & Surugaumi -vs- Hans Schnabel & Lou Newman (August 6th, 1954 - Rikidozan: A Look Back Part I). 6) Rikidozan & Kokichi Endo -vs- Hans Schnabel & Lou Newman (August 8th, 1954). 7) Rikidozan, Kokichi Endo & Oki Shikina -vs- Hans Schnabel, Lou Newman & Bob Olsen (August 25th, 1954). 8) Rikidozan & Kokichi Endo -vs- Hans Schnabel & Lou Newman (September 10th, 1954). 9) Rikidozan & Kokichi Endo -vs- Hans Schnabel & Lou Newman (September 21st, 1954). 10) Rikidozan -vs- Masahiko Kimura (December 22nd, 1954 - 2/3 Falls Match - Rikidozan: A Look Back Part II/25th Anniversary Of Japanese Wrestling). 1955 1) Rikidozan -vs- Toshio Yamaguchi (January 28th, 1955 - mislabelled January 26th, 1955 - 2/3 Falls Match). 2) Rikidozan & Azumafuji -vs- Primo Carnera & Hardy Kruskamp (July 15th, 1955). 3) Azumafuji -vs- Jess Ortega (July 16th, 1955 - Rikidozan: A Look Back Part I). 4) Rikidōzan & Kokichi Endo -vs- Bob Orton & Bud Curtis (July 23rd, 1955 - Rikidozan: A Look Back Part I). 5) Rikidozan & Azumafuji -vs- Jess Ortega & Bud Curtis (July 28th, 1955). 6) Rikidozan -vs- Jess Ortega (September 7th, 1955). 7) Harold Sakata -vs- Kokichi Endo (November 9th, 1955). 8) King Kong Czaya -vs- Dara Singh (November 9th, 1955). 9) Rikidozan & Azumafuji -vs- Tiger Joginder & Syed Saif Shah (November 9th, 1955). 10) Rikidozan & Harold Sakata -vs- Dara Singh & Syed Saif Shah (November 14th, 1955). 11) Rikidozan & Harold Sakata -vs- King Kong Czaya & Tiger Jokinder Singh (November 15th, 1955 - 2/3 Falls Match). 12) Rikidozan -vs- Dara Singh (November 19th, 1955). 13) Rikidozan -vs- King Kong Czaya (November 22nd, 1955). 1957 1) Rikidozan -vs- Bobo Brazil (August 14th, 1957). 2) Rikidozan & Toyonbori -vs- Lord Layton & Bobo Brazil (August 15th, 1957 - 2/3 Falls Match - Rikidozan: A Look Back Part I). 3) Lou Thesz -vs- Rikidozan (October 7th, 1957). 4) Lou Thesz -vs- Rikidozan (October 13th, 1957 - 2/3 Falls Match - Rikidozan: A Look Back Part II/25th Anniversary Of Japanese Wrestling). 1959 1) Rikidozan -vs- Mr. Atomic (June 15th, 1959 - Rikidozan: A Look Back Part I & II). 2) Rikidozan -vs- Jess Ortega (June 15th, 1959 - Rikidozan: A Look Back Part I/25th Anniversary Of Japanese Wrestling/Rikidozan: A Look Back Part II). 1960 1) Rikidozan -vs- Leo Nomellini (May 13th, 1960 - 25th Anniversary Of Japanese Wrestling/Rikidozan: A Look Back Part I). 1961 1) Karl Krauser -vs- Michiaki Yoshimura (May 1st, 1961). 2) Rikidozan -vs- The Great Antonio (June 2nd, 1961 - Rikidozan: A Look Back Part II/25th Anniversary Of Japanese Wrestling). 3) Rikidozan -vs- Mr. X (July 21st, 1961). 1962 1) Rikidozan -vs- Fred Blassie (April 23rd, 1962 - Rikidozan: A Look Back Part I & II/25th Anniversary Of Japanese Wrestling). 2) Rikidozan -vs- Freddie Blassie (Aired on JPWA TV - July 25th, 1962 - Rikidozan: A Look Back Part II). 3) Rikidozan -vs- Art Mahalik (November 30th, 1962 - Rikidozan: A Look Back Part I). 1963 1) Michiaki Yoshimura -vs- Killer Kowalski (March 23rd, 1963). 2) Rikidozan, The Great Togo & Giant Baba -vs- Pat O'Connor, Killer X & Bob Ellis (March 23rd, 1963). 3) Kokichi Endo -vs- Sandor Szabo (March 24th, 1963). 4) Killer Kowalski -vs- Giant Baba (March 24th, 1963). 5) Rikidozan -vs- Haystack Calhoun (March 24th, 1963). 6) The Great Togo -vs- Sandor Szabo (March 27th, 1963). 7) Pat O'Connor -vs- Michiaki Yoshimura (March 27th, 1963). 8) Rikidozan, Toyonbori & Giant Baba -vs- Killer Kowalski, Killer X & Gino Marella (March 27th, 1963). 9) Toyonbori -vs- Gino Marella (March 28th, 1963). 10) Rikidozan & Giant Baba -vs- Killer Kowalski & Pat O'Connor (March 28th, 1963). 11) Killer X -vs- Kintaro Ohki (April 11th, 1963). 12) Haystack Calhoun -vs- Fred Atkins (April 12th, 1963). 13) Giant Baba -vs- Pat O'Connor (April 12th, 1963). 14) Gino Marella -vs- Bob Ellis (April 13th, 1963). 15) Mammoth Suzuki -vs- Fred Atkins (April 15th, 1963). 16) Michiaki Yoshimura -vs- Killer X (April 17th, 1963). 17) Rikidozan -vs- Haystack Calhoun (April 17th, 1963). 18) Gino Marella -vs- Giant Baba (April 23rd, 1963). 19) Rikidozan, The Great Togo & Michiaki Yoshimura -vs- Haystack Calhoun, Killer Kowalski & Killer X (April 23rd, 1963). 20) Rikidozan -vs- Pat O'Connor (April 24th, 1963). 