shoe Posted July 18, 2016 Report Share Posted July 18, 2016 http://placetobenation.com/this-week-in-wrestling-71716/ Fall 1 Pete and Johnny look at the Coconut Willie/Tiger Conway Jr vs Little Tokyo/Tor Kamata. Is Willie the Ricky Steamboat of midgets? The guys look at the Highspot streaming service and take the tour of School of Morton. It's a cool insight into Ricky. Finally we look at the ROH show and love Dijak/Kincaid. Fall 2 Timothy joins Pete and recap Ultima Lucha night 2. Does Mil Muertes have one of the best punches in wrestling? We start reviewing CWF Mid Atlantic show. Just in time for Weaver Cup. Finally RPW Summer Sizzler tour is reviewed. What the guys liked and didn't like. A certain WTBBP host gets some shade thrown at him for his opinion. Fall 3 Pete and Johnny look at NXT. They disagree about selling in the Nak/Balor match. Then check out the Cruiserweight Classic. They take different sides to Daniel Bryan as a play by play guy. Finally they recap the current episode of RAW. 00:00:30 Fall 1 00:43:20 Fall 2 02:22:44 Fall 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woof Posted July 18, 2016 Report Share Posted July 18, 2016 I love that you guys are gonna start covering CWF-MA. Hopefully this will force me to keep current on it instead of letting a couple of weeks backlog leading to binge catch-up. It's such a breezy little show. I sort of stumbled upon it a little over a year ago when I was looking for a weekly indy to get into that had an old-school feel (I had tried OVW but their in-ring product was just woeful). Took me awhile to get a feel for CWF-MA (they have too many titles floating around) but I feel like I've been rewarded for sticking with it, as their match quality this year has been tremendous. You guys hit it on the head when talking about how some of the guys come off as "trying to be a wrestler", and not in a bad way. It's a promotion that knows what it is: a starting point for young performers who dream of bigger things, or a place where guys who are probably never gonna be big names can still get a chance to do what they love. By accepting that and not acting like the world outside of their building doesn't exist, it lends an air of respectibility to their product. It's nice to see them starting to get some recognition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoe Posted July 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2016 Thanks for the feedback. CWF Mid Atlantic seemed like a promotion that deserved being talked about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyPulis'Cap Posted July 19, 2016 Report Share Posted July 19, 2016 Very enjoyable show as ever this week gentlemen and was good to hear your thoughts on Rev Pro's Summer Sizzler, as I was in attendance two weeks ago. While U was higher on the show than you both - being there live obviously bringing with it an inbuilt bias - I do agree that it wasn't quite up to the standards of the usual big Rev Pro shows that they have at the York Hall. In part I think it's due to them squeezing in an extra show at the venue this year and also moving the High Stakes -card forward to August, whereas in the past it has been later in the year. I think a slight over saturation, but it's still - and again, home country bias coning in - one of my favourite promotions to follow. It's interesting to hear you now adding CWF Atlantic to your review pile - something I might have to check out - and your hopes for it as a good old school wrestling TV show when I think about the fact that last year I really enjoyed the weekly Rev Pro TV show on Youtube, and felt that I enjoyed the product a lot more with this connecting the dots between the big shows. It would e good if they refocussed on putting a weekly show out there again to help storylines along and some of the home grown UK guys get more visibility. On that note, was definitely on Pete's way of thinking with Sha Samuels going over Moose. Live this match was pretty fun, and given the amount of complaints for when big imports go over local guys, it was good that Samuels went over as he's the guy who is the regular. Likewise in the main event, great that they were able to work out with New Japan to where Sabre could go over. You were fearing a ROH style, NJPW win the big matches vibe otherwise. Anyway, keep up the good work guys, get's me through the commute to work every week! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoe Posted July 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2016 Thanks a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luchaundead Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 I don't disagree with RPW putting there guys over it felt to me that Moose isn't a "starting to get your steam back" win as Sha has been really a chicken shit only wins by cheating heel for a long time at this point. I would have like to see Sha build up his credibility a bit more before he's standing toe to toe with Moose but they obviously just didn't have the time. As Moose is gone after this. One question for someone that's actually at the shows, are Redman and Garrett over with the life crowd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyPulis'Cap Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 Yeah agreed, was very shocked when Samuels went over but as you say might as well get the rub off a win over Moose in the very limited time he was around. I've long been annoyed at UK companies in the past putting over the imports all the time so was good to see the reverse even if it was with a character who hasn't done anything at all as a single recently! As for Redman and Garrett, haven't seen them too much live but I wouldn't say they are massively over, mainly as Garrett is quite unknown. I think their rather bland WWE developmental circa 2008 look doesn't help with their