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How would you order Punk, Joe, Bryan and Styles?

In your opinion, who are the other contenders to be the most influential wrestler of Bryan's generation?

Considering that is full time career is ended, how would you judge Bryan Danielson's historical importance? If he never existed how pro wrestling history would have been different? Without Kind of Indies Tournament in 2001, would have ROH ever existed? And without ROH, would have AEW ever existed? What is his role in that? I'm not asking you about his quality, but about historical importance

I'm rewatching every Danielson's match available. I want to make a critic to Bryan's selling. Watching his match against Naomichi Marufuji (ROH A New Level 2008), it seemed that even in the final minutes he did not give signs of tirediness. I have the sensation that he didn't sell anything. This is the critic to him in the period 2001-2010. So I don't think that about selling he is not one of the best of all time, IMO he is below wrestlers like Benoit, Eddie Guerrero, Kobashi, Misawa, Kawada, Okada, Omega who are among the best sellers of all time, but I think that he also worse at selling than wrestlers like Akiyama, Christopher Daniels, Taue. After that he is very improved in selling, I think that in AEW he is one of the best of all time, but I can't say the same for the period 2001-2010. What do you think about that? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFQGbGVKvKE (link Danielson vs Marufuji ROH A New Level 2008)

Meltzer about the comparison Danielson vs Kota Ibushi stated: "Today Danielson and it isn't even close. For a career Ibushi, and it also isn't even close." So he said that Ibushi has been way better than Danielson considering entire career? How would you comment that?

Considering that we are in november, who is/are the MVP/best wrestler/s in the world in 2021? Who is the wrestler that produced more than anybody great matches? Thank you very much

Who is the better in ring performer? Who is more versatile, better at selling, storytelling, in ring psychology?

To analyze these comparisons I'd like to talk about Jericho. He is winning 20-5. Why did you choose him over Goldberg?In the sense, Goldberg is for sure a bigger star than Jericho. Jericho in WWE was always a midcarder-uppercarder, occasionally a mani eventer, while Goldberg has been, for his entire short career, and he's still today a main eventer and in 1998 was a mega star. I think that Jericho's greatness has increased so mich these last 2 years with this NJPW and AEW stints.

Good morning. This poll is about historical importance, obiouvsly not about who is a better worker. The comparisons are: 1) Bret Hart vs The Rock 2) Jushin Liger vs The Undertaker 3) Chris Jericho vs Goldberg 4) Junkyard Dog vs Kevin Nash 5) Daniel Bryan vs AJ Styles Thank you very much

Good morning. This poll is about historical importance, obiouvsly not about who is a better worker. The comparisons are: 1) Kurt Angle vs Chris Jericho 2) The Undertaker vs Bret Hart 3) Hiroshi Tanahashi vs Kenta Kobashi 4) Daniel Bryan vs Big Show 5) AJ Styles vs Scott Hall Thank you very much

Hi guys, I returned opening the comparisons about who is a better in ring performer? The criteria are storytelling, in ring psychologhy, selling, quality of matches, workrate, cleaning in the execution of moves. The comparisons are: Bret Hart vs Ric Flair Kazuchika Okada vs Toshiaki Kawada Mitsuharu Misawa vs Kenta Kobashi Bryan Danielson vs Jumbo Tsuruta Hiroshi Tanahashi vs Akira Taue Thank you very much

I'm sorry JerryvonKramer, however, in the poll you voted the opposite wrestlers that you've chosen here.

Good morning. This poll is about historical importance, obiouvsly not about who is a better worker. The comparisons are: 1)Randy Savage vs Mitsuharu Misawa 2)Ultimate Warrior vs Chris Jericho 3)Jake Roberts vs Kurt Angle 4)Akira Taue vs Jeff Hardy 5)Edge vs Rick Rude Thank you very much

In every forum I compared Bryan to Edge he won by a wide margin, even on wrestlingclassics.

On Wrestlingclassics forum I opened a same poll. These are the results: Gus Sonnenberg vs Tom Jenkins 5-3 Bret Hart vs Roddy Piper 6-18 Andre the Giant vs Giant Baba 19-5 Toshiaki Kawada vs Chris Jericho 10-13 Hiroshi Tanahashi vs Kensuke Sasaki 12-5 Jushin Liger vs Kenta Kobashi 16-4 Mitsuharu Misawa vs Goldberg 23-3 Jake Roberts vs Eddie Guerrero 11-9 Daniel Bryan vs Lex Luger 24-2 CM Punk vs Masahiro Chono 12-11

Thanks. About Bryan what is your position? In the sense, what do you think about Coffey's statement about the fact that Bryan's historical importance is a little overrated? If the answer was only about historical importance, without positivity, how would have you compared Bryan, for example, to Edge, Big Show, Randy Orton, AJ Styles, wrestlers that are probably more well known by people (if you analyze google trends data Bryan is very weak) , considering that they have more longeivity and they were on top during more popular periods, but for sure they didn't inspire so many wrestlers like Bryan did and more importantly for sure his style has been more influential.

