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Now, we are closing to WON Hall of Fame 2018 season. Like last years, the Mexican group is full of a lot of contenders, like Villano III, Cien Caras, L.A.Park, Ultimo Guerrero, Blue Panther, Mistico, Karloff Legarde, Los Misioneros de la Muerte, Los Brazos. Other groups are not full of no brainer like Mexican section, but there are a lot of interesting candidates like Junkyard Dog, CM Punk, Edge, Big Daddy, Sgt. Slaughter, Goldberg, Akira Taue, Jun Akiyama, Johnny Saint, Yoshiaki Fujiwara....... How do you weight criteria? In the sense, how much important is work, for you? Does deserve more to be in a huge draw for a short time, like Goldberg, or a great worker for a long time, who was not a great draw, like AJ Styles and Daniel Bryan who were inducted last two years? Like in the topic of the historical importance, here, I made some comparisons, where you should choose who is the best candidate for the Hall of Fame. I also mixed candidates of various groups among each other, although is more difficult to compare them. Obiouvsly there are comparisons, in which you think that nobody deserves the WON HOF, like Edge vs Warrior. In that case the best thing would be that you vote for the candidate that you think is closer to the WON HOF, or at least the less far. In invite users that talked a lot about WON HOF in the past, like Dylan Waco, to partecipate in the topic. As you know, The criteria for the Hall of Fame is a combination of drawing power, being a great in-ring performer or excelling in ones field in pro wrestling, as well as having historical significance in a positive manner. A candidate should either have something to offer in all three categories, or be someone so outstanding in one or two of those categories that they deserve inclusion. Longevity should be a prime consideration rather than a hot two or three year run, unless someone is so significant as a trend-setter or a historical figure in the business, or valuable to the industry, that they need to be included. However, just longevity without being either a long-term main eventer, a top draw and/or a top caliber in-ring performer should be seen as relatively meaningless. The comparisons are: Mistico vs Akira Taue Goldberg vs Yoshiaki Fujiwara Edge vs The Ultimate Warrior Junkyard Dog vs Blue Panther Randy Orton vs Johnny Saint Thank you very much

What do you think about Roman Reigns? Is he a good worker? Do you think that he is a good draw? Outside USA, do you think that he is a big star? For example in India, I think that a lot of people know him. According to google trends he appears to be also a bigger star than The Rock, McGregor and Mayweather in India. Thank you very much

Charles, however, in your opinion, what should happen to consider Bryan's historical importance as positive? Should a NXT star become the face of WWE or should the WWE style change, or something other?

In 10/15 years I will ask you this question again.

In that sense, do you think also that Bryan was also more influential than Benoit and Guerrero, after Foley?

Weren't Chris Benoit and Eddie Guerrero, who proved that a guy who didn't have the typical look could become a top star?

Although, as you said, the career of some wrestlers, like Bryan and Styles, are still in course, and we can not establish their legacy, what would be your choises at the moment?

Good morning. I usually open this kind of poll on wrestlingclassics, and I compare the historical importance of wrestlers. How much important is the criteria "historical importance" in judging the career of a wrestler and his hall of fame status? Is it more important than "drawing power"? First of all I want to ask you what do you think about "fame" and"popularity". For example, probably wrestlers like Batista and Randy Orton are way more popular and more known by people than wrestlers like Daniel Bryan and AJ Styles, because they were on top for longer and they were main eventer in more popular periods for pro wrestling. But does that mean that Orton and Batista are more important? Obiouvsly the comparisons are about who is the most important wrestler, NOT about who is the best wrestler/worker. For example, Johnny Gargano could be a better worker than The Rock, but in no way he is more important. The comparison of my poll are: Stan Hansen vs John Cena Kurt Angle vs Goldberg AJ Styles vs Randy Orton Jeff Hardy vs Daniel Bryan Batista vs Edge

In your opinion, what would be an example of Bryan better than Styles at selling? For example a specific match.

What do you think about their selling? For example I think that Styles' selling in his best matches was better than Bryan's selling in his best matches.

