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I was working on something today that seems related to the discussion in this thread, so I thought I would post it here. As part of my Kickstarter book project, I've been working on mapping WWWF/WWF/WWE events to the major media markets surrounding them. Today, I went through about 16,000 WWF events from 1970-2011 from TheHistoryofWWE and with the help of some zipcode databases and geo-coding tools, I was able to pull latitude/longitude addresses for the majority of events. Then, using a "Spherical Law of Cosines" formula, I calculated the approximate distance between each event and the top 30 US Television Markets. Notes on my methodology (a) I used a modern television market list. 25 years ago, I imagine there are some differences. If someone finds/has a good list of major television marketplaces in 1985, please share it with me. ( Graham's site often lists events that weren't WWF promoted, but maybe had a single WWF titleholder on them. For the most part, I ignored these events and did not count them as WWF events. So, I excluded a lot of Pittsburgh 1970-1974, Canada 1976-1987, St Louis 1974-1980 and FL results (Tampa/Orlando/Miami) 1973-1980. Some of these events probably should have counted, but if they didn't have a WWF in the name and the workers seemed to be mostly non-core WWF people, I didn't include them. © Each event was mapped to: (i) one of the top 30 markets if it was within a set radius (ii) Canada, if in Canada (iii) international (if else). (d) Radius was set at 75 miles. In reality, it might be appropriate for some markets to have wide radius and others more narrow, but for the sake of this, I just kept it steady at an arbitrary 75 miles. (e) Includes events with no results/cancelled events. I could refine this to other events with results, but that would exclude some of the events that did take place and probably not sway the overall results much. Average number of events per year Radius 70-82 83-91 92-11 % of TTL Other US City PRE DURING POST PRE DURING POST Other US city 69 222 117 21% 38% 38% NYC 65 43 15 20% 7% 5% BOSTON 65 28 11 20% 5% 4% PHILADELPHIA 56 17 8 17% 3% 3% INT'L 0 12 42 0% 2% 14% CANADA 0 49 25 0% 8% 8% PITTSBURGH 20 17 6 6% 3% 2% HARTFORD 20 15 5 6% 3% 2% BALTIMORE 18 14 4 6% 2% 2% WASHINGTON, DC 14 10 3 4% 2% 1% LOS ANGELES 0 13 6 0% 2% 2% DETROIT 0 16 5 0% 3% 2% CHICAGO 0 14 5 0% 2% 2% SAN FRAN 0 10 4 0% 2% 1% CLEVELAND 0 11 3 0% 2% 1% MIAMI 0 11 3 0% 2% 1% ST LOUIS 0 7 2 0% 1% 1% SACRAMENTO 0 6 2 0% 1% 1% SAN DIEGO 0 7 2 0% 1% 1% INDIANAPOLIS 0 6 2 0% 1% 1% DENVER 0 6 2 0% 1% 1% HOUSTON 0 5 2 0% 1% 1% MSP 0 6 1 0% 1% 1% TAMPA 0 4 2 0% 1% 1% PHOENIX 0 5 1 0% 1% 1% NASHVILLE 0 3 2 0% 1% 1% RALEIGH-DURHAM 0 0 3 0% 0% 1% SEATTLE 0 4 1 0% 1% 1% ORLANDO 0 3 2 0% 1% 1% ATLANTA 0 3 1 0% 1% 1% DALLAS-FT. WORTH 0 1 2 0% 0% 1% PORTLAND, OREGON 0 3 0 0% 1% 0% CHARLOTTE 0 1 1 0% 0% 0% I think the Canada number is misleading; they were aligned with Tunney's Ontario promotion prior to 1984, right? However, I didn't call the Ontario promotion WWF in the pre-1984 phase. You can certainly see McMahon breaking into rival's territories when he's running Detroit, Los Angeles, Chicago, San Fran, Cleveland, Miami, St Louis, Indianapolis, Houston, Minneapolis-St Paul, Nasvhille, Atlanta and Charlotte. Meanwhile, the number of shows he ran in his old hotbeds of Greater New York City, Boston, Philly all declined dramatically. As you see in the graph, the % of time spent in major markets actually drops during the expansion, but that's because absolute # of shows went so high. It goes from 79% of shows (261 shows) to 51% of shows (327 shows) from 1983-1991 to 41% (119 shows). -C. Harrington

Maybe it's not as bad as I remember, but I have this vivid memory from this match (when it finished #94 on the WWF DVDVR set) where Schulz absolutely kills himself on that missed big elbow with a dive that just looks painful.

Coming into this conversation many months late, but a lot of what is described might be interested with the ELO Ratings (Chess Algorithm) in Pro Wrestling work that I've been doing. Basically, when two people face off, their scores give us an indication of who "should" win, and therefore you can give more points away during either (a) major events ( when someone substantially performs better than expected. I looked at 115,000 WWF matches here: https://sites.google.com/site/chrisharringt...wf_elo_rankings And just WWF Tag Teams here: https://sites.google.com/site/chrisharringt..._tag_title_data

