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Bret did not make my list, so sure. I like Bret plenty and enjoy the Bret match and even the character work, but found him pretty terrible in multiple eras when he wasn’t running shit. He’s in my top 250 but not amongst my top 100, nor was he fighting for one of the last spots. I do love his endless hate parade, however, and am currently re-reading his book and can’t wait for the one by Snowden.

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Who gives a single shit about whether or not a good match has stipulations?

I had Mick Foley at 82, but it is wholly believable that someone could look at his career and vote him very high based on his matches and not factoring in his promos. Dude was a beloved and unbelievably influential in-ring performer. Lucha got ASSASSINATED this time. We have a new agenda for next time, marks.

Lucha has been assassinated.

CM Punk ahead of Ricky Steamboat has me needing to go lie down awhile.

Draconian New Japan clip sharing policies nuked Liger, who I am not that high on but is absolutely a clippable monster.

Lawler dropping is against god.

What a shooter. I respect you, bookermantaur!

I find the argument it implies against Fujinami offensive and nonexistent, and the dragon/tradition portmanteau, itself, is truly horrific. And yet, as with most things said on a message board, this intends no harm and is said in jest.

“Reject cynicism, embrace Dradition” is more insidious than anything even Parv ever said in this hive of scum and villainy.

OJ not doing a #1 blurb for Satanico is a bigger heel turn than Mantaur shooting on everyone.

I like Gunther but what are we doing here?

Ishikawa probably tops Ikeda because he was the ace of BattlARTS (one of the most mythical promotions ever) and also wasn’t damned by his own success like Ikeda, by which I mean Daisuke kinda sucks in the bigger promotions. Or, at least, was unable to work that style on those tours, although honestly who could blame him?

I think there are a lot of great Regal matches, but he does seem to be a guy whose attributes that are most appreciated extend far beyond specific matches. Kinda like Terry Funk or Abby, where their entire package is what is most impressive, with respect to any particular performances. With the exception of the Flair or Empty Arena match, I almost never think of Terry Funk having great matches, I mostly think of him calling someone a Jackass or just being The Funker and being indescribably wonderful.

That El-P post was art. I feel exposed.

Mantaur out here working stiffer than Low Ki my god

Roddy Strong the first entry on the top 100 that is just absurd to me. He’s like a Tom Zenk-level guy to me of his era. And I’d like to nominate Matt D’s “Who’s On First?” Routine with Dusty and Dustin as the second most adorable post on this whole thread, right behind Mantaur’s vintage meltdown.

Did anyone else feel a nostalgic rush of bittersweet glory when that Mantaur guy flipped his shit? Just me? Felt like when Bill Barnwell used to nuke me from orbit in the old DVDVR chat room. Oh how I’ve missed those days….

1 Terry Funk 2 Ric Flair 3 Stan Hansen 4 Toshiaki Kawada 5 Genichiro Tenryu 6 Kenta Kobashi 7 Tatsumi Fujinami 8 Negro Casas 9 Mitsuharu Misawa 10 Aja Kong 11 Daniel Bryan 12 Jerry Lawler 13 Ricky Steamboat 14 Jumbo Tsuruta 15 Rey Mysterio Jr. 16 Bull Nakano 17 Akira Hokuto 18 Jushin Liger 19 Randy Savage 20 Brock Lesnar 21 Buddy Rose 22 Akira Taue 23 El Dandy 24 Yoshiaki Fujiwara 25 Arn Anderson 26 Billy Robinson 27 Shinya Hashimoto 28 Vader 29 Eddie Guerrero 30 William Regal 31 Jun Akiyama 32 The Destroyer 33 Barry Windham 34 Riki Choshu 35 Jack Brisco 36 Sgt. Slaughter 37 Rick Martel 38 Nick Bockwinkel 39 Rick Rude 40 Dustin Rhodes 41 John Cena 42 Chigusa Nagayo 43 Sami Zayn 44 Chris Benoit 45 Tully Blanchard 46 Dick Murdoch 47 Terry Gordy 48 Harley Race 49 AJ Styles 50 Dusty Rhodes 51 Ted Dibiase 52 Samoa Joe 53 Hiroshi Hase 54 Shinjiro Ohtani 55 Fit Finlay 56 Dick Togo 57 Dr. Wagner Jr. 58 Ricky Morton 59 Owen Hart 60 Bobby Eaton 61 Roddy Piper 62 Brian Pillman 63 Jim Breaks 64 Dynamite Kid 65 El Hijo del Santo 66 Adrian Adonis 67 Buzz Sawyer 68 Invader I 69 Tito Santana 70 El Satanico 71 Keiji Mutoh 72 Naoki Sano 73 Larry Zbyszko 74 Yoshihiro Tajiri 75 Osamu Nishimura 76 Mick Foley 77 Randy Orton 78 Carlos Colon 79 Wahoo McDaniel 80 Daisuke Ikeda 81 Kerry Von Erich 82 Terry Rudge 83 Super Dragon 84 Mayumi Ozaki 85 CIMA 86 Too Cold Scorpio 87 Shinsuke Nakamura 88 Steve Austin 89 Curt Hennig 90 Atsushi Onita 91 Jake Roberts 92 Eddie Gilbert 93 The Rock 94 Big Boss Man 95 Johnny Saint 96 Bill Dundee 97 Mike Jackson 98 Tracy Smothers 99 Mark Briscoe 100 Hulk Hogan Yours, JHHBjr

