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I dont see this with my watching at all. So many guys wrestle strong style in Japan. Loads. A trend lasts 2-5 years. Strong style has lasted over 30. It's not a trend. It's growing in Japan. It's growing in Europe. Why do you think it's dead in Japan? What have you watched in Japan to give you that impression? Just curious , no intentions here. It's definitely not growing in Japan. I'd say Shibata is like the only active major player who still wrestles "strong style". Umm. I am just curious to what you been watching? Have been watching anything in the tag league this year? or the way Evil , Ishii , Kyle o Riley , Nagata , Kojima are working this style in a lot of the matches , juice robinsons work is becoming very much in this mold , the Never Open title Has been positioned around and the matches have been worked in this style for about two years now. Its dead in Japan? To the fans? The fans don't like it? Explain how they go nuts for the Shibata worked strong style match? I haven't watched the tag league but I've watched plenty of New Japan matches from this year. I'll give you Nagata, I'd say he worked more of a "strong style" than any of the other guys you mentioned. But in my opinion, guys like Ishii and Evil fit more into the "King's Road" style of offense. I don't know. It's all so bastardized now. You would be amazed how Juice is evolving into this style , he is becoming very similar to what Strong Style is. Evil is also using this in most matches , and I forgot that Makabe is doing it , they work matches in this style. oh jesus and Goto. Goto been doing it for years. It's a style guys. Matches are worked in this style. Is it just not an accepted Style?

That's an awesome answer! Thank you. I appreciate that. I agree with you on everything you said. Now. Strong style Is a Style of professional wrestling heavy in strikes, kicks, punches, etc. How is this not being considered a style? This is a style. Is it not? Am I missing something? Can someone tell me what I am missing? Now. Is a bias towards Strong Style existing here? Nobody is stepping up and answering that question specifically. Could someone indulge me please.

i would say WWE uses the Style Of Strong , yes. WWE is starting to use it and it's becoming part of the production , part of the wresting , so I would consider it Strong Style in many matches that are worked , so on one branch of the production , WWE is most defiantly Strong Style. Strong Style is a style of wrestling. If it's a style that has been created in the wrestling world , how is NOT a style? Its just not being excepted is it?

I dont see this with my watching at all. So many guys wrestle strong style in Japan. Loads. A trend lasts 2-5 years. Strong style has lasted over 30. It's not a trend. It's growing in Japan. It's growing in Europe. Why do you think it's dead in Japan? What have you watched in Japan to give you that impression? Just curious , no intentions here. It's definitely not growing in Japan. I'd say Shibata is like the only active major player who still wrestles "strong style". Umm. I am just curious to what you been watching? Have been watching anything in the tag league this year? or the way Evil , Ishii , Kyle o Riley , Nagata , Kojima are working this style in a lot of the matches , juice robinsons work is becoming very much in this mold , the Never Open title Has been positioned around and the matches have been worked in this style for about two years now. Its dead in Japan? To the fans? The fans don't like it? Explain how they go nuts for the Shibata worked strong style match?

I dont see this with my watching at all. So many guys wrestle strong style in Japan. Loads. A trend lasts 2-5 years. Strong style has lasted over 30. It's not a trend. It's growing in Japan. It's growing in Europe. Why do you think it's dead in Japan? What have you watched in Japan to give you that impression? Just curious , no intentions here.

I basically agree with this. It carried the most meaning when it was used to contrast the New Japan style from the All Japan style at a time when those really were different things. But that's been lost, even in New Japan. So it isn't a term that means a lot to me at this point. I agree with alot of that myself , however I can't deny the ever rising use of the term and how it's growing and evolving into something that is impacting the buisness as a whole. I can't deny this is happening. Companies are being created and becoming very successful companies and are Growing massively and they are using this as a legit Style. So my question is. Does a bias exist regarding Strong Style within the Internet wrestling community? Thousands are excepting these terms , but the IWC is not? So now I ask , Has its meaning been lost? Or is it stronger then ever? It's evolved into something that hardcore fans might not like but you can't just dismiss that meaning of the term is trying to come back. Can this be revived? Can it come back for most hardcore fans , or is it dead to them? If it's dead to them , I feel bad because I don't see it as dead to me. I can't just can't do that , I see it growing. I see it flourishing within fans and in venues in Europe and Japan. I can't just dismiss it.

Ok. Instead of using hard hitting to describe a match , would Strong Style be except able? It's a term to describe hard hitting wrestling in another manor , something different then just hard hitting. I am thinking that a very negative cognitive to strong style exits? I am feeling this a lot which is confusing because it's such a over term in Europe and Japan , even Canada actually. Is this an ongoing thing that has always existed? Or I am wrong? Could someone tell me what they think of that?

I was not even aware of this company , that helps a lot actually! Thanks for that. So now we have Progress wrestling using Strong Style to promote its events and wrestlers which is based out of England , and then also this company in USA. So "strong style" is becoming a legit style? No? It's a style of wrestling that is used by wrestlers. It can be used to describe a wrestler , promoter and As a Strong style match? If not , could someone tell me why?

I am understanding that. What is the difference between a company creating the Term "strong style" and another company who created a term to describe the wrestling it presents to its audience? Why can those terms be used to describe something apart from itself but yet the term "strong style " is not except able? Is this a bias? I am genuinely curious to if I have discover a bias towards Strong Style in the wrestling communites online? I think that i have. I would very much like to hear your response to my questions?