This year I think that is one of the weakest of Styles' career. He has not any MOTY, and for sure received more opportunities than Daniel Bryan. His matches against Nakamura were disappointing. Also his tv show matches were not better than Daniel Bryan's. For example they both wrestled Rusev, but Bryan's match was better.

This is my opinion about the argument. I think that a right comparison can be done after watching Bryan vs Morishima from Manatthan Mayhem and Styles vs Suzuki from 2014 Climax. I think that Styles sold better his injuries during and after the match. Bryan appears to not selling in some moments. I'm not talking specifically about this match, but also about his match against Nigel from Unified, for example. He didn't sold his fatigue after a long match and he got up immediately after the finish, while Styles was down for almost a minute before getting up. However I think that Bryan is slightly a better storytelling and slightly better at in ring psychologhy.

Good afternoon. I opened this topic to compare Daniel Bryan and AJ Styles about in ring ability. We talked about them in the last topics, but now I'd like to talk about specific aspects, like selling, storytelling and in ring psychologhy. First of all what is the real meaning of in ring psychologhy and storytelling? What are the criteria of judgment? Who is better in these specific aspects, trying to be more objective as possible, not only judging as fans but as impartial critics? Why? What do you think about Danielson's selling, in particular I'm talking about his selling during his indy run, because it's obvious that, for example, WWE imposed him to not sell inuries at Wrestlemania XXX, like also Batista said during an interview, so in that case it's not Danielson's fault. Do you think that the selling is one of his few deficiences inside the ring? Thank you very much

It's obvious that a result of a poll doesn't indicate the truth, but it helps me to know how users think.

However, sometimes, I can misunderstood some sentence, considering that English is not my first language.

The match is so much better than their previous match from Backlash. It was 20 minutes long. Bryan is very good, while Cass is bad as always, althought this is probably the best match in Cass' career. Rating: ***1/4

Before you start any more polls, please offer your own take on some of this stuff. It sometimes feels like you're data mining us. In reality, now I'm forming my knowledge and my critical ability. I'd like to give my opinion, when I will have the full knowledge. I consider all of you as superior to me, now. So you are forming an opinion on whether you are a fan of wrestling history or not? Yeah, that makes sense. I think we've been here before don't you? Yes, I'm a fan of history. I'm reading Heroes and Icons of Greg Oliver, and I'm studying the career of numerous historical wrestlers, like Jim Londos, George Hackenschmidt, Frank Gotch. I like so much, to know new things.

This is Bryan vs Cass from the live event in Waco. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOv2TBvg_F4 There is not a June 2018 section, so I posted it here.

Before you start any more polls, please offer your own take on some of this stuff. It sometimes feels like you're data mining us. In reality, now I'm forming my knowledge and my critical ability. I'd like to give my opinion, when I will have the full knowledge. I consider all of you as superior to me, now.

As the title said, did you ever study wrestling history? If the answer is positive, what do you like to study? Pionier era (Gotch, Burns, Jenkins, Hackenshmidt, Lewis, Stecher......), Jim Londos era, Lou Thesz era, Territorial era? Did you ever read history's books? If yes, what books? Thank you

This is Daniel Bryan vs The Miz from Newcastle. How would you judge it?