I've been looking at all of the published results from the Archive 1995 Wrestling Observers. This covers the 1/9/95 to 12/18/95 issues (49 issues). I tried to fix the names and combine the multiple identities, but there's over 6000 names, so at a certain point you just give up. It's an interesting exercise to see what groups were listed the most and how that corresponds. There's a lot of guys who pop up who would later be much bigger stars (Spike Dudley, Crash Holly, Doug Williams, Christopher Daniels) who had appearances in WO that year but didn't make my list here; it's always fun to spot some of their earliest results. After struggling with how to represent the data, I decided to divide the results into "MAJOR" and "OTHER" for each region. For some areas, like Mexico, it's only a sampling of all of the shows. But it's an intriguing look nonetheless.... USA MAJORS: WWF / SMW / WCW / USWA / ECW Tracy Smothers: 179 matches; (21 indy shows) 126 SMW, 32 USWA Buddy Landel: 166 matches; (10 indy shows) 143 SMW, 13 USWA Robert Gibson: 151 matches; (17 indy shows) 114 SMW, 20 USWA Glen Jacobs: 130 matches; (3 indy shows) 37 WWF, 90 SMW Dirty White Boy: 129 matches; (4 indy shows) 125 SMW Boo Bradley: 126 matches; (4 indy shows) 122 SMW Davey Boy Smith: 114 matches; 113 WWF, 1 USWA Owen Hart: 107 matches; 107 WWF Scott Hall: 101 matches; 98 WWF, 3 USWA Bret Hart: 100 matches; 100 WWF Kevin Nash: 97 matches; 97 WWF Savio Vega: 95 matches; 95 WWF Jinsei Shinzaki: 96 matches; (2 indy shows) 94 WWF Sid Vicious: 94 matches; 80 WWF, 14 USWA Chris Candido: 94 matches; (3 indy shows) 70 WWF, 21 SMW Undertaker: 89 matches; 86 WWF, 2 SMW, 1 USWA Tommy Rich: 90 matches; (2 indy shows) 47 SMW, 41 USWA Shawn Michaels: 87 matches; 87 WWF Al Snow: 100 matches; (13 indy shows) 3 WWF, 82 SMW, 2 ECW Tom Prichard: 87 matches; (3 indy shows) 31 WWF, 40 SMW, 10 USWA, 3 ECW Ricky Morton: 122 matches; (39 indy shows) 72 SMW, 11 USWA Billy Gunn: 82 matches; 82 WWF New Jack: 82 matches; (1 indy shows) 65 SMW, 16 ECW Wolfie D: 80 matches; 1 WWF, 6 SMW, 73 USWA Bart Gunn: 80 matches; 80 WWF Mustafa Saed: 80 matches; (1 indy shows) 64 SMW, 15 ECW Jeff Jarrett: 80 matches; (3 indy shows) 74 WWF, 3 USWA Brad Armstrong: 78 matches; (2 indy shows) 62 SMW, 7 WCW, 7 USWA Jamie Dundee: 76 matches; 1 WWF, 6 SMW, 69 USWA Charles Wright: 75 matches; 75 WWF Jimmy Del Ray: 78 matches; (3 indy shows) 25 WWF, 38 SMW, 10 USWA, 2 ECW Lex Luger: 74 matches; 60 WWF, 13 WCW, 1 USWA Sting: 71 matches; 71 WCW Sean Waltman: 70 matches; 70 WWF Bob Holly: 69 matches; 69 WWF Yokozuna: 68 matches; 68 WWF Alex Wright: 68 matches; 68 WCW Bam Bam Bigelow: 70 matches; (2 indy shows) 68 WWF Tatanka: 67 matches; 67 WWF King Mabel: 66 matches; 62 WWF, 4 USWA Booker T: 64 matches; 64 WCW Stevie Ray: 64 matches; 64 WCW Marcus Bagwell: 63 matches; 63 WCW Rikishi: 65 matches; (2 indy shows) 63 WWF Doug Gilbert: 60 matches; 60 USWA Triple H: 59 matches; 51 WWF, 8 WCW Bill Dundee: 76 matches; (17 indy shows) 59 USWA Justin Credible: 59 matches; 59 WWF Henry Godwinn: 59 matches; 59 WWF Killer Kyle: 65 matches; (7 indy shows) 58 SMW Marc Mero: 58 matches; 58 WCW Ron Harris: 56 matches; (1 indy shows) 54 WWF, 1 USWA Arn Anderson: 55 matches; 55 WCW Bob Backlund: 58 matches; (4 indy shows) 53 WWF, 1 USWA Brian Christopher: 54 matches; 54 USWA Jerry Lawler: 54 matches; 13 WWF, 3 SMW, 38 USWA Don Harris: 54 matches; (1 indy shows) 53 WWF Scotty Riggs: 55 matches; (2 indy shows) 1 WWF, 18 WCW, 34 USWA Alundra Blayze: 53 matches; 53 WWF Barry Horowitz: 57 matches; (5 indy shows) 52 WWF Jim Duggan: 53 matches; (3 indy shows) 50 WCW Louie Spicolli: 52 matches; (2 indy shows) 50 WWF Steve Armstrong: 53 matches; (4 indy shows) 35 SMW, 11 WCW, 3 USWA D-Lo Brown: 58 matches; (9 indy shows) 48 SMW, 1 USWA Mikey Whipwreck: 55 matches; (7 indy shows) 48 ECW Bobby Blaze: 54 matches; (6 indy shows) 48 SMW Carl Ouellet: 48 matches; (1 indy shows) 47 WWF Randy Savage: 47 matches; 47 WCW Rocco Rock: 46 matches; 46 ECW Dustin Rhodes: 46 matches; 33 WWF, 13 WCW Sandman: 46 matches; 46 ECW Steve Richards: 55 matches; (10 indy shows) 45 ECW King Kong Bundy: 48 matches; (3 indy shows) 45 WWF Johnny Grunge: 45 matches; 45 ECW Miss Texas: 44 matches; 44 USWA Raven: 65 matches; (21 indy shows) 1 USWA, 43 ECW Bobby Eaton: 43 matches; 43 WCW Steven Dunn: 47 matches; (4 indy shows) 16 WWF, 27 USWA Jerry Saggs: 42 matches; 42 WCW Gary Wolfe: 42 matches; 42 ECW Anthony Durante: 42 matches; 42 ECW Hack Myers: 45 matches; (3 indy shows) 42 ECW Brian Knobbs: 42 matches; 42 WCW Axl Rotten: 52 matches; (11 indy shows) 20 USWA, 21 ECW Terry Gordy: 45 matches; (4 indy shows) 36 SMW, 5 USWA Rob Kellum: 45 matches; (4 indy shows) 1 WWF, 1 WCW, 39 USWA Tommy Dreamer: 44 matches; (4 indy shows) 40 ECW John Tenta: 40 matches; 40 WCW Adam Bomb: 44 matches; (4 indy shows) 40 WWF OTHER USA/CANADA: Italian Stallion: 66 matches; (66 indy shows) Flash Flanagan: 73 matches; (64 indy shows) George South: 74 matches; (63 indy shows) Terry Austin: 63 matches; (63 indy shows) Austin Steele: 62 matches; (62 indy shows) Doink the Clown: 97 matches; (59 indy shows) Colorado Kid: 58 matches; (58 indy shows) Johnny Gunn: 56 matches; (56 indy shows) Russian Assassin: 55 matches; (55 indy shows) Mike Samples: 55 matches; (54 indy shows) Star Ryder: 51 matches; (51 indy shows) Jimmy Sharpe: 51 matches; (51 indy shows) Ken Arden: 52 matches; (50 indy shows) Carolina Dreamer: 46 matches; (46 indy shows) Bonecrusher Lewis: 46 matches; (46 indy shows) Phantom Sorrow: 45 matches; (45 indy shows) Outpatient: 43 matches; (43 indy shows) Madd Maxine: 41 matches; (41 indy shows) Mark Pain: 40 matches; (40 indy shows) Randy Sledge: 40 matches; (40 indy shows) Phantom Tragedy: 40 matches; (40 indy shows) Ricky Morton: 122 matches; (39 indy shows) Chuck Colt: 39 matches; (39 indy shows) Jim Neidhart: 41 matches; (38 indy shows) Sam Houston: 37 matches; (37 indy shows) Southern Rocker: 37 matches; (37 indy shows) Tyrone Knox: 37 matches; (37 indy shows) Ric Burton: 37 matches; (37 indy shows) Flaming Youth: 36 matches; (36 indy shows) Lee Thomas: 38 matches; (36 indy shows) Virgil: 40 matches; (35 indy shows) Ace Darling: 35 matches; (35 indy shows) Gino Caruso: 33 matches; (33 indy shows) Dick Murdoch: 33 matches; (33 indy shows) Doug Basham: 40 matches; (33 indy shows) Johnny Handsome: 33 matches; (33 indy shows) Greg Valentine: 32 matches; (32 indy shows) Katana: 31 matches; (31 indy shows) Mick Foley: 65 matches; (31 indy shows) Assassin: 30 matches; (30 indy shows) Roger Sartain: 30 matches; (30 indy shows) Johnny Smith: 30 matches; (30 indy shows) Glen Ruth: 66 matches; (29 indy shows) Chaz Warrington: 66 matches; (29 indy shows) New One Man Gang: 29 matches; (29 indy shows) Rick Justice: 28 matches; (28 indy shows) Scotty McKeever: 29 matches; (28 indy shows) Frankie Lee: 28 matches; (28 indy shows) Metal Maniac: 28 matches; (28 indy shows) Beau James: 27 matches; (27 indy shows) Bart Steiger: 27 matches; (27 indy shows) Tim Brooks: 27 matches; (27 indy shows) Lord Zoltan: 27 matches; (27 indy shows) Fernando Valentino: 27 matches; (27 indy shows) Lance Storm: 26 matches; (26 indy shows) Chris Adams: 26 matches; (26 indy shows) Sam Colt: 26 matches; (26 indy shows) Nightmare: 29 matches; (26 indy shows) Jason Helton: 26 matches; (26 indy shows) Mike Golden: 26 matches; (26 indy shows) Greg Jones: 25 matches; (25 indy shows) Shadow: 25 matches; (25 indy shows) Jimmy Snuka: 25 matches; (25 indy shows) Rockin Rebel: 27 matches; (25 indy shows) Jim Powers: 26 matches; (25 indy shows) Randy Rhodes: 25 matches; (25 indy shows) Ray Roberts: 24 matches; (24 indy shows) Billy Montana: 24 matches; (24 indy shows) Devon Storm: 25 matches; (24 indy shows) Richie Dye: 24 matches; (24 indy shows) Bill DeMott: 29 matches; (24 indy shows) John Humphreys: 24 matches; (24 indy shows) Samoan Kid: 24 matches; (24 indy shows) Bambi: 24 matches; (24 indy shows) Dan Severn: 25 matches; (23 indy shows) Jimmy Valiant: 25 matches; (23 indy shows) Corporal Punishment: 23 matches; (23 indy shows) Super Kungo: 22 matches; (22 indy shows) Steve Nixon: 22 matches; (22 indy shows) Super Mario: 22 matches; (22 indy shows) Black Bart: 22 matches; (22 indy shows) Man Mountain Mike: 22 matches; (22 indy shows) Frank Parker: 21 matches; (21 indy shows) Chad Austin: 29 matches; (21 indy shows) TC Reynolds: 21 matches; (21 indy shows) Blazing Fury: 21 matches; (21 indy shows) Bull Pain: 30 matches; (21 indy shows) Tony Atlas: 21 matches; (21 indy shows) Tracy Smothers: 179 matches; (21 indy shows) Raven: 65 matches; (21 indy shows) Adrian Champagne: 21 matches; (21 indy shows) Scott D'Amore: 21 matches; (21 indy shows) Glenn Osbourne: 20 matches; (20 indy shows) Bradshaw: 20 matches; (20 indy shows) Devon Michaels: 20 matches; (20 indy shows) Shawn Taylor: 20 matches; (20 indy shows) Super Nova: 20 matches; (20 indy shows) Inferno Kid: 20 matches; (20 indy shows) Hercules: 20 matches; (20 indy shows) Kodiak Bear: 20 matches; (20 indy shows) JR Alzado: 20 matches; (20 indy shows) Iron Man: 20 matches; (20 indy shows) Dan Cooley: 20 matches; (20 indy shows) JAPAN MAJORS: AJPW / FMW / NJPW/ AJ WOMEN / WAR / M-PRO / IWA JAPAN / HEISEI ISHINGUN / JWP/ BJPW Mima Shimoda: 152 matches; 151 AJ WOMEN, 1 JWP Yumiko Hotta: 152 matches; (2 indy shows) 150 AJ WOMEN Manami Toyota: 149 matches; 149 AJ WOMEN Kyoko Inoue: 147 matches; 147 AJ WOMEN Aja Kong: 147 matches; 147 AJ WOMEN Etsuko Mita: 147 matches; 146 AJ WOMEN, 1 JWP Kaoru Ito: 147 matches; 147 AJ WOMEN Masa Chono: 144 matches; 111 NJPW, 1 WAR, 32 HEISEI ISHINGUN Mariko Yoshida: 144 matches; (1 indy shows) 143 AJ WOMEN Hiroyoshi Tenzan: 142 matches; 117 NJPW, 25 HEISEI ISHINGUN Giant Baba: 137 matches; 137 AJPW Kenta Kobashi: 137 matches; 137 AJPW Tomoko Watanabe: 136 matches; 136 AJ WOMEN Jun Akiyama: 141 matches; (5 indy shows) 136 AJPW Masa Fuchi: 136 matches; 136 AJPW Toshiaki Kawada: 135 matches; 135 AJPW Stan Hansen: 135 matches; 135 AJPW Mitsuharu Misawa: 135 matches; 135 AJPW Akira Taue: 135 matches; 135 AJPW Takao Omori: 134 matches; 134 AJPW Dan Kroffat: 134 matches; 134 AJPW Doug Furnas: 134 matches; 134 AJPW Yoshinari Ogawa: 134 matches; 134 AJPW Tsuyoshi Kikuchi: 133 matches; 133 AJPW Haruka Eigen: 133 matches; 133 AJPW Johnny Ace: 133 matches; 133 AJPW Mitsuhiro Matsunaga: 131 matches; 131 FMW Hido: 131 matches; 131 FMW Satoru Asako: 130 matches; 129 AJPW, 1 FMW Mitsuo Momota: 130 matches; 130 AJPW Takako Inoue: 130 matches; 129 AJ WOMEN, 1 JWP Hisakatsu Oya: 131 matches; (2 indy shows) 129 FMW Combat Toyoda: 128 matches; 128 FMW Misae Watanabe: 128 matches; 128 AJ WOMEN Katsutoshi Niiyama: 129 matches; (1 indy shows) 128 FMW Masato Tanaka: 128 matches; 128 FMW Wing Kanemura: 127 matches; 127 FMW Megumi Kudo: 127 matches; 127 FMW Mike Awesome: 127 matches; (1 indy shows) 126 FMW Mighty Inoue: 126 matches; 126 AJPW Yoshiko Tamura: 126 matches; 126 AJ WOMEN Hideki Hosaka: 127 matches; (1 indy shows) 126 FMW Ryukaku Izumida: 125 matches; 125 AJPW Ricky Fuji: 125 matches; (1 indy shows) 124 FMW Toshiyo Yamada: 122 matches; 122 AJ WOMEN Koji Nakagawa: 121 matches; 120 FMW, 1 M-PRO Yuji Nagata: 121 matches; 103 NJPW, 18 HEISEI ISHINGUN Shark Tsuchiya: 121 matches; (1 indy shows) 120 FMW Rie Tamada: 120 matches; (1 indy shows) 117 AJ WOMEN, 2 JWP Tetsuhiro Kuroda: 118 matches; 118 FMW Shinjiro Otani: 118 matches; 111 NJPW, 1 M-PRO, 6 HEISEI ISHINGUN Bad Nurse Nakamura: 117 matches; (1 indy shows) 116 FMW Kentaro Shiga: 115 matches; 115 AJPW Shinya Hashimoto: 115 matches; 114 NJPW, 1 HEISEI ISHINGUN Chapparita Asari: 115 matches; 115 AJ WOMEN Tadao Yasuda: 114 matches; 109 NJPW, 5 HEISEI ISHINGUN El Samurai: 114 matches; 109 NJPW, 1 M-PRO, 4 HEISEI ISHINGUN Tarzan Goto: 113 matches; 49 FMW, 4 WAR, 52 IWA JAPAN, 8 BJPW Masao Inoue: 113 matches; 113 AJPW Koji Kanemoto: 113 matches; 105 NJPW, 1 WAR, 7 HEISEI ISHINGUN Junji Hirata: 113 matches; 111 NJPW, 2 HEISEI ISHINGUN Takayuki Iizuka: 113 matches; 113 NJPW Nobue Endo: 112 matches; 112 AJ WOMEN Kensuke Sasaki: 112 matches; 109 NJPW, 3 HEISEI ISHINGUN Mach Hayato: 110 matches; 110 FMW Mr Pogo: 109 matches; 109 FMW Maunukea Mossman: 108 matches; 108 AJPW Yone Genjin: 107 matches; 1 WAR, 106 M-PRO Kumiko Maekawa: 106 matches; 105 AJ WOMEN, 1 JWP Rusher Kimura: 105 matches; 105 AJPW Hiro Saito: 104 matches; 93 NJPW, 1 WAR, 10 HEISEI ISHINGUN Gran Hamada: 104 matches; 80 NJPW, 11 M-PRO, 13 HEISEI ISHINGUN Hanzo Nakajima: 104 matches; (1 indy shows) 103 M-PRO Gran Naniwa: 104 matches; (1 indy shows) 103 M-PRO Great Sasuke: 104 matches; (2 indy shows) 102 M-PRO Super Delfin: 102 matches; 102 M-PRO Mr Gannosuke: 100 matches; 38 FMW, 4 WAR, 51 IWA JAPAN, 7 BJPW Taka Michinoku: 108 matches; (8 indy shows) 100 M-PRO Shiro Koshinaka: 99 matches; (1 indy shows) 35 NJPW, 28 WAR, 35 HEISEI ISHINGUN Tamon Honda: 97 matches; 97 AJPW Wellington Wilkens Jr: 99 matches; (2 indy shows) 1 WAR, 96 M-PRO Black Cat: 97 matches; 87 NJPW, 10 HEISEI ISHINGUN Tatsuhito Takaiwa: 96 matches; 92 NJPW, 4 HEISEI ISHINGUN Michiyoshi Ohara: 96 matches; 32 NJPW, 29 WAR, 35 HEISEI ISHINGUN Naohiro Hoshikawa: 102 matches; (8 indy shows) 1 WAR, 93 M-PRO Gosaku Goshogawara: 93 matches; 93 FMW Sakie Hasegawa: 93 matches; 93 AJ WOMEN Yuka Shiina: 92 matches; 91 AJ WOMEN, 1 JWP Horace Boulder: 90 matches; 90 FMW Reggie Bennett: 89 matches; 89 AJ WOMEN Gedo: 89 matches; 78 WAR, 1 IWA JAPAN, 10 HEISEI ISHINGUN Riki Choshu: 90 matches; (2 indy shows) 59 NJPW, 3 WAR, 26 HEISEI ISHINGUN Abdullah the Butcher: 87 matches; 87 AJPW Giant Kimala II: 86 matches; 86 AJPW Shoji Nakamaki: 88 matches; (3 indy shows) 76 IWA JAPAN, 9 BJPW Akira Nogami: 85 matches; 83 NJPW, 2 AJ WOMEN Keiji Muto: 85 matches; 85 NJPW Osamu Kido: 84 matches; 1 FMW, 81 NJPW, 2 HEISEI ISHINGUN Tokimitsu Ishizawa: 84 matches; 84 NJPW Hiromichi Fuyuki: 83 matches; 73 WAR, 10 HEISEI ISHINGUN Battle Ranger: 83 matches; 83 FMW Patriot: 82 matches; 