Bingo. It's a marketing term. Especially when used by an American indie wrestling promoter. In that scenario it pretty much means "Hey let me call this tournament/match/wrestler Strong Style so the Japanophiles will get hype about it." It's the new version of calling someone a "technical" wrestler (even if they do not wrestle a technical style ala Ted DiBiase) as a code word for "good workrate" So it has not evolved at all? American indie promoter? What promoter was that?

Ok , I understand that , but do you feel that it has evolved outside of New Japan , regardless of how you feel about it? Can it be used by other promotions as a style? Could a wrestler use it ? Could a promotion use it to describe the style of wrestling it presents? Is it possible this has evolved into another entity? Would not every term ever created in professional wrestling be described as a marketing tool? Why subjected to New Japan only? This is all totally subjective? No. Why say Strong Style is used as a "sports entertainment" marking gimmick , but then not say the same about another style employed and pushed on its audience. Is a bias going on here against "stongstyle" ? Just serious questions here , no intentions on my part at all.

Hey , So lots of confusion is going around regarding what Strong Style is? I want to ask everybody , what is your interpretation of Strong Style Wrestling? How would you describe it as a wrestling fan? Is it possible for other promotions and other performers outside of new Japan to use that style or adapt it into the style they create for themselves? What is Strong Style and what does it mean for everybody? Have at it boys and please educate me! I'll be seeing you.

Basially-yes. (though I doubt Hero would even identify as a strong style wrestler since his influences are much more in All Japan/King's Road. unless he went out there and yelled THIS IS STRONG STYLE during the match).Watch the match dumb ass.

Is this normal on this board to have such ignorance? This can't be right? I think I will stop with this thread now and this will be my last comment. You both can bury yourselves as much you like and continue your tirades , I can't and won't be a participant to this anymore. I have a match to review! I got a strong style match in mind. You boys might enjoy it. Check it out.

Is Jerry Lawler vs Bill Dundee strong style? Here's what the J-wiki says about if you're going by what's most visible: "a style of wrestling based on strength (i.e. amateur wrestling and mma influences)" "black shoes black trunks, Inoki and Karl Gotch" " a bunch stuff about Inoki's and New Japan's history" "a passage about shoot style, to which articles in other languages direct to" Yeah. Doesn't quite fit. Have you watched this match yet that your talking about? The ignorance on this is overwhelming! It fits perfectly! This fits the match perfectly! Watch the match your commenting on. You are making yourself look very silly. So Hero is wrong? End is wrong? The commentary in the match was wrong? They call it Strong Style Wrestling in the commentary. What is going on here? How are you so ignorant to this. You have not watched the match.

OK well , I guess I'll do it for you. Strong style. Style of professional wrestling heavy in strikes, kicks, punches, etc. The match described was EXACTLY that. Chris Hero described this match as Strong Style himself. I know you love wrestling and that's awesome but your not an authority on it in anyway. Just like I am not an authority in any way. Apology? It would be nice if you could do that because I didnt deserve that. Cheers. I'll be seeing you.

Tell the board what google says! Can you do that? If you do that I'll let this go. Just go watch the match man , ok. You will see how silly your comments are. It's ok , I am not offended , it's not too late to squash this. I'm willing to get along if you are.

How am I sensitive? I am not kind to ignorance. Ignorance is not tolerated in my world , I'm not sure how I would become the bad guy on this. What did I do wrong here? I made a review , got attacked and told I did it wrong without any merit , so tell me how I am sensitive and what I did wrong here? I am not going to lay down for you guys , I am going to stick up for myself. I am going to defend myself , I am not the type to take ignorance lightly , so if you don't like it then stop being ignorant to me , lots of other people on this board who are easy targets. I'm not one of them , so if you come at me out of ignorance , I will not be nice. Sorry fella.

Oh and also , it would be best to let Tommy End and Chris Hero know that the style they thought they wrestled in this match was wrong. I think they would also like to know what Strong Style is because they also have no idea. Could you educate them as well? They are both under the impression it was Strong Style , but I am sure they would appreciate it if you set them straight. Have you watched the match yet dumb ass? Oh , and add Marty Scurll to that list because he was also under the wrong impression.

good match , I watched this the other day. 4* for me on this one. I am enjoying Joshi as of late and want to watch more of it.

Your hopeless as a human and very ignorant? How have you managed to review matches as long as you have without people falling asleep? How about you go tell Progress Wrestling that they are wrong as well. Could you tell me what Google says when you type in Strong Style? Let everybody know what the Actual meaning of the words is , not what you Think it is. Could you do that for me? Are you sure your ok? Are you threatened that I am reviewing matches? What's your deal dude? Tell me and everybody your angle here? You have some sort of agenda on this. It's ok , I'm game , bring it. I'll keep doing what I'm doing and you keep reviewing stuff the way you do , just because you review a lot of matches doesn't make you an authority on wrestling. Also to be honest dude , your reviews are a little dry , but that's fine , I guess next time you make a review of a match , I'll comment on it and quote your words and pick the review apart. I can do that very easily. I am not going to lay down for you pal. Trust me I'll come at you just as hard , you decided to pick a fight. I'll give you one.

Look up strong style dumb ass and then watch the match.

Strong style was the name of the tournament that this match took place in. It's a term that the company used to describe the style of wrestling that was going on during that tournament. It was the narrative of the tournament , so I used it for the narrative of my match descriptions. Is that ok? Or could you tell me a better way of describing a match you never seen? You would know best. I am sure. Your very creative with your descriptions.