21) Toyonbori -vs- Frank Townsend (May 5th, 1963). 22) The Great Togo & Michiaki Yoshimura -vs- Gino Marella & Killer Kowalski (May 5th, 1963). 23) Rikidozan & Toyonobori -vs- Killer Kowalski & Fred Atkins (May 6th, 1963). 24) Haystack Calhoun -vs- Frank Townsend (May 7th, 1963). 25) The Great Togo & Toyonobori -vs- Frank Townsend & Fred Atkins (May 17th, 1963). 26) Rikidozan -vs- Killer Kowalski (May 17th, 1963). 27) Rikidozan -vs- The Destroyer December 2nd, 1963). Japanese Wrestling Association (1964 - 1969). 1964 1) The Destroyer, Bill Dromo & Kurt Von Stroheim -vs- Toyonobori, Giant Baba & Michiaki Yoshimura (December 1st, 1964). 1965 1) Toyonobori -vs- The Destroyer (February 26th, 1965). 1966 1) Giant Baba -vs- Fritz Von Erich (December 3rd, 1966). 1967 1) Giant Baba -vs- Bruno Sammartino (March 2nd, 1967). 2) Kintaro Ohki & Michiaki Yoshimura -vs- Buddy Austin & Hans Schmidt (March 7th, 1967). 3) Giant Baba -vs- Bruno Sammartino (March, 7th, 1967 - 2/3 Falls Match - 25th Anniversary Of Japanese Wrestling). 4) Giant Baba -vs- Gene Kiniski (August 14th, 1967). 5) Antonio Inoki & Michiaki Yoshimura -vs- Baron Scicluna & Victor Rivera (December 6th, 1967 - 2/3 Falls Match). 6) Giant Baba -vs- Crusher Lisowski (December 6th, 1967 - 2/3 Falls Match). 1968 1) Giant Baba -vs- Crusher Lisowski (January 3rd, 1968 - 25th Anniversary Of Japanese Wrestling). 2) Giant Baba -vs- Dick The Bruiser (February 28th, 1968 - 25th Anniversary Of Japanese Wrestling). 3) Bobo Brazil -vs- Giant Baba (June 25th, 1968). 4) Giant Baba -vs- Bobo Brazil (June 27th, 1968 - 25th Anniversary Of Japanese Wrestling). 5) Giant Baba -vs- Bruno Sammartino (August 7th, 1968 - 2/3 Falls Match). 1969 1) Giant Baba -vs- The Destroyer (March 5th, 1969 - 2/3 Falls Match). 2) Kintaro Ohki -vs- Tom Andrews (April 5th, 1969 - mislabelled April 6th, 1969). 3) Giant Baba & Kintaro Ohki -vs- Bobo Brazil & Chris Markoff (April 16th, 1969). 4) Antonio Inoki -vs- Chris Markoff (May 16th, 1969 - 25th Anniversary Of Japanese Wrestling). 5) Giant Baba & Antonio Inoki -vs- Crusher Lisowski & Dick The Bruiser (August 13th, 1969). 6) Antonio Inoki -vs- Dory Funk Jr (December 2nd, 1969 - 2/3 Falls Match). 7) Giant Baba -vs- Dory Funk Jr (December 3rd, 1969). 8) Giant Baba -vs- Fritz Von Erich (Aired on JWA TV - December 19th, 1969 - 2/3 Falls Match). International Wrestling Enterprise (1966 - 1969). 1969 1) Sano Asatarou -vs- Tosuke Fujii (October 29th 1969 - IWE Box Set 1). 2) Takeshi Oiso -vs- Tetunosuke Daigo (October 29th, 1969 - IWE Box Set 1). 3) The Great Kusatsu, Thunder Sugiyama & Toyonbori -vs- Buddy Colt, Gorgeous George Jr & Gordon Nelson (October 29th, 1969 - IWE Box Set 1). 4) Sheik El Mansouri & Emir El Mansouri -vs- The Great Kusatsu & Thunder Sugiyama (December 5th, 1969 - IWE Commercial VHS 6/IWE Box Set 1). 5) Strong Kobayashi -vs- Bruno Erlington (December 5th, 1969 - IWE Box Set 1). 6) Toyonbori & Tadaharu Tanaka -vs- Gordon Nelson & Ian Campbell (December 5th, 1969 - 2/3 Falls Match - IWE Box Set 1).
  8. UPDATE: I've added newsreel clips next to Australia in the list in the first post.
  9. UPDATE: The latest additions to the list in the first post are Bolivia and Colombia. Also I've removed Sweden from the list. The footage that I was told is Swedish is actually Finnish so Sweden no longer fits the criteria of the topic.
  10. UPDATE: I've made a change next to Argentina in the list of countries in the first post. I'd put in error that there are survivng filmreel clips, it's actually newsreel clips that I'm aware of existing.
  11. Thanks for the info OJ. I've now added newsreel clips next to Spain in the list of countries in the first post.
  12. I never actually thought of searching for film archives from each country, that's a great idea! Who knows what could be unearthed by doing that?!
  13. Wow! Thanks for posting this Matt. I'm fairly sure the World Championship Wrestling stuff is already out there although I could be wrong. The other stuff pre-dates WCW though, there are several of those matches out there already too but not all of them that I'm aware of. I've got a contact in Australia who may be able to help us, leave it with me.
  14. legace