82 AJPW Akitoshi Saito: 83 matches; (2 indy shows) 30 NJPW, 18 WAR, 33 HEISEI ISHINGUN Tatsutoshi Goto: 80 matches; 16 NJPW, 29 WAR, 35 HEISEI ISHINGUN Chris Benoit: 76 matches; 58 NJPW, 18 HEISEI ISHINGUN Yumi Fukawa: 75 matches; 74 AJ WOMEN, 1 JWP Johnny Smith: 75 matches; 75 AJPW Koki Kitahara: 77 matches; (3 indy shows) 73 WAR, 1 HEISEI ISHINGUN Keisuke Yamada: 73 matches; 66 IWA JAPAN, 7 BJPW Nobukazu Hirai: 73 matches; 72 WAR, 1 HEISEI ISHINGUN Chris Jericho: 74 matches; (1 indy shows) 73 WAR Hayabusa: 72 matches; (1 indy shows) 71 FMW Isao Takagi: 79 matches; (9 indy shows) 60 WAR, 8 HEISEI ISHINGUN, 2 BJPW Norio Honaga: 69 matches; 65 NJPW, 4 HEISEI ISHINGUN Masato Yakushiji: 72 matches; (3 indy shows) 69 M-PRO Rick Patterson: 67 matches; 67 IWA JAPAN Keizo Matsuda: 69 matches; (3 indy shows) 59 IWA JAPAN, 7 BJPW Mina Taniyama: 65 matches; 65 AJ WOMEN Daisuke Taue: 66 matches; (2 indy shows) 54 IWA JAPAN, 10 BJPW Ultimo Dragon: 65 matches; (2 indy shows) 63 WAR Atsushi Onita: 63 matches; 63 FMW Genichiro Tenryu: 62 matches; 62 WAR Yuji Yasuraoka: 61 matches; 61 WAR Sabu: 61 matches; 30 NJPW, 31 HEISEI ISHINGUN Hiroshi Itakura: 61 matches; (1 indy shows) 60 WAR Dean Malenko: 59 matches; 59 NJPW Rob Van Dam: 59 matches; 59 AJPW Nobutaka Araya: 58 matches; 48 WAR, 10 IWA JAPAN Miwa Sato: 59 matches; (1 indy shows) 58 FMW Mick Foley: 58 matches; 58 IWA JAPAN Yoshihiro Tajiri: 60 matches; (4 indy shows) 55 IWA JAPAN, 1 BJPW Yukari Ishikura: 57 matches; (2 indy shows) 55 FMW Super Leather: 55 matches; 55 FMW Yoshiaki Yatsu: 69 matches; (15 indy shows) 33 HEISEI ISHINGUN, 21 BJPW Manabu Nakanishi: 53 matches; 52 NJPW, 1 HEISEI ISHINGUN Jado: 52 matches; (1 indy shows) 50 WAR, 1 IWA JAPAN Terry Boy: 51 matches; 51 M-PRO Kengo Kimura: 52 matches; (1 indy shows) 17 NJPW, 2 WAR, 32 HEISEI ISHINGUN Masa Saito: 53 matches; (2 indy shows) 32 NJPW, 19 HEISEI ISHINGUN Shiryu: 52 matches; (1 indy shows) 51 M-PRO Suzuka Minami: 50 matches; 50 AJ WOMEN Takashi Okano: 55 matches; (5 indy shows) 48 IWA JAPAN, 2 BJPW OTHER JAPAN: Kishin Kawabata: 31 matches; (31 indy shows) Ryo Myake: 25 matches; (25 indy shows) Hiroshi Hatanaka: 24 matches; (24 indy shows) Eagle Sawai: 45 matches; (24 indy shows) 21 WAR Shunne Matsuzaki: 24 matches; (24 indy shows) Shinobu Kandori: 23 matches; (22 indy shows) 1 WAR Bruiser Okumura: 28 matches; (22 indy shows) 6 WAR Carol Midori: 28 matches; (22 indy shows) 6 WAR Mizuki Endo: 29 matches; (21 indy shows) 8 WAR Noriyo Tateno: 25 matches; (21 indy shows) 4 WAR Mikiko Futagami: 32 matches; (21 indy shows) 11 WAR Apollo Sugawara: 20 matches; (20 indy shows) Rumi Kazama: 42 matches; (20 indy shows) 22 WAR Jen Yukari: 27 matches; (19 indy shows) 8 WAR Michiko Nagashima: 19 matches; (19 indy shows) Takashi Ishikawa: 18 matches; (18 indy shows) Yasha Kurenai: 30 matches; (18 indy shows) 12 WAR Michiko Omukai: 34 matches; (18 indy shows) 16 WAR Goro Tsurumi: 17 matches; (17 indy shows) Takeshi Miyamoto: 16 matches; (16 indy shows) Masahiko Takasugi: 16 matches; (16 indy shows) Ryuma Go: 28 matches; (15 indy shows) 13 WAR Yoshiaki Yatsu: 69 matches; (15 indy shows) 33 HEISEI ISHINGUN, 21 BJPW Isamu Teranishi: 42 matches; (15 indy shows) 18 HEISEI ISHINGUN, 9 BJPW Kei Tsukada: 14 matches; (14 indy shows) Harley Saito: 21 matches; (14 indy shows) 6 WAR, 1 JWP Jun Kikuzawa: 32 matches; (14 indy shows) 18 IWA JAPAN Black Mummy: 12 matches; (12 indy shows) Masashi Aoyagi: 12 matches; (12 indy shows) Miki Handa: 12 matches; (12 indy shows) Yuki Ishikawa: 27 matches; (12 indy shows) 13 NJPW, 1 M-PRO, 1 HEISEI ISHINGUN Minoru Tanaka: 16 matches; (11 indy shows) 2 FMW, 3 M-PRO Takeshi Ono: 11 matches; (11 indy shows) Dangerous Uchida: 12 matches; (11 indy shows) 1 BJPW Fujita: 12 matches; (11 indy shows) 1 AJ WOMEN Danktane: 13 matches; (11 indy shows) 2 BJPW Yoshiro Ito: 11 matches; (11 indy shows) Exciting Yoshida: 11 matches; (11 indy shows) Akira Maeda: 10 matches; (10 indy shows) Mummy: 10 matches; (10 indy shows) Mitsuya Nagai: 10 matches; (10 indy shows) Aono: 24 matches; (10 indy shows) 14 WAR Demonio II: 10 matches; (10 indy shows) Shoichi Funaki: 37 matches; (10 indy shows) 27 M-PRO MEXICO MAJORS: EMLL/CMLL & AAA Rey Misterio Jr: 50 matches; 50 AAA Octagon: 50 matches; 50 AAA Perro Aguayo: 49 matches; 49 AAA Psicosis: 48 matches; 48 AAA La Parka: 45 matches; 45 AAA Heavy Metal: 44 matches; 44 AAA Super Calo: 43 matches; 43 AAA Cien Caras: 43 matches; 43 AAA Konnan: 42 matches; 42 AAA Atlantis: 41 matches; 41 EMLL/CMLL Latin Lover: 41 matches; 41 AAA Hector Garza: 39 matches; 39 EMLL/CMLL El Hijo del Santo: 38 matches; 15 EMLL/CMLL, 23 AAA El Satanico: 38 matches; 38 EMLL/CMLL Dr Wagner Jr: 37 matches; 37 EMLL/CMLL Los Villanos V: 36 matches; 36 AAA Mascara Sagrada: 36 matches; 36 AAA Jerry Estrada: 36 matches; 36 AAA Emilio Charles Jr: 36 matches; 36 EMLL/CMLL El Dandy: 36 matches; (1 indy shows) 35 EMLL/CMLL Pierroth Jr: 36 matches; (1 indy shows) 29 EMLL/CMLL, 6 AAA Los Villanos III: 35 matches; 35 AAA Los Villanos IV: 35 matches; 35 AAA Winners: 34 matches; 34 AAA Felino: 32 matches; 32 EMLL/CMLL Silver King: 33 matches; (1 indy shows) 32 EMLL/CMLL Brazo de Oro: 32 matches; (1 indy shows) 31 EMLL/CMLL Shocker: 30 matches; 30 EMLL/CMLL Negro Casas: 30 matches; 30 EMLL/CMLL Fuerza Guerrera: 30 matches; 3 EMLL/CMLL, 27 AAA La Fiera: 30 matches; 30 EMLL/CMLL Juventud Guerrera: 30 matches; 30 AAA Angel Mortal: 29 matches; 29 AAA Mascara Ano Dos Mil: 29 matches; 7 EMLL/CMLL, 22 AAA Marabunta: 29 matches; 29 AAA Cibernetico: 28 matches; 28 AAA Bestia Salvaje: 28 matches; 28 EMLL/CMLL Mr Condor: 28 matches; 28 AAA Gran Markus Jr: 28 matches; (1 indy shows) 27 EMLL/CMLL Picudo: 27 matches; 27 AAA Blue Panther: 26 matches; 3 EMLL/CMLL, 23 AAA Dos Caras: 27 matches; (1 indy shows) 26 EMLL/CMLL Mano Negra: 25 matches; 25 EMLL/CMLL Astro Jr: 25 matches; 25 EMLL/CMLL Perro Silva: 26 matches; (1 indy shows) 25 AAA Vampiro Canadiense: 24 matches; 24 EMLL/CMLL Universo Dos Mil: 24 matches; 7 EMLL/CMLL, 17 AAA El Hijo del Gladiador: 23 matches; 23 EMLL/CMLL Karloff Lagarde Jr: 25 matches; (2 indy shows) 5 EMLL/CMLL, 18 AAA Apolo Dantes: 23 matches; 23 EMLL/CMLL Olimpico: 23 matches; 23 EMLL/CMLL Volador: 22 matches; 22 AAA The Killer: 22 matches; 22 AAA Blue Demon Jr: 23 matches; (1 indy shows) 22 EMLL/CMLL Rayo de Jalisco Jr: 23 matches; (1 indy shows) 22 EMLL/CMLL Jaque Mate: 21 matches; 21 EMLL/CMLL Aguila Solitaria: 21 matches; 21 EMLL/CMLL Ultimo Dragon: 21 matches; (1 indy shows) 20 EMLL/CMLL Tinieblas Jr: 20 matches; 2 EMLL/CMLL, 18 AAA Aguila de Acero: 20 matches; 20 AAA Lizmark: 20 matches; 7 EMLL/CMLL, 13 AAA El Hijo del Solitario: 20 matches; 20 EMLL/CMLL Pentagon: 20 matches; 20 AAA La Diabolica: 21 matches; (1 indy shows) 20 EMLL/CMLL OTHER MEXICO Mr Jack: 21 matches; (18 indy shows) 3 EMLL/CMLL Rocky Santana: 20 matches; (17 indy shows) 3 EMLL/CMLL Nuevo Audaz: 18 matches; (16 indy shows) 2 EMLL/CMLL Aero Flash: 16 matches; (15 indy shows) 1 EMLL/CMLL Canek: 22 matches; (14 indy shows) 8 EMLL/CMLL Retador: 14 matches; (13 indy shows) 1 EMLL/CMLL Principe Maya: 13 matches; (12 indy shows) 1 EMLL/CMLL Super Crazy: 13 matches; (12 indy shows) 1 EMLL/CMLL Angel Satanico: 12 matches; (11 indy shows) 1 EMLL/CMLL Paris: 13 matches; (11 indy shows) 2 EMLL/CMLL Enemigo Publico: 13 matches; (11 indy shows) 2 EMLL/CMLL Kid Guzman: 13 matches; (11 indy shows) 2 EMLL/CMLL Loco Valentino: 11 matches; (10 indy shows) 1 EMLL/CMLL Condor Man: 11 matches; (10 indy shows) 1 EMLL/CMLL Samurai: 9 matches; (9 indy shows) King: 10 matches; (8 indy shows) 2 EMLL/CMLL Skeletor: 8 matches; (7 indy shows) 1 EMLL/CMLL Turako: 7 matches; (7 indy shows) El Veneno: 5 matches; (5 indy shows) Takeda: 5 matches; (5 indy shows) Adrian El Exotico: 6 matches; (5 indy shows) 1 EMLL/CMLL Gran Hamada: 6 matches; (5 indy shows) 1 EMLL/CMLL REMAINING Dave Finlay: 57 matches; (5 indy shows) 52 CWA EUROPE Tony St Clair: 57 matches; (3 indy shows) 54 CWA EUROPE Ulf Hermann: 51 matches; 51 CWA EUROPE Bradshaw: 49 matches; 49 CWA EUROPE Franz Schumann: 49 matches; 49 CWA EUROPE PN News: 47 matches; 47 CWA EUROPE Luc Poirier: 45 matches; 45 CWA EUROPE Rick Bogner: 38 matches; 38 CWA EUROPE Drew McDonald: 38 matches; 38 CWA EUROPE Joe Joe Lee: 38 matches; 38 CWA EUROPE Ice Train: 37 matches; 37 CWA EUROPE Dan Collins: 34 matches; 34 CWA EUROPE Dave Taylor: 33 matches; (4 indy shows) 29 CWA EUROPE Viktor Kruger: 33 matches; 33 CWA EUROPE Rod Price: 30 matches; 30 CWA EUROPE Lance Storm: 28 matches; 28 CWA EUROPE August Smisl: 26 matches; 26 CWA EUROPE People with substantial matches in both US/CANADA and JAPAN Tracy Smothers (179 US&Canada/18 Japan) Mick Foley (65 US&Canada/58 Japan) Johnny Smith (30 US&Canada/75 Japan) Chris Benoit (22 US&Canada/76 Japan) Abdullah the Butcher (10 US&Canada/87 Japan) Dean Malenko (35 US&Canada/59 Japan) Chris Jericho (10 US&Canada/74 Japan) Sabu (26 US&Canada/61 Japan) Eddy Guerrero (37 US&Canada/43 Japan) Alex Wright (68 US&Canada/18 Japan) Doug Gilbert (60 US&Canada/17 Japan) Rob Van Dam (17 US&Canada/59 Japan) Arn Anderson (55 US&Canada/17 Japan) Too Cold Scorpio (45 US&Canada/24 Japan) Terry Gordy (45 US&Canada/23 Japan) Tommy Dreamer (44 US&Canada/22 Japan) Steve Regal (39 US&Canada/14 Japan) Jerry Saggs (42 US&Canada/10 Japan) Brian Knobbs (42 US&Canada/10 Japan) Perry Saturn (23 US&Canada/24 Japan) Chris Adams (26 US&Canada/19 Japan) John Kronus (19 US&Canada/24 Japan) Brian Pillman (24 US&Canada/18 Japan) Osamu Nishimura (11 US&Canada/30 Japan) Scott Steiner (11 US&Canada/30 Japan) Rick Steiner (11 US&Canada/30 Japan) Ron Simmons (17 US&Canada/23 Japan) Fred Ottman (11 US&Canada/28 Japan) Dan Spivey (18 US&Canada/16 Japan) Terry Funk (12 US&Canada/26 Japan) Steve Austin (21 US&Canada/16 Japan) Warlord (18 US&Canada/14 Japan) Action Jackson (19 US&Canada/10 Japan) Bull Nakano (17 US&Canada/11 Japan) It really was a big year for Jericho, Eddy Guerrero, Damian and Jason the Terrible (Roberto Rodriguez) who wrestled in USA/Canada, Japan and Mexico! People who were in both WCW and WWF in 1995: Lex Luger, Triple H, Dustin Rhodes, Mike Rotunda, Scotty Riggs, Bull Nakano, Chris Benoit, Bill DeMott, Ricky Santana, Rob Kellum (Gorgeous George III). As people have noticed, many results in the mid-90s had "star ratings" next to them. I assume these were mostly sent in by fans as Dave usually called out his star ratings in separate review columns (especially for the great Japanese wrestling of the time). Here's the compilation of results that I tracked from his results table - who did the fans love the most?? Owen Hart: 42 rated matches including 8 matches that were 3+ stars (2.2 average) Mikey Whipwreck: 40 rated matches including 17 matches that were 3+ stars (2.3 average) Rocco Rock: 38 rated matches including 35 matches that were 3+ stars (3.5 average) Sandman: 37 rated matches including 22 matches that were 3+ stars (3 average) Scott Hall: 37 rated matches including 12 matches that were 3+ stars (2.1 average) Johnny Grunge: 37 rated matches including 33 matches that were 3+ stars (3.4 average) Davey Boy Smith: 36 rated matches including 3 matches that were 3+ stars (1.6 average) Steve Richards: 35 rated matches including 15 matches that were 3+ stars (2.4 average) Gary Wolfe: 35 rated matches including 21 matches that were 3+ stars (2.7 average) Bret Hart: 35 rated matches including 7 matches that were 3+ stars (2.4 average) Anthony Durante: 35 rated matches including 21 matches that were 3+ stars (2.7 average) Kevin Nash: 35 rated matches including 7 matches that were 3+ stars (1.6 average) Tommy Dreamer: 33 rated matches including 21 matches that were 3+ stars (2.9 average) Lex Luger: 33 rated matches including 0 matches that were 3+ stars (1.4 average) Sid Vicious: 32 rated matches including 1 matches that were 3+ stars (1 average) Raven: 32 rated matches including 25 matches that were 3+ stars (3.1 average) Hack Myers: 32 rated matches including 1 matches that were 3+ stars (1.3 average) Sean Waltman: 31 rated matches including 8 matches that were 3+ stars (2.2 average) Mick Foley: 31 rated matches including 22 matches that were 3+ stars (3 average) Jeff Jarrett: 31 rated matches including 12 matches that were 3+ stars (2.5 average) Savio Vega: 31 rated matches including 1 matches that were 3+ stars (1.4 average) Jinsei Shinzaki: 30 rated matches including 8 matches that were 3+ stars (2.4 average) Shawn Michaels: 30 rated matches including 9 matches that were 3+ stars (2.4 average) Yokozuna: 29 rated matches including 5 matches that were 3+ stars (1.8 average) Sting: 29 rated matches including 2 matches that were 3+ stars (1.7 average) Undertaker: 29 rated matches including 3 matches that were 3+ stars (1.1 average) Too Cold Scorpio: 29 rated matches including 13 matches that were 3+ stars (2.7 average) Tatanka: 28 rated matches including 0 matches that were 3+ stars (1.5 average) Eddy Guerrero: 28 rated matches including 24 matches that were 3+ stars (3.4 average) Tom Prichard: 27 rated matches including 16 matches that were 3+ stars (2.7 average) Alex Wright: 27 rated matches including 8 matches that were 3+ stars (2 average) Dean Malenko: 27 rated matches including 19 matches that were 3+ stars (3.3 average) Bob Holly: 27 rated matches including 2 matches that were 3+ stars (1.5 average) Buddy Landel: 26 rated matches including 4 matches that were 3+ stars (1.9 average) Arn Anderson: 26 rated matches including 5 matches that were 3+ stars (2 average) Marcus Bagwell: 26 rated matches including 7 matches that were 3+ stars (2.3 average) Bart Gunn: 25 rated matches including 5 matches that were 3+ stars (2.1 average) Bam Bam Bigelow: 25 rated matches including 0 matches that were 3+ stars (1 average) Billy Gunn: 25 rated matches including 5 matches that were 3+ stars (2.1 average) Jimmy Del Ray: 25 rated matches including 15 matches that were 3+ stars (2.8 average) Tracy Smothers: 