perception. Indeed I think it was Pete who said they came across as gym bunnies but Redman is actually a really good technical wrestler when given a chance. If you have the RPW on demand service and go into the old IPW:UK section, he has a hell of a world of sport style match with James mason that you wouldn't think he was capable of. In general I think the tag team division hasn't been booked well and that the revolutionists had the belts way too long. I think Redman and Garrett can get over on their athleticism but if they are going to be faces, then they need to be able to have more defined and relateable personalities. For most of his time Redman, because of his look has been a heel when he has the potential to be a Chris masters style face ie someone that has a bodybuilder look that screams heel but can wrestle well as a face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyPulis'Cap Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 Yeah agreed, was very shocked when Samuels went over but as you say might as well get the rub off a win over Moose in the very limited time he was around. I've long been annoyed at UK companies in the past putting over the imports all the time so was good to see the reverse even if it was with a character who hasn't done anything at all as a single recently! As for Redman and Garrett, haven't seen them too much live but I wouldn't say they are massively over, mainly as Garrett is quite unknown. I think their rather bland WWE developmental circa 2008 look doesn't help with their perception. Indeed I think it was Pete who said they came across as gym bunnies but Redman is actually a really good technical wrestler when given a chance. If you have the RPW on demand service and go into the old IPW:UK section, he has a hell of a world of sport style match with James mason that you wouldn't think he was capable of. In general I think the tag team division hasn't been booked well and that the revolutionists had the belts way too long. I think Redman and Garrett can get over on their athleticism but if they are going to be faces, then they need to be able to have more defined and relateable personalities. For most of his time Redman, because of his look has been a heel when he has the potential to be a Chris masters style face ie someone that has a bodybuilder look that screams heel but can wrestle well as a face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBadMick Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 I thought Johnny questioning the importance placed on selling in PWO was very interesting..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luchaundead Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 TP Cap, I've seen people online some what in to Garrett for awhile based mostly on his cool flips but to the broader RPW fans he's still a bit of an unknown? It really is odd to me that Redman failed in NXT as he really does fit the model of what they were looking for but I guess it's not that way anymore. I get the attacks on UK companies for putting over imports more strongly than local guys but I think when you have ever title on a strong Euro wrestler it's not a big deal anymore. I haven't dipped to deeply into it but the RPW on demand includes the IPW:UK stuff? I ask because I was looking into the IPW:UK on demand service earlier today seems odd it would be on both what's the break down? are only old IPW:UK shows on RPW on demand while the new stuff is on the IPW:UK service? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyPulis'Cap Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 I haven't dipped to deeply into it but the RPW on demand includes the IPW:UK stuff? I ask because I was looking into the IPW:UK on demand service earlier today seems odd it would be on both what's the break down? are only old IPW:UK shows on RPW on demand while the new stuff is on the IPW:UK service? Sort of - it's just a selection, about 15 or so shows I think. Andy Quildan, who is the promoter of RPW used to do the same role at IPW:UK until he split off and wanted to do his own thing. IPW:UK stopped running for a little bit before the owner restarted it a couple of years ago. Basically, it's not the entire IPW:UK archive on RPW on demand, just a small selection, but Quildan must have some ownership of some the footage. They are in the 'Before the Revolution' section from I think 2009-2011/12 period. I'd recommend dipping into it at some point. It's the not the scale/production of the RPW stuff but some hidden gems like a really good Danielson/PAC match, Leaders of the New School tags and some Dave Mastiff vs NOAH guys. As for the IPW:UK demand service, not sure if it doubles up with what's on RPW on demand but think they'll have stuff that predates that - the 2006-2009 shows and then all the modern releases. I don't have that service, but presume that's where the majority of the back catalogue is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luchaundead Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 Okay thanks I had seen a bit of IPW:UK stuff when it was happening so I know it's quality I'm not hoping to see this Chris Brookes v Hero match so I was thinking if it's going to show up on RPW on demand that would be great because I already have it looks like not so I'll be looking to sub at least a month to IPW:UK service, huzzah to too many streaming services!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luchaundead Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 I thought Johnny questioning the importance placed on selling in PWO was very interesting..... I feel like such a bad podcaster but I've been so far behind I still haven't actually listened to the 1st and 2nd fall but I look forward to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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