If there would have not been the term "in a positive way" how would have you voted alla the comparisons? In the sense, would have you vote base on popularity and being more well known ? In the sense, probably considering these comparisons Jericho, Batista, Edge and Show are for sure more well known but does that mean that they are more important, without considering positivity and negativity way? About Jericho vs Kawada, what inducted you in voting for Jericho?

What is also your opinion about Jericho vs Kawada and AJ vs Big Show? Especially about Styles vs Show, did you vote for Big Show, in particular because AJ's career is still in progress like in the case of Bryan?

Guys, what is your argument about Chris Jericho over Toshiaki Kawada?

Good afternoon.. I opened this new topic in which you can compare the historical importance of wrestlers. Obiouvsly the comparisons are about who is the most important wrestler, NOT about who is the best wrestler/worker. For example, Johnny Gargano could be a better worker than The Rock, but in no way he is more important. How much important is popularity of fame in judging historical importance? In the sense, for sure, Big Show is so much more known by people than AJ Styles, but does that mean that Show is more important?  The comparison of my poll are: Chris Jericho vs Toshiaki Kawada Kenta Kobashi vs Jushin Liger Batista vs Kurt Angle Daniel Bryan vs Edge Big Show vs AJ Styles Thank you very much

I don't like the way he hit them. Obiouvsly it's not really a critic, but considering how awesome he is, it's the only thing in which I think he is not perfect.

The only thing that I don't like about Kobashi are his chops. They are really bad, in my opinion, especially comparing them to Benoit's chops for example. What do you think about Danielson vs Akiyama?

Hi guys, Merry Christmas, I returned opening the comparisons about who is a better in ring performer? The criteria are storytelling, in ring psychologhy, selling, quality of matches, workrate, cleaning in the execution of moves. The comparisons are: Kenta Kobashi vs Toshiaki Kawada Hiroshi Tanahashi vs AJ Styles Kenny Omega vs Kazuchika Okada Bryan Danielson vs Jun Akiyama Yuji Nagata vs Akira Taue Thank you very much

If I'm not wrong the new wrestlers in the ballot are: Paul Jones Johnny Rougeau Samoa Joe Kenny Omega Universo 2000 I think that Joe will not get 10% of votes. I think that he will be dropped from the ballot next year. About Omega I think that he has great chances to be inducted this year, considering how much Meltzer likes him, and we know that a lot of voters are strongly influenced by him, like the induction of Minoru Suzuki, last year, shows.