24 rated matches including 18 matches that were 3+ stars (3.2 average) New Jack: 24 rated matches including 21 matches that were 3+ stars (3.5 average) Chris Candido: 24 rated matches including 7 matches that were 3+ stars (2.4 average) Glen Jacobs: 23 rated matches including 7 matches that were 3+ stars (2.1 average) Charles Wright: 23 rated matches including 0 matches that were 3+ stars (1 average) Henry Godwinn: 22 rated matches including 1 matches that were 3+ stars (1.1 average) Rikishi: 22 rated matches including 2 matches that were 3+ stars (1.4 average) Al Snow: 21 rated matches including 15 matches that were 3+ stars (3 average) Mustafa Saed: 21 rated matches including 19 matches that were 3+ stars (3.6 average) King Mabel: 21 rated matches including 1 matches that were 3+ stars (1.3 average) Marc Mero: 21 rated matches including 6 matches that were 3+ stars (2.2 average) Axl Rotten: 20 rated matches including 9 matches that were 3+ stars (2.5 average) Triple H: 20 rated matches including 4 matches that were 3+ stars (1.4 average) Sabu: 20 rated matches including 14 matches that were 3+ stars (3.6 average) Dirty White Boy: 20 rated matches including 14 matches that were 3+ stars (3 average) Robert Gibson: 20 rated matches including 9 matches that were 3+ stars (2.3 average) Ian Rotten: 20 rated matches including 9 matches that were 3+ stars (2.6 average) Taz: 19 rated matches including 6 matches that were 3+ stars (2 average) Shane Douglas: 19 rated matches including 7 matches that were 3+ stars (2.5 average) Justin Credible: 19 rated matches including 3 matches that were 3+ stars (1.8 average) Boo Bradley: 18 rated matches including 5 matches that were 3+ stars (2 average) Chris Benoit: 18 rated matches including 13 matches that were 3+ stars (3.3 average) Ron Harris: 18 rated matches including 1 matches that were 3+ stars (1.5 average) Randy Savage: 17 rated matches including 2 matches that were 3+ stars (1.6 average) Louie Spicolli: 17 rated matches including 0 matches that were 3+ stars (1.2 average) Ric Flair: 16 rated matches including 7 matches that were 3+ stars (2.5 average) Don Harris: 16 rated matches including 1 matches that were 3+ stars (1.5 average) Stevie Ray: 15 rated matches including 5 matches that were 3+ stars (2.5 average) Booker T: 15 rated matches including 5 matches that were 3+ stars (2.5 average) Carl Ouellet: 15 rated matches including 5 matches that were 3+ stars (2.2 average) Brad Armstrong: 15 rated matches including 3 matches that were 3+ stars (2.4 average) Bob Backlund: 15 rated matches including 0 matches that were 3+ stars (-0.4 average) Mo: 15 rated matches including 1 matches that were 3+ stars (1.7 average) Adam Bomb: 15 rated matches including 3 matches that were 3+ stars (1.2 average) Barry Horowitz: 15 rated matches including 1 matches that were 3+ stars (1.6 average) Ricky Morton: 15 rated matches including 10 matches that were 3+ stars (2.7 average) Steve Regal: 14 rated matches including 2 matches that were 3+ stars (2.1 average) Rey Misterio Jr: 14 rated matches including 11 matches that were 3+ stars (3.5 average) Marty Jannetty: 14 rated matches including 0 matches that were 3+ stars (1.6 average) JT Smith: 14 rated matches including 0 matches that were 3+ stars (1.2 average) Alundra Blayze: 13 rated matches including 2 matches that were 3+ stars (1.6 average) Konnan: 13 rated matches including 5 matches that were 3+ stars (2.5 average) John Tenta: 13 rated matches including 0 matches that were 3+ stars (1 average) Jeff Bradley: 13 rated matches including 1 matches that were 3+ stars (1.7 average) Tommy Rich: 12 rated matches including 2 matches that were 3+ stars (2 average) Bobby Eaton: 12 rated matches including 1 matches that were 3+ stars (1.8 average) King Kong Bundy: 11 rated matches including 0 matches that were 3+ stars (0.6 average) Brian Pillman: 11 rated matches including 4 matches that were 3+ stars (2.3 average) Psicosis: 11 rated matches including 10 matches that were 3+ stars (3.9 average) Dustin Rhodes: 11 rated matches including 1 matches that were 3+ stars (2 average) D-Lo Brown: 11 rated matches including 5 matches that were 3+ stars (2.6 average) Jason: 11 rated matches including 1 matches that were 3+ stars (1.3 average) Brian Knobbs: 11 rated matches including 4 matches that were 3+ stars (2.6 average) Jerry Saggs: 11 rated matches including 4 matches that were 3+ stars (2.6 average) Scotty Riggs: 11 rated matches including 1 matches that were 3+ stars (2.1 average) Paul Roma: 11 rated matches including 1 matches that were 3+ stars (1.7 average) Del Wilkes: 11 rated matches including 5 matches that were 3+ stars (2.5 average) Dances with Dudley: 10 rated matches including 3 matches that were 3+ stars (1.9 average) Ray Traylor: 10 rated matches including 1 matches that were 3+ stars (1 average) Jim Duggan: 10 rated matches including 0 matches that were 3+ stars (1 average) Perry Saturn: 10 rated matches including 4 matches that were 3+ stars (2.4 average) Ron Simmons: 10 rated matches including 1 matches that were 3+ stars (1.7 average) Jerry Lawler: 10 rated matches including 0 matches that were 3+ stars (2.2 average) Paul Orndorff: 10 rated matches including 2 matches that were 3+ stars (2 average) John Kronus: 10 rated matches including 4 matches that were 3+ stars (2.4 average) Tony Stetson: 9 rated matches including 0 matches that were 3+ stars (0.9 average) Dick Slater: 9 rated matches including 0 matches that were 3+ stars (1.2 average) Bunkhouse Buck: 9 rated matches including 0 matches that were 3+ stars (1.4 average) Duke Droese: 9 rated matches including 0 matches that were 3+ stars (0.6 average) Bertha Faye: 9 rated matches including 0 matches that were 3+ stars (1.1 average) Bobby Blaze: 9 rated matches including 0 matches that were 3+ stars (1.5 average) Maxx Payne: 9 rated matches including 0 matches that were 3+ stars (0.1 average) Steve Austin: 9 rated matches including 3 matches that were 3+ stars (2.4 average) Sam McGraw: 9 rated matches including 0 matches that were 3+ stars (1.7 average) Rick Steiner: 8 rated matches including 4 matches that were 3+ stars (3 average) Samu: 8 rated matches including 2 matches that were 3+ stars (1.8 average) Disco Inferno: 8 rated matches including 1 matches that were 3+ stars (1.7 average) Dan Spivey: 8 rated matches including 0 matches that were 3+ stars (1 average) Don E Allen: 8 rated matches including 0 matches that were 3+ stars (0.7 average) Hulk Hogan: 8 rated matches including 1 matches that were 3+ stars (1.6 average) Diamond Dallas Page: 8 rated matches including 3 matches that were 3+ stars (1.9 average) Glen Ruth: 7 rated matches including 3 matches that were 3+ stars (2.6 average) Steve Armstrong: 7 rated matches including 1 matches that were 3+ stars (1.9 average) Doink the Clown: 7 rated matches including 0 matches that were 3+ stars (1.2 average) Bull Pain: 7 rated matches including 0 matches that were 3+ stars (1.7 average) Chaz Warrington: 7 rated matches including 3 matches that were 3+ stars (2.6 average) Scott Steiner: 7 rated matches including 3 matches that were 3+ stars (3 average) Perro Aguayo: 7 rated matches including 2 matches that were 3+ stars (2.2 average) Bubba Ray Dudley: 7 rated matches including 3 matches that were 3+ stars (2.2 average) Bob Armstrong: 7 rated matches including 3 matches that were 3+ stars (2.4 average) Erik Watts: 7 rated matches including 0 matches that were 3+ stars (1.3 average) Ahmed Johnson: 7 rated matches including 1 matches that were 3+ stars (1.5 average) Steve Lombardi: 7 rated matches including 0 matches that were 3+ stars (1 average) 911: 7 rated matches including 0 matches that were 3+ stars (1.2 average) Vader: 6 rated matches including 2 matches that were 3+ stars (2.4 average) Cien Caras: 6 rated matches including 2 matches that were 3+ stars (2.4 average) Chad Fortune: 6 rated matches including 0 matches that were 3+ stars (1.5 average) Dino Sandoff: 6 rated matches including 0 matches that were 3+ stars (0.5 average) Super Calo: 6 rated matches including 4 matches that were 3+ stars (3.5 average) Head Banger Mosh: 6 rated matches including 1 matches that were 3+ stars (2.1 average) Chad Austin: 6 rated matches including 0 matches that were 3+ stars (0.5 average) Jerry Lynn: 6 rated matches including 5 matches that were 3+ stars (2.8 average) Sam Houston: 6 rated matches including 0 matches that were 3+ stars (1.3 average) KGB: 6 rated matches including 3 matches that were 3+ stars (2.6 average) Craig Pittman: 6 rated matches including 0 matches that were 3+ stars (1.5 average) Bradshaw: 6 rated matches including 1 matches that were 3+ stars (1.7 average) Terry Gordy: 6 rated matches including 1 matches that were 3+ stars (2 average) La Parka: 6 rated matches including 2 matches that were 3+ stars (2.2 average) Mike Rotunda: 6 rated matches including 0 matches that were 3+ stars (1 average) David Sierra: 6 rated matches including 1 matches that were 3+ stars (1.4 average) El Puerto Ricano: 5 rated matches including 0 matches that were 3+ stars (1.8 average) Bull Nakano: 5 rated matches including 3 matches that were 3+ stars (3 average) The Killer: 5 rated matches including 1 matches that were 3+ stars (1.7 average) Head Banger Thrasher: 5 rated matches including 1 matches that were 3+ stars (2.1 average) Rod Price: 5 rated matches including 0 matches that were 3+ stars (1 average) Jeff Farmer: 5 rated matches including 0 matches that were 3+ stars (0.5 average) Terry Funk: 5 rated matches including 5 matches that were 3+ stars (3.9 average) Jim Cornette: 5 rated matches including 1 matches that were 3+ stars (2.3 average) Meng: 5 rated matches including 0 matches that were 3+ stars (1.2 average) Dave Sullivan: 5 rated matches including 0 matches that were 3+ stars (0.1 average) Who had the highest number of ***+ matches? (Answer: ECW and a little SMW.) 20+: Rocco Rock, Johnny Grunge, Raven, Eddy Guerrero, Sandman, Mick Foley, Gary Wolfe, Anthony Durante, Tommy Dreamer, New Jack 15+:Dean Malenko, Mustafa Saed, Tracy Smothers, Mikey Whipwreck, Tom Prichard, Steve Richards, Jimmy Del Ray, Al Snow 10+: Sabu, Dirty White Boy, Too Cold Scorpio, Chris Benoit, Scott Hall, Jeff Jarrett, Rey Misterio Jr, Ricky Morton, Psicosis Highest Rated Matches: AAA 3/16/1995 Rey Misterio Jr. & Super Calo & Piloto Suicida b Espectro Jr. & Fobia & Juventud Guerrera-DQ 24:34 ****1/2 9/29/1995 WWA welterweight title: Rey Misterio Jr. b Psicosis to win title ****3/4 10/21/1995 Cactus Jack & Sabu & Psicosis NC Rey Misterio Jr. & Super Calo & Winners ****1/4 11/3/1995 Ultraman 2000 & Super Calo & Winners b Psicosis & Halloween & KGB ****1/4 12/6/1995 Ultraman & Leon Negro & Super Calo NC Halloween & Psicosis & KGB ****1/2 AJ WOMEN 3/21/1995 Manami Toyota & Blizzard Yuki (Sakie Hasegawa) b Jaguar Yokota & Lioness Asuka 13:42 ****1/4 ECW 1/7/1995 Losing team must split up: Pit Bulls b Axl & Ian Rotten ****1/2 1/14/1995 Falls count anywhere: Cactus Jack b Sandman ****1/2 2/25/1995 ECW tag title: Chris Benoit & Dean Malenko b Sabu & Tazmaniac to win titles ****1/2 3/18/1995 Sabu b Whipwreck ****1/4 3/18/1995 Terry Funk & Sandman b Shane Douglas & Cactus Jack ****1/2 4/15/1995 ECW TV title: Eddy Guerrero d Dean Malenko 25:57 ****3/4 4/29/1995 ECW TV title: Eddy Guerrero DCOR Dean Malenko ****1/4 5/6/1995 Double dog collar match for ECW tag title: Public Enemy b Pit Bulls ****1/4 7/1/1995 Public Enemy b Gangstas ****1/4 8/5/1995 Dean Malenko & Too Cold Scorpio & Cactus Jack b Rick & Scott Steiner & Eddy Guerrero ****1/4 9/16/1995 Rey Misterio Jr. b Psicosis ****1/2 EUROPE INDY 4/6/1995 Robbie Brookside & Ian Dean b Jimmy Ocean & Ricky Knight ****1/2 7/7/1995 Sabu b Dirt Bike Kid ****1/4 SMW 1/28/1995 Heavenly Bodies DDQ Gangstas ****1/4 USA INDY 1/6/1995 Sabu b Rob Van Dam ****1/4 2/4/1995 North American title: Hawk b Norris ****1/4 5/19/1995 Sabu b Judge Dredd-COR ****1/2 6/24/1995 Head Hunters DDQ Tarzan Goto & Crash the Terminator ****1/4 10/28/1995 Sabu b Devon Storm 27:02 ****3/4 WCW 10/25/1995 Chris Benoit b Eddy Guerrero ****1/4 WWF 2/24/1995 Hakushi b 1-2-3 Kid ****1/2 6/7/1995 Owen Hart b Chris Benoit ****1/4 And lastly, the stinkers... people with the lowest average star ratings: Bob Backlund, Dave Sullivan, Maxx Payne, Jeff Farmer, Dino Sandoff, Chad Austin, King Kong Bundy, Duke Droese,Don E Allen, Tony Stetson, Rod Price, Mike Rotunda, am Bam Bigelow, Dan Spivey, Jim Duggan, Sid Vicious, John Tenta, Ray Traylor, Charles Wright, Steve Lombardi, Bertha Faye, Henry Godwinn, Undertaker, Meng, Dick Slater, Louie Spicolli, Adam Bomb, Doink the Clown, 911, JT Smith And people with 2+ negative star ratings Sid Vicious: 4 negative star ratings Cage match for WWF title: Diesel b Sid -* Psycho Sid b Aldo Montoya -1/4* Razor Ramon b Sid-DQ -*1/2 WWF title: Diesel b Sid-COR -** Bob Backlund: 3 negative star ratings Bob Backlund b Bob Holly -****1/2 Davey Boy Smith b Bob Backlund -*** Man Mountain Rock b Bob Backlund -***1/2 King Kong Bundy: 3 negative star ratings Battle Royal rules: King Kong Bundy b Mabel -* Return Battle Royal rules: Mabel b Bundy -* Undertaker b Bundy -* Undertaker: 2 negative star ratings Undertaker b Bam Bam Bigelow-COR -** Undertaker b Bundy -* King Mabel: 2 negative star ratings Battle Royal rules: King Kong Bundy b Mabel -* Return Battle Royal rules: Mabel b Bundy -* Bob Holly: 2 negative star ratings Bob Backlund b Bob Holly -****1/2 Kama b Bob Holly -*1/2 Ray Traylor: 2 negative star ratings Bubba Rogers b Road Warrior Hawk-COR -* Jim Duggan NC Bubba Rogers -* Davey Boy Smith: 2 negative star ratings Davey Boy Smith b Bob Backlund -*** Davey Boy Smith b Tatanka -* Duke Droese: 2 negative star ratings Duke Droese b Timothy Well -** Hunter Hearst Helmsley b Duke Droese -** Kevin Nash: 2 negative star ratings Cage match for WWF title: Diesel b Sid -* WWF title: Diesel b Sid-COR -**