    French catch

    Interesting, hopefully more information will become available in due time! It would be nice to know exactly who was promoting which matches at a particular time.
  15. I actually noticed that myself. On that same video in the comments section someone is claiming that year is wrong too and that it's actually from 1971 so I dunno which is the correct year. You're very much welcome!
  16. UPDATE: I've decided to remove Iraq from the list of countries in the first post. I believe the three matches that are known to exist that I originally thought were from the late 1960s are more likely from the very early 1970s therefore they don't actually fit the criteria of this topic.
  17. legace

    French catch

    Okay so am I right in thinking that regardless of which promotion provided the matches, the TV show was always simply known as "Catch"?
  18. legace

    French catch

    Excellent work here mate! Okay so do we know what years the four promotions ran from and till? I was able to find information on the Fédération Française de Catch Professionnel which said the company ran from 1933-1989 and that it was restarted in 2006, dunno how accurate that is though. Was there only one television slot? Maybe it was like how World Championship Wrestling on TBS was shown, as in WCW was the shows name regardless of whether GCW, WWF or JCP had the contract, or like how World Of Sport/ITV Wrestling was run with the name being the same regardless of whether Joint Promotions, ASW or WWF was shown?
  19. Yeah I've been told before that there was lucha libre on TV outside of Mexico City pre-1970, I don't know how long it lasted for though. It was shown in Los Angeles in the 1960s also. Still it's heartening to know that some TV from that period does exist.
  20. That's pretty cool, I didn't know that. Still I wouldn't count it as a proper match though since it isn't part of an actual show or anything in the traditional sense.
  21. UPDATE: While I'd known for a while that lucha libre footage from before the year 1970 existed, I wasn't 100% sure or not if there are only clips floating around or actual TV footage, however, last night whilst browsing YouTube I came across this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyMGlyMgSyQ&fbclid=IwAR3K3vjljnhI4f8QMhxoImZGQJVqqjTgEf99oqtA8aajpxu_yKpRP7vVdMQ It's Rene Guajardo & Espanto Segundo -vs- Black Shadow & Rolando Vera from 1966. It's joined-in-progress but has the last seven minutes of the match without interruption and appears to have been taken from a TV show. This is the most complete pre-1970 lucha footage I've ever seen!
  22. Yes there is some footage, this channel has some, if not most of what's available: https://www.youtube.com/user/axebaker/videos
  23. I've only seen one African video sadly. I linked it a few posts up.
  24. Okay thank you very much for that information mate. I found some newsreel footage from New Zealand yesterday but nothing from TV and after what you've said here it's very doubtful there is any.
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