I think these two fellas being the final fray is pretty indicative of what a success this project has been. I think the chasm between Funk & Flair and the rest of the list is quite dramatic. I had Funk first, but am filled with regret with every Flair testimonial I read, and am certain I would feel the same if the roles were reversed. The two greatest there's ever been, who happened to produce the most important feud in my wrestling fandom. Salud! Yours, JHHBjr

He was, like many, a shoot-style guy was also worked in pro-style promotions. As a shoot-style guy, he also used quite a bit of pro-style stuff. Did I mention his horrible headbutts ? He also wasn't that great working outside of shoot-style environment, unlike Yamazaki or Takada. He was fun, but not that good, especially past his peak. Yes. So you rated Fujiwara 28th, but are dismayed at where he ended up being ranked? Having difficulty sussing out your viewpoint. Fujiwara is the closest to a shoot stylist that I ranked. I decided to take Maeda off my list, despite loving him in the past, and am now regretting it. Fujiwara ticks all my boxes in that he's not just a good worker, but also a great entertainer. I like shoot style but it's almost a different thing for me, and I haven't seen enough to consider my opinion even close to expert. Yours, JHHBjr

Dibiase getting 42 is some Douglas Adams shit, for sure, when it comes to Parv's affection for him. List is heating up! Yours, JHHBjr

And that's why OJ is still king of wrasslin posts! Yours, JHHBjr

Baba > Andre, in my estimation. Had Sarge at #36. I've heard reports of him dogging it, at times, but I've never seen that, and I've seen him as Beatiful Bob Remus. Hell, his turnbuckle bump is the only crazier bump than Hamrick's that said wrestler would routinely break out. That alone should get him some major love. Bull at 61? Maybe y'all meant 16, because that's where I had her. Best look in wrasslin history and such an amazing big match worker with such a cool career arc and stellar feuds. I wonder if this is a grim augury for joshi on the whole, or just a plummet for Nakano. Lots of guys here in this slot I didn't rank. I need to revisit Tamura, as I sort of eschewed true shoot style, but don't feel bad about leaving Blue Panther, Atlantis, Baba, and Ishikawa off at all. BP and Atlantis began to bore me a little on the deep dives, to the point where I would avoid their matches. Love their big stuff, but when I actively dodge you that frequently, you off the list! I only ranked one battlarts guy, and that was Ikeda, but you could tell me you think ishikawa is superior and I wouldn't bat a lash. Baba has soared past his once jocular status, but this seems an overcorrection to me. Had Ohtani & Togo about 20 spots higher, as it seems I value the junior work more, but kinda saw this coming. Ohtani's heavy stuff is vastly inferior to his junior run, but then again what isn't. Had Dick Togo slightly behind him as the king of lucharesu. All in all, fun to see where consensus lies now. Yours, JHHBjr