I've been digging through all of the 1995 WO results archives and in the results, here were the Man Mountain Rock matches that had "star ratings" next to them. As a point of reference, these ratings were what fans submitted so they're completely just one random fan's viewpoint, but it raises the important question - how did we miss Payne vs Mantaur?! 6/16/1995 Sacramento, CA (WWF - 2,000) WWF Man Mountain Rock b Bob Backlund * 10/6/1995 Vienna, Austria (WWF - 4,000) WWF Man Mountain Rock b Rad Radford * 6/4/1995 Fort Wayne, IN (WWF - 2,000) WWF Man Mountain Rock b Tatanka * 6/17/1995 Anaheim Pond (WWF - 7,000) WWF Man Mountain Rock b Bob Backlund 1/4* 5/19/1995 Montreal (WWF - 8,500) WWF Man Mountain Rock b Mantaur DUD 6/10/1995 New York Madison Square Garden (WWF - 8,000) WWF Man Mountain Rock b Bob Backlund -***1/2 7/29/1995 Hampton Beach, NH (WWF - 2,000) WWF Bob Backlund b Man Mountain Rock DUD 7/30/1995 Hynannis, MA (WWF - 2,200) WWF Bob Backlund b Man Mountain Rock DUD 8/28/1995 Canton, OH (WWF Superstars & Raw taping - 1,600) WWF Non-squash results: Jean Pierre Lafitte b Man Mountain Rock *1/2 The MSG match vs Backlund might be out there on the internet as MSG bootlegs pop up randomly. Also, as a point of reference, there was a lot of Backlund hate for his '95 run (negative -4.5 stars against Bob Holly, -3 stars against Davey Boy) from the submitters.