1983 1 Ric Flair 2 Bruiser Brody 3 Adrian Adonis 4 Sgt. Slaughter 5 Dynamite Kid 6 Hulk Hogan 7 Stan Hansen 8 Ted DiBiase 9 Terry Gordy 10 The Superstar 11 Paul Orndorff 12 Bob Orton 13 Riki Choshu 14 Butch Reed 15 Harley Race 16 Tatsumi Fujinami 17 Chavo Guerrero 18 Roddy Piper 19 Tiger Mask 20 David Von Erich 21 Ricky Steamboat 22 Greg Valentine 23 Buzz Sawyer 24 Masa Saito 25 DIck Slater 26 Jimmy Snuka 27 Nick Bockwinkel 28 Jumbo Tsuruta 29 Dory Funk 30 Ken Patera 31 Bob Backlund 32 Kevin Von Erich 33 Jerry Lawler 34 Don Muraco 35 Andre the Giant 36 Barry Windham 37 Dos Caras 38 Killer Khan 39 Kerry Von Erich 40 Supers Destroyer 41 Jack Brisco 42 Ivan Koloff 43 Tito Santana 44 El Canek 45 Jerry Stubbs 46 Animal Hamaguchi 47 Junkyard Dog 48 Jim Duggan 49 Terry Funk 50 Mark Rocco 51 Scott McGhee 52 Chris Adams 53 Jimmy Garvin 54 Randy Savage 55 Pat Patterson 56 Yoshiaki Yatsu 57 Brett Sawyer 58 Curt Hennig 59 Tommy Rich 60 Mil Mascaras 61 Dino Bravo 62 Mike Rotundo 63 Dusty Rhodes 64 Iron Sheik 65 Rick Martel 66 El Gran Hamada 67 Isamu Teranishi 68 Rocky Johnson 69 Tully Blanchard 70 Antonio Inoki 71 Carlos Colon 72 Bobby Eaton 73 Dick Murdoch 74 King Kong Bundy 75 Michael Hayes 76 Austin Idol 77 Jay Youngblood 78 Allan Coage 79 Bret Hart 80 Ricky Morton 81 Jake Roberts 82 Mike Graham 83 Jacques Rougeau 84 Abdullah the Butcher 85 The Cobra 86 Akira Maeda 87 Villano III 88 Jim Brunzell 89 Spike Huber 90 Rip Oliver 91 Jerry Brisco 92 Hector Guerrero 93 Mark Lewin 94 Greg Gagne 95 Kantaro Hoshino 96 Great Kabuki 97 Genichiro Tenryu 98 Billy Robinson 99 Davey Boy Smith

Hi. I found the list of the best workers of the 80s, published in WON yearbooks. These lists are not the end of the year awards, but 40/50 people watched a lot of tapes from all over the world, and they sent to Meltzer their ranking of the best workers. It's similar to GWE project. This is the list of 1982: 1 Ric Flair 2 Jimmy Snuka 3 Ted DiBiase 4 Harley Race 5 Bob Backlund 6 Bruiser Brody 7 Hulk Hogan 8 Nick Bockwinkel 9 Roddy Piper 10 Stan Hansen 11 Paul Orndorff 12 The Superstar 13 Dory Funk 14 Andre the Giant 15 Dusty Rhodes 16 Jack Brisco 17 Don Muraco 18 Sgt. Slaughter 19 Antonio Inoki 20 Terry Funk 21 Jumbo Tsuruta 22 Tiger Mask 23 Ricky Steamboat 24 Ken Patera 25 Junkyard Dog 26 Buzz Sawyer 27 Butch Reed 28 Dick Slater 29 Bob Orton 30 Jerry Lawler 31 Adrian Adonis 32 Otto Wanz 33 Dick Murdoch 34 David Von Erich 35 Tatsumi Fujinami 36 Killer Khan 37 Greg Valentine 38 Tommy Rich 39 Ivan Koloff 40 Mil Mascaras 41 Wahoo McDaniel 42 Super Destroyer 43 Rick Martel 44 Kerry Von Erich 45 Giant Baba 46 Pedro Morales 47 Dynamite Kid 48 Tony Atlas 49 Jerry Blackwell 50 Abdullah the Butcher 51 Great Kabuki 52 Steve Keirn 53 Jim Brunzell 54 Iron Sheik 55 Kevin Von Erich 56 Tito Santana 57 Buddy Rose 58 Rocky Johnson 59 Ole Anderson 60 Ron Bass 61 Billy Robinson 62 Paul Jones 63 Jay Youngblood 64 Dos Caras 65 Manny Fernandez 66 Jimmy Garvin 67 Chavo Guerrero 68 Gino Hernandez 69 Blackjack Mulligan 70 Jos LeDuc 71 Superstar Graham 72 David Schultz 73 Larry Zbyszko 74 Randy Savage 75 Bruno Sammartino Jr. Tomorrow I will post the other lists until 1990

For example, I am watching all possible AJPW matches, starting from the beginning. Now I'm arrived to 80s, so I can't give a full opinion about AJPW 90s, although I watched some matches.

I'm recovering everything possible. In a couple of years I will have a complete opinion.