It's time for the 2018 Hall of Fame elections. This ballot is being sent out to major wrestling stars, past and present, major management figures in the industry, writers and historians. If you are getting this, you are being asked your opinion on who should be inducted into this year's Hall of Fame class. The criteria for the Hall of Fame is a combination of drawing power, being a great in-ring performer or excelling in ones field in pro wrestling, as well as having historical significance in a positive manner. A candidate should either have something to offer in all three categories, or be someone so outstanding in one or two of those categories that they deserve inclusion. The names listed below are those under consideration for this year. To be eligible, a performer must have reached their 35th birthday and completed ten years since their debut as a full-time performer, or be someone who has been a full-time pro wrestler for at least 15 years. Longevity should be a prime consideration rather than a hot two or three year run, unless someone is so significant as a trend-setter or a historical figure in the business, or valuable to the industry, that they need to be included. However, just longevity without being either a long-term main eventer, a top draw and/or a top caliber in-ring performer should be seen as relatively meaningless. The election is broken down into a number of categories. You should check each category for wrestlers that you feel you are familiar enough with based on geography that you've either traveled or are familiar with, and based on the time you have followed pro wrestling. You do not have to vote for a wrestler in every category you've checked. The ballot is also broken down to wrestlers and those who are not pro wrestlers but have been valuable parts of the industry. The maximum number of wrestlers that you can vote for all the categories is ten. You can pick as few as zero if you don't believe anyone on this list deserves inclusion. For wrestling executives, managers, announcers and other outside the ring performers, you can vote for them and they are not counted against the ten. You can vote for as many as five of them. All responses are confidential. There is nothing to worry about politically about any involvement in this process. Your selections will not be revealed unless you choose to do so yourself. Anyone who receives mention on 60% of the ballots from the geographical region and time frame (broken down as Continental United States & Canada; Mexico; Japan; and the rest of the world) will be added to the Hall of Fame in the class of 2018. If you are unfamiliar with any of the candidates due to geography of having never seen them, that is fine. Ballots are sent to many people from all over the world and from different wrestling cultures so that everyone has as fair a shot at possible. The breakdown for modern and historical performers is 30 years ago, or 1988. So if the last year the person was a headliner, or was a key figure in the industry, was prior to 1988, they would be in the historical class. All performers who receive mention on 10% to 59.9% of the ballots from their geographical region or era will remain on the ballot for consideration next year. All those who receive less than 10% of the vote will be dropped from next year's ballot. They can return in two years based on if there is significant feedback from voters who say they will vote for them. This is mostly for wrestlers who are still active who may improve their career legacy, but can be for retired wrestlers if voters believe they should be put on or returned to the ballot. In addition, in following the lead of the baseball Hall of Fame, which is the model here, we have a 15-year-rule. The following candidates have been on the ballot since 2004. In baseball, this would be their last year of eligibility. Here, if they don't get at least 50% of the votes in this year's election they will be removed from the ballot. If they are modern candidates, they can be brought back in the historical performers era in two years if it is more than 30 years since their career as a Hall Fame level performer is up: The following candidates will be dropped from next year's ballot unless they are elected in or garner 50% of the vote: Jun Akiyama Red Bastien Cien Caras Jerry Jarrett Blue Panther Kiyoshi Tamura John Tolos Johnny "Wrestling II" Walker Please return this ballot by October 20th. You can e-mail the ballot back to [email protected] or fax it to 408-244-3402 or mail (please do so by October 15th) to Wrestling Observer, P.O. Box 1228, Campbell, CA 95009-1228. Please check by every category you are familiar with I FOLLOWED THE HISTORICAL PERFORMERS ERA CANDIDATES Johnny Barend Red Bastien June Byers Wild Bull Curry Cowboy Bob Ellis Don Fargo Archie "Mongolian Stomper" Gouldie Chavo Guerrero Sr. Rocky Johnson Paul Jones Sputnik Monroe Blackjack Mulligan Johnny Rougeau George Steele John Tolos Enrique Torres Von Brauners & Saul Weingeroff Johnny "Wrestling II" Walker Bearcat Wright I FOLLOWED THE MODERN PERFORMERS IN U.S/CANADA CANDIDATES Tully Blanchard & Arn Anderson w/J.J. Dillon Junkyard Dog Edge Bill Goldberg Samoa Joe Rick Martel Randy Orton C.M.Punk Sgt. Slaughter Trish Stratus Kerry Von Erich Ultimate Warrior I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN JAPAN CANDIDATES Jun Akiyama Cima Satoshi Kojima & Hiroyoshi Tenzan Yoshiaki Fujiwara Hayabusa Kota Ibushi Yuji Nagata Tetsuya Naito Kenny Omega Kiyoshi Tamura Akira Taue I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN MEXICO CANDIDATES Los Brazos (Brazo de Oro & Brazo de Plata & El Brazo) Cien Caras Caristico Ultimo Guerrero Ruben Juarez Karloff Lagarde Los Misioneros de la Muerte (El Signo & El Texano & Negro Navarro) Blue Panther L.A. Park Huracan Ramirez Univero 2000 Vampiro Villano III Dr. Wagner Jr. I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN EUROPE/AUSTRALIA/NEW ZEALAND/PACIFIC ISLANDS/AFRICA Sypros Arion Big Daddy Dominic DeNucci Horst Hoffman Billy Joyce Killer Karl Kox Mario Milano Kendo Nagasaki Jackie Pallo Rollerball Mark Rocco Johnny Saint Ricki Starr Otto Wanz NON-WRESTLERS Bill Apter Lord James Blears Dave Brown Jim Crockett Jr. Jim Crockett Sr. Howard Finkel Ed Francis Gary Hart Jimmy Hart Jerry Jarrett Larry Matysik Don Owen Steve Rickard George Scott Stanley Weston Thanks to Steve Yohe, who posted that on wrestlingclassics forum.