I added over 350 graphs to the webpage - based on wrestler names: https://sites.google.com/site/chrisharringt...wf_elo_rankings What limitless stalling can get cha... Also, there is a top WWF Tag Teams analysis with ELO Rankings: https://sites.google.com/site/chrisharringt..._tag_title_data (no graphs yet though).

Update - I vastly expanded on the explanation, methodology, opportunities for improvement, and other information on the webpage https://sites.google.com/site/chrisharringt...wf_elo_rankings Highest Elo Achieved Each wrestler is only listed once. Here is the highest rating achieved by each wrestler: The Ultimate Warrior (1990): 2427 Elo Rating Hulk Hogan (1991): 2328 Elo Rating Bret Hart (1996): 2272 Elo Rating the Undertaker (1996): 2241 Elo Rating Shawn Michaels (1996): 2229 Elo Rating Kevin Nash (1995): 2196 Elo Rating Andre the Giant (1987): 2195 Elo Rating Randy Savage (1989): 2184 Elo Rating Sgt Slaughter (1991): 2151 Elo Rating Road Warrior Animal (1992): 2135 Elo Rating Dusty Rhodes (1990): 2133 Elo Rating Jake Roberts (1991): 2127 Elo Rating Bill Eadie (1989): 2119 Elo Rating Steve Austin (1999): 2110 Elo Rating John Tenta (1992): 2098 Elo Rating Davey Boy Smith (1994): 2096 Elo Rating Scott Hall (1995): 2088 Elo Rating Jim Duggan (1989): 2087 Elo Rating Triple H (2008): 2079 Elo Rating Road Warrior Hawk (1993): 2078 Elo Rating Jimmy Snuka (1989): 2073 Elo Rating Rick Martel (1989): 2073 Elo Rating Lex Luger (1995): 2072 Elo Rating Tatanka (1994): 2071 Elo Rating Mr Perfect (1990): 2061 Elo Rating Lowest Elo Ratings Each wrestler is only listed once. Here is the lowest rating achieved by each wrestler: Barry Horowitz (1995): 1211 Elo rating Frank Williams (1984): 1214 Elo rating Jose Luis Rivera (2005): 1219 Elo rating Steve King (1995): 1222 Elo rating Steve Lombardi (1987): 1234 Elo rating Terry Gibbs (1988): 1268 Elo rating Jose Estrada Sr (1990): 1284 Elo rating Iron Mike Sharpe (1994): 1289 Elo rating Bob Bradley (1992): 1315 Elo rating Fred Marzino (1984): 1316 Elo rating Barry O (1990): 1331 Elo rating Rene Goulet (1986): 1332 Elo rating Angelo Gomez (1984): 1336 Elo rating Danny Davis (1986): 1343 Elo rating Pete Doherty (1987): 1345 Elo rating Charlie Brown (1983): 1348 Elo rating Jillian Hall (2010): 1351 Elo rating Charlie Fulton (1985): 1352 Elo rating Sho Funaki (2007): 1353 Elo rating Shannon Moore (2007): 1368 Elo rating Sylvano Sousa (1980): 1371 Elo rating Mario Mancini (1991): 1376 Elo rating Ron Shaw (1986): 1378 Elo rating Nunzio (2008): 1379 Elo rating Tony Colon (1984): 1381 Elo rating

