Dylan Waco Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 Discuss Here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted February 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 I'm glad he got nominated because he's very much a guy who gets lost because of where he worked. I have sort of had a love hate relationship with AAA over the last seven or eight years that I've been heavily watching lucha, but Apache is one of those guys who kept me interested in coming back at times where there was little else to care about. Really great old man worker, base, and shockingly explosive offensively for a guy with as many years as he has. In that sense AAA may have even been the best spot for him. Still my favorite stuff of his was working on lucha indie shows when he got to work other old men in unique and fun environments. It's been a while since I"ve watched one of his matches, and I'd be interested in watching some of his singles work. Not someone I have thought about at all for this, but if someone wants to throw together a recommended viewing list I'm open to a late push for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Cooke Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 4/11/00 vs Oscar Sevilla (Billy Boy) 4/18/00 vs Oscar Sevilla (Billy Boy) - One of these is in the rain and they do all of their spots despite the ring being a complete mess 7/1/01 w Arai vs Saito/Horiguchi (Toryumon) He's great in the mixed atomicos matches. The Hustle-3 match is a good version of that match. Most of the 2004/2005 AAA version's are clipped. 2006-2007 feud with Billy Boy has a bull rope match and hair match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cad Posted March 17 Report Share Posted March 17 Small guy, didn't do flips or twists but moved like a cat. He had a really nice plancha suicida and a beautiful straight right that worked as part of a fired up tecnico comeback or a rudo beatdown. His charisma was like that too. Totally believable as a spunky babyface or a little prick. Sounds like an awesome worker, right? The catch with Apache (and there's always a catch) is that if you want an extended look at him in action then you have to watch a bunch of matches that were designed to top out at three stars or so. Matches where all they're doing is playing out some AAA backstage soap opera storyline in the ring for the live crowd, or openers where he and the guys are told to just go out there and warm up the audience. I'd likely have overlooked him if not for a match he had in 1993 when they took the shackles off him and he worked this dramatic, bloody war that showed that he could do big exciting encounters as well. It was just a matter of being booked to. That knowledge helped me appreciate his smaller matches more, once I got that it was the promotion rather than his own abilities setting those limits on him. These are probably the most attention grabbing Gran Apache matches: Gran Apache and Mestizo vs Escudero Rojo and Reyes Veloz (this match sold me on Apache, with parents sending their kids over to kiss his bloody face afterward) Gran Apache and Mestizo vs Escudero Rojo and Reyes Veloz (this time it's an apuestas match and it's still dramatic, but the layout takes away from it a bit) Gran Apache vs Oscar Sevilla (yeah, as mentioned above, the ring is soaked and they still have a fun AAA brawl) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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