I gave that one to Jake Bullet. He's in the fictional ELO tournament with Thunderlips and Hammerhead Jones.

He got lawsuit points. j/k Yeah, it's his run as Masked Superstar that propped him up.

He was spry like a 2008 Jimmy Snuka or 1991 Tony Atlas.

It's related to my last statement, "There is no lagging for people that disappear; i.e. when Heath Slater wrestled Sid on RAW, Sid was still at his old high WWF value. " It also means that when Backlund returned, when Steamboat returned, when Nash returned and when Golga (Tenta) returned, they retained their old ELO rating. The reality is that it probably make sense to: I. start driving numbers down due to inactivity (i.e. Piper vs O'Haire is a lot different than Piper vs Hogan) and II. consider resetting numbers all together for new gimmicks (should Tensai get Albert's old numbers? What about Kane and Isaac Yankem?)

I've been working on the next generation of the WWF anaylsis 1970-2011. K-Value Changes Wrestlemania (48) Other PPVs (32) RAW/MSG/SNME/USA/BC (16) SMACKDOWN/SUPERSTARS/WRESTLING CHALLENGE/ALL STAR/PRIME TIME WRESTLING/HEAT/ECW/ALL AMERICAN/TNT (12) Other Televised Shows (8) House Show (4) Not WWWF/WWF/WWE event (0) K-Value Multiplers Belts: Heavyweight Championship (x1.5), Tag Team (x1.2), IC Championship (x1.3), Women's (x1.15), Other Titles (x1.1) Last Match of Night: (x1.1) Lots more data by year at : https://sites.google.com/site/chrisharringt...wf_elo_rankings (This is for the MAX value that a wrestler got each year..) Biggest matches (by largest ELO change - more than 35 points in a single match): 1991: The Undertaker (w/ Paul Bearer) pinned WWF World Champion Hulk Hogan at 12:45 to win the title following a tombstone onto a steel chair 1993: Yokozuna (w/ Mr. Fuji) pinned WWF World Champion Hulk Hogan (w/ Jimmy Hart) at 13:10 to win the title following a belly to belly suplex and leg drop after a photographer at ringside shot a fireball into the champion's face 1994: Bob Backlund (w/ Owen Hart) defeated WWF World Champion Bret Hart (w/ Davey Boy Smith) to win the title at 34:44 in a match where the participants' seconds would have to throw in the towel to end the match 1996: WWF IC Champion Goldust (w/ Marlena) defeated the Undertaker (w/ Paul Bearer) in a casket match at around the 8-minute mark after Steve Austin, Vader, Justin Bradshaw, and Isaac Yankem DDS attacked the challenger 1996: Vader, Owen Hart, & Davey Boy Smith (w/ Jim Cornette) defeated WWF World Champion Shawn Michaels (w/ Jose Lothario), WWF IC Champion Ahmed Johnson, & Psycho Sid (sub. for the Ultimate Warrior) when Vader pinned Michaels with the Vader Bomb at 24:32 1996: Psycho Sid pinned WWF World Champion Shawn Michaels (w/ Jose Lothario) to win the title at 20:00 with the powerbomb 1996: WWF World Champion Psycho Sid pinned Bret Hart with the powerbomb at 17:04 2002: The Undertaker pinned WWE World Champion Hulk Hogan to win the title at 11:20 with a chair shot and chokeslam 2002: Triple H defeated World Heavyweight Champion Shawn Michaels in a Best 2 out of 3 falls match to win the title at 38:33 2003: World Heavyweight Champion Triple H, Ric Flair, & Chris Jericho defeated Kevin Nash, Shawn Michaels, & Booker T at 17:53 when Triple H pinned Nash by hitting him in the face with a sledgehammer after Nash hit the powerbomb on Jericho 2003: Bill Goldberg pinned World Heavyweight Champion Triple H at 14:53 to win the title 2006: Edge (w/ Lita) pinned WWE World Champion John Cena to win the title with the spear at 1:46 2006: World Heavyweight Champion Kurt Angle pinned the Undertaker at 29:37 2006: Booker T pinned World Heavyweight Champion Rey Mysterio Jr. to win the title 2007: World Heavyweight Champion Edge pinned Batista at 10:39 with a roll up 2007: World Heavyweight Champion Edge defeated Batista in a steel cage match 2007: Smackdown! - 12/28/07: Randy Orton defeated WWE World Champion Triple H in a last man standing match to win the title at 20:25 2007: Edge defeated World Heavyweight Champion Batista and the Undertaker to win the title in a No DQ match at 13:02 2009: World Heavyweight Champion CM Punk defeated the Undertaker in a submission match at 10:55 2009: Sheamus defeated WWE World Champion John Cena to win the title in a tables match at 16:23 2011: CM Punk pinned WWE World Champion John Cena to win the title at 33:44 with the Go To Sleep 2011: Mark Henry pinned World Heavyweight Champion Randy Orton to win the title at 12:07 with the powerslam after shoving off an attempt at the RKO 2011: WWE World Champion Alberto Del Rio defeated John Cena in a last man standing match at 26:58 2011: Daniel Bryan pinned World Heavyweight Champion the Big Show to win the title at the 9-second mark in an impromptu match; after the bout, Bryan berated Michael Cole at the commentary table, celebrated at ringside with the fans There's still a lot of room for improvement (attendance at big shows isn't factored in and PPVs aren't tiered beyond WM/non-WM, length of match, stipulations, etc.) but it's getting there. There is no lagging for people that disappear; i.e. when Heath Slater wrestled Sid on RAW, Sid was still at his old high WWF value.

So, looks like I caused all sorts of chaos with my "factoids". Here's what happened... I posted something on the WO board in an old thread about main events with the disclaimer: " I was looking at who was in the most "main event" each year. I used the simplistic definition of "last match on the card/taping" so there are going to be some false positives - times when ECW was taped after one of the bigger shows, times when they did a marathon taping, times when the biggest stars were working several cities so they worked mid-card and flew out to another show, when more than one crew is performing on the same day you might have a b-star 'headlining', etc. However, in general, it gives a quick feel of who were the top guys each year, at least by card positioning. " Two people responded and that was that. I specifically said, "this seems like it's probably wrong for the 70s and early 80s". Then, out of the blue, Dave took what I posted and added it to the Newsletter. I thought, "neat" and just went on. I did a simplistic analysis and I knew it wasn't right, but I didn't test it enough and look for the holes that would have been a lot more evident had I tried to think about the years individually, instead of devouring the whole 41 years at once. It was just a work-in-progress thread. I was looking for more feedback so I could refine the model, just like you have all been doing here. Later, as an improvement, I made this chart but I don't know if anyone ever noticed it: I wanted to look at who was in ring with the world champion each year. These were either the tag partners or opponents of the person holding the top belt(s) in all the varied spellings and forms: (included the titles of...) WWF Champion, WWE World Champion, World Heavyweight Champion, WWWF World Champion, WWE Smackdown! World Champion, WCW World Champion (I did count the invasion belt), WWE Raw World Champion, NWA World Champion (mostly Harley Race appearances), WWE Champion. (I didn't count the ECW belt since that was never really promoted as being the top title. Obviously, there are times when the IC belt was a monumental achievement, but since it's waned in important over the past 15 years, I left that out of the list.) Top Fifty Guys who were in the Ring with the at-the-time World Champion 1. the Undertaker: 444 matches 2. Randy Orton: 417 matches 3. Triple H: 357 matches 4. the Big Show: 347 matches 5. John Cena: 315 matches 6. Batista: 312 matches 7. Glen Jacobs: 296 matches 8. Edge: 260 matches 9. Chris Jericho: 232 matches 10. Ric Flair: 222 matches 11. Shawn Michaels: 199 matches 12. Kurt Angle: 197 matches 13. Randy Savage: 181 matches 14. Rey Mysterio Jr: 166 matches 15. the Rock: 145 matches 16. John Bradshaw Layfield: 144 matches 17. CM Punk: 142 matches 18. Owen Hart: 142 matches 19. Chris Benoit: 133 matches 20. Mark Henry: 128 matches So, for John defending me, thanks but in this case I was kinda dumb. (But in my defense, I didn't expect Dave to post my list because it was just a thread I threw out there.) (Also, the Main Event data assumes the order on TheHIstoryofWWE is right which I've noticed is often not the case, especially for house shows.)

If anyone cares, I did two other ELO systems recently: CMLL 2011 - 2012: https://sites.google.com/site/chrisharringt...012_elo_ratings (just based on two years; there was no variance for k-value based on # of people in match or location) 1) Rush: 174 matches - max 1829 rating / min 1495 / final rating: 1829 2) Diamante: 86 matches - max 1696 rating / min 1500 / final rating: 1688 3) Starman: 97 matches - max 1671 rating / min 1500 / final rating: 1669 4) Ultimo Guerrero: 223 matches - max 1641 rating / min 1500 / final rating: 1571 5) Marcela: 131 matches - max 1681 rating / min 1500 / final rating: 1681 6) Delta: 120 matches - max 1673 rating / min 1496 / final rating: 1673 7) Sagrado: 138 matches - max 1705 rating / min 1492 / final rating: 1700 8) Mascara Dorada: 145 matches - max 1614 rating / min 1497 / final rating: 1605 9) Atlantis: 194 matches - max 1709 rating / min 1495 / final rating: 1709 10) Dragon Rojo Jr: 141 matches - max 1597 rating / min 1500 / final rating: 1545 AAA 2008 - 2012: https://sites.google.com/site/chrisharringt...aaa_elo_ratings (based on five years; heavier weight for TV matches, major events, singles matches, cage matches, hair matches, etc.) 1) Psycho Clown: 2249 max ELO rating from 10/28/2010 (638 matches with 267 ranked matches) 2) Zombie Clown: 2045 max ELO rating from 8/13/2011 (241 matches with 87 ranked matches) 3) Killer Clown: 2024 max ELO rating from 11/1/2009 (243 matches with 86 ranked matches) 4) Dr Wagner Jr: 2012 max ELO rating from 12/5/2009 (282 matches with 190 ranked matches) 5) Sexy Star: 1968 max ELO rating from 10/30/2009 (505 matches with 182 ranked matches) 6) Cibernetico: 1950 max ELO rating from 4/5/2009 (497 matches with 227 ranked matches) 7) Nicho El Millionario: 1925 max ELO rating from 10/30/2009 (349 matches with 178 ranked matches) 8) Extreme Tiger: 1923 max ELO rating from 4/16/2010 (353 matches with 190 ranked matches) 9) El Mesias: 1895 max ELO rating from 8/5/2012 (550 matches with 274 ranked matches) 10) Octagoncito: 1888 max ELO rating from 3/25/2011 (424 matches with 146 ranked matches)

For the short period of time he was just Skip Shepfield, wasn't his finisher the mighty clothesline?

I'm trying to think of how draws are handled in futbol. It's possible that a draw against Brasil means more than beating East Timor. In other words, a draw against Cena may mean more than a win over the lowest ranked person of the WWE roster. The original reason that I did this was because I didn't distinguish between draws and no contests. When I revise the sheet, I'll do this. A draw should certainly be worth something. When Sting goes toe-to-toe with Ric Flair to a time limit draw, that means something. A double DQ or a double Countout is a lot more vague. This sounds about right. Going back historically, say to the 80s, there would be differences there: * PPV/Closed Circiut Obviously the biggest of the big. One might, though, give special credit to different PPV: 1. Mania 2. Summer Slam 3. Survivor Series 4. Misc Mania is worth more than Slam which is worth more than Survivor, while the rare other ones are of marginal worth. I did credit Mania much higher than other events. Here were the values I used: DARK 8 ECW 12 event 8 HEAT 12 JAKKED 12 NXT 12 other fed 0 PPV 32 RAW 16 SMACKDOWN 16 SNME 16 SUPERSTARS 12 TRIBUTE 16 UKPPV 12 VELOCITY 12 WWE.COM 12 YOUTUBE 12 WMPPV 48 The version I did here was only 2000 onwards but when I pull the results back to 1980 onwards, I will need to implement a system similar to what you described with large show, SNME, TV tapings, VHS releases, etc. You're spot on. It probably is worth while to have a "bleeding" factor for inactivity. Also should have a minimum level of needing work work to get ranked. Rock has been out for years. He came back and pinned Cena. He hasn't worked since. Can't really rank someone based on that. A returning Brock needs to work X amount before getting ranked. He was out so long that he restarts with 0. What is a reasonable period of inactivity where you get to 0? I would think *at most* 2 years. It's arguable that it should be less time. How quickly should ranking be bled due to inactivity? I would think that most of it would bleed away within a year of being inactive, which means a hell of a lot would bleed off in six months. This is something I've been struggling a lot with - when you have people bouncing between WCW/WWF, that's one thing. Does Maxx Payne come into WWF with his WCW ranking vs. Does a star like Ric Flair carry over his WCW days? So far, that's my plan. When John Cena was out for months with an injury, does his ranking slip or does he return a big star? When Roddy Piper leaves for even longer, what about him? I'm thinking the phase is something like 2-4 years brings you down. Title matches should be worth more, and dependent on the title. The World Cup is worth more than a Friendly. The World Cup is worth more than the Euro Championship, which in turn is worth more than the Asia Cup. That said... I would probably give a PPV Main Event Bonus. Rock-Cena > WWE/World Titles at Mania. If the WWE Title is the Main Event, it gets just the PPV Main Event Bonus, not both added together. This does make a judgement call on what the Main Event (or Main Events) are. It's not the last match on the card, but the big draw/push. At times there may be a double main event where both warrant credit. But 2002 with Rock-Hogan while HHH-Jericho went on last... we all knew Rock-Hogan was the real main event. It should get the bonus while the HHH-Jericho gets the WWF Title bonus. Yup. It's always part art and part science. Pin/Submission >>> DQ/COR > Draw/DDQ/DCOR > Loss by DQ/COR >>> Loss by Pin/Submission Again, look back at the 80s. Hogan would lose by DQ and COR. In 1984-89, he lost by pin or submission just once in the WWF. DQ/COR & Draw/DDQ/DCOR & Loss by DQ/COR were all very close to the same thing in terms of screwiness. Loss by Pin/Submission & Pin/Submission were where the real nuts and bolts of how people ranked were determined. This sadly skews things to a lot of Faces since the WWF didn't have some of them do a lot of jobs, while heels without belts might job all over the place. Yeah, there is a strong correlation between straight wins/losses and a person's ELO rating. Moreover, title holders almost always win cleanly on house shows, and there are a lot more house shows than taped events so those title holders tender to rack up a lot of rating points quickly. I did a look once at the US/IC titles by year on Televised shows and non-televised shows from 2009 to 2011: IC title: 204-40-14 in singles matches during non-televised events (dark matches or house shows; losses include DQ losses obviously) = 84% win IC title: 66-79-8 in singles matches during televised events = 46% win US title: 287-23-1 in singles matches during non-televised events (dark matches or house shows; losses include DQ losses obviously) = 93% win US title: 76-51-8 in singles matches during televised events (dark matches or house shows; losses include DQ losses obviously) = 60% win Thanks for the input. I have been looking for sounding board for ideas for this project and I think my wife and brother are getting tired of me asking them I've been combining all names/identities together in this project so Dolph Ziggler = Nicky = Nic Nemeth and Steve Lombardi is everywhere. I do love calculating the jobbers ELO ratings though - some samples. Jan-03 Crash Holly (1437, 5 matches) Yoshihiro Tajiri (1450, 11 matches) Sho Funaki (1459, 10 matches) Bull Buchanon (1463, 2 matches) Steven Richards (1468, 14 matches) Raven (1486, 6 matches) Rico Constantino (1494, 13 matches) Jackie (1499, 11 matches) Johnny Stamboli (1515, 2 matches) Dawn Marie (1521, 10 matches) May-05 Shannon Moore (1318, 4 matches) Jimmy Yang (1351, 6 matches) Steven Richards (1385, 9 matches) Rob Conway (1408, 7 matches) Nunzio (1410, 9 matches) Spike Dudley (1429, 8 matches) Val Venis (1430, 12 matches) Sho Funaki (1431, 6 matches) Christian (1480, 14 matches) Ric Flair (1481, 10 matches) Oct-07 Shannon Moore (1303, 1 matches) Jamie Noble (1317, 6 matches) Sho Funaki (1346, 2 matches) Victoria (1397, 4 matches) Nunzio (1397, 3 matches) Kenny Dykstra (1426, 4 matches) Jimmy Yang (1439, 4 matches) Charlie Haas (1452, 5 matches) Matt Striker (1457, 4 matches) Mike Knox (1463, 1 matches) Oct-09 Chavo Guerrero Jr (1364, 9 matches) Jimmy Yang (1406, 1 matches) Mike Knox (1412, 4 matches) Jillian Hall (1412, 8 matches) William Regal (1440, 9 matches) Jamie Noble (1442, 6 matches) Layla (1451, 2 matches) Natalya Neidhart (1454, 2 matches) Gregory Helms (1468, 7 matches) Katie Lea (1475, 2 matches) Jul-12 Heath Slater (1392, 2 matches) Jack Swagger (1393, 1 matches) Curt Hawkins (1413, 1 matches) Drew McIntyre (1459, 2 matches) Alex Riley (1477, 1 matches) Tyson Kidd (1491, 2 matches) Camacho (1529, 1 matches) Matt Bloom (1536, 2 matches) Darren Young (1548, 1 matches) David Otunga (1559, 1 matches) I wouldn't read too much into those 2002 numbers. I only had 13 months of data that were generating the returns, so very short term trends affected those numbers. You'll see that the cream rises to the top quickly after about 2-3 years.

Hey. I'm the guy who did tried to do ELO stuff with WWF results. from a few weeks ago: I finally figured out how to get my Excel spreadsheet handle 83,000 lines of match data and calculate ELO ratings without completely locking up. I started everyone at 1600 on Jan 2001 and all draws/no contests resulted in zero point changes. There is a variable k-factor where PPVs are worth a lot more than A-show shows which are worth a lot more than B-shows which are worth a lot more than house shows and dark matches. The "n/a chg" means that the person didn't wrestle in the previous month. Changes I want to implement to the regiment: - Right now there is no decline for inactivity. Brock Lesnar returns after years of being gone - should he go down? What about The Undertaker taking long hiatuses between big matches? - Additionally, title matches have no added weight and rumbles are not included. Shouldn't a title win be worth a lot? If you lose a title match, should that also be a large wager? - Wins via DQ are treated the same as clean wins. Losing via DQ is often a cheap out which is almost a "win" for the loser. http://mookieghana.livejournal.com/319225.html Examples: Monthly lists for 2002 to 2012 are there. Mar-02 1. Rob Van Dam: 16 matches (1791, -6 chg) 2. Billy Gunn: 12 matches (1777, +20 chg) 3. Chris Jericho: 10 matches (1766, +3 chg) 4. the Undertaker: 7 matches (1765, -25 chg) 5. The Rock: 10 matches (1758, +15 chg) 6. Kane: 10 matches (1739, +16 chg) 7. Chuck Palumbo: 10 matches (1737, +25 chg) 8. Steve Austin: 7 matches (1730, +13 chg) 9. JBL: 12 matches (1707, +11 chg) 10. Matt Bloom: 12 matches (1694, +12 chg) Apr-06 1. John Cena: 16 matches (2029, +21 chg) 2. the Undertaker: 3 matches (1937, +7 chg) 3. Kane: 15 matches (1865, +7 chg) 4. Chris Benoit: 14 matches (1848, -36 chg) 5. the Big Show: 13 matches (1841, -14 chg) 6. Rey Mysterio Jr: 13 matches (1815, +24 chg) 7. Shawn Michaels: 9 matches (1806, -6 chg) 8. Bobby Lashley: 13 matches (1786, +3 chg) 9. Kurt Angle: 13 matches (1785, -9 chg) 10. Rob Van Dam: 15 matches (1781, -30 chg) Aug-08 1. the Undertaker: 4 matches (2063, +n/a chg) 2. Triple H: 12 matches (2006, +24 chg) 3. Batista: 14 matches (1987, -10 chg) 4. John Cena: 14 matches (1972, -5 chg) 5. Edge: 5 matches (1838, -16 chg) 6. CM Punk: 16 matches (1831, +39 chg) 7. the Big Show: 9 matches (1831, +21 chg) 8. Kane: 15 matches (1811, -15 chg) 9. Cody Rhodes: 16 matches (1809, 0 chg) 10. Matt Hardy: 14 matches (1786, -28 chg) Jun-12 1. John Cena: 15 matches (2033, -1 chg) 2. Sheamus: 13 matches (1958, +27 chg) 3. the Big Show: 13 matches (1894, -5 chg) 4. CM Punk: 13 matches (1867, +6 chg) 5. Beth Phoenix: 9 matches (1790, -20 chg) 6. Brodus Clay: 10 matches (1780, +20 chg) 7. Sin Cara: 7 matches (1760, +22 chg) 8. Kane: 13 matches (1759, -17 chg) 9. Bryan Danielson: 13 matches (1756, -19 chg) 10. The Great Khali: 5 matches (1753, -6 chg)