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[1998-03-30-WCW-Nitro] Sting & Lex Luger vs Kevin Nash & Randy Savage
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in March 1998
The FUCKING DISCIPLE again. Good fuckity God. My Most Overrated Award is a stone cold (no pun intended) clinch. He can't even perform his run-in properly, diving in the ring in plain sight of Billy Silverman and then almost forgetting to put Nash on top. Nash is in full Big Lazy mode here.- 4 replies
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Larry Z, incredulously: "In an MMMBop, it's gone??!" Nothing match and Jannetty looks pretty stiff and toasty, but that isn't the story. Jericho reveals that Dean Malenko only knows about 60 holds (he counted), and decides to rattle off all 1,004 holds that he knows. ARMBAR! Prince Nakamaki comes out to spoil all the fun, and reveals that he was trained by Boris Malenko as well, and refuses to let Jericho continue to dishonor his memory. Jericho throws a fit and now has a stopover program while we wait for Deano to return. TL;DR: Segment of the Year.
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Hyping up *that* main event--between two guys who belonged in that Attitude montage with Blassie and Ladd et al--was NOT the way to respond to WrestleMania, nuh-uh. More face time for the Disciple. Nash finally saves the segment--"Savage said there may be one or there may be many behind you, waiting to stick a knife in your back. You don't gotta worry about me: I'll shoot you right between the eyes!" Big Sexy's actually been on a roll this past week since he's got a brand new fresh storyline to push. Hogan won't let Nash use any NWO members as a partner tonight, but Nash says he already has a partner. Clearly they're trying to tease that it's Scott Hall.
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[1998-03-29-WWF-Wrestlemania XIV] Post-Show Press Conference
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in March 1998
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[1998-03-29-WWF-Wrestlemania XIV] Shawn Michaels vs Steve Austin
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in March 1998
I think I have to end up closer to Loss on this spectrum. It doesn't quite transcend serious analysis on the level of Warrior vs. Savage at WM7 where the whole is so much greater than the X's and O's, but it's another match where in the end, the moment matters much more than the mechanics and the individual pros and cons of the quality of work. Whether the WWF knew in advance that Michaels was done or not (and it seems that they did), they couldn't have done a more effective job in getting him over beforehand as a guy who could play through pain and adversity...until he couldn't. Even someone like me, who's predisposed to hate him in general and as a DX member specifically, is having a hard time coming up with a gutsier HBK performance, even if it's far from his best overall. You can't accuse Michaels of not leaving it all in the ring here, and as a swan song it seems rather fitting.- 14 replies
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[1998-03-29-WWF-Wrestlemania XIV] The Undertaker vs Kane
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in March 1998
I remember this being okay-ish, maybe even surprisingly good considering who it was. This has to be the closest we ever got to the Streak being busted before it was the STREAK, right? I recall being surprised that Kane didn't go over here and in retrospect I kind of still am. They do go all-out to protect Kane as much as possible in a clean defeat--it takes three tombstones to (barely) put him down and he gets up and lays out Undertaker after the match with a tombstone of his own onto a chair.- 10 replies
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Yeah, this is still as glorious as ever. Pete has heat even before he starts ragging on the Red Sox, and gets some pretty huge boos for that Buckner line. JR: "King, did you prep Pete Rose?"
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That makes for two Dusty Finishes on one show, after Shamrock/Rock earlier, which is a tad excessive. This was pretty fun, with a few inventive spots. In addition to the falling ladder, Billy Gunn baseball-sliding his own partner out of the way so Jack collided with the Dumpster was pretty boss, as was the spike power bomb on Funk into the Dumpster. Memorable finish as Funk forklifts both Outlaws into a backstage Dumpster and traps the lid shut with the pallet. Owen-HHH notwithstanding, this seemed to be designed to be a feelgood, crowd-pleasing show, so I do get why they had the Hardcore Legends go over here since they pretty much had to. At the same time, the titles belong more with the NAO. I guess they just booked themselves into a corner, though I think they could have gotten by in having this simply be "non-sanctioned" and not have the belts at stake at all.
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[1998-03-29-WWF-Wrestlemania XIV] The Rock and Gennifer Flowers
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in March 1998
Of all the standout segments we've seen the Rock in since late '97, this might have gone the farthest in making him a star. -
[1998-03-29-AJPW-Championship Carnival] Mitsuharu Misawa vs Toshiaki Kawada
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in March 1998
Yeah, I've complained about draws being telegraphed before, but this was one of the rare times when a draw is telegraphed almost a month before the match even starts. For goodness sake, these two are headlining the Tokyo Dome a few weeks from now, there's no fucking way that either guy is pinning the other here. This has a hot start and a hot close even if the finish is predictable, with a softer middle. Loss has it nailed--this is a big improvement over the '97 match but the rivalry still feels played out and Kawada's big meaningful singles win long overdue.- 7 replies
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[1998-03-26-AJPW-Championship Carnival] Toshiaki Kawada vs Jun Akiyama
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in March 1998
Yes, the Akiyama stretch plum was the turning point, as this went from a fairly routine Carny match to something a little more special. I don't think it's any kind of high-end AJPW match but it was fun and it established Akiyama as a guy unafraid of the big guns even if he's not on their level in a singles environment yet.- 6 replies
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Al rocks with Head while scrawling marker on a whiteboard behind him, as we get soundbites from various Shane Douglas promos. I do rather like the idea of the self-serious Franchise being forced almost against his will into defending his title against a weirdo like Snow.
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Good promo with more editing so this very well could have been Shawn working more of his own angle here, as I thought the threats towards Vince were. Still a strong promo on Shawn's part. Triple H is there, and nothing has been done to put Owen over in this feud at all, either by promo or by a match result or angle--#politicalhit indeed.
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They're still working hard to make this first meeting a big deal with it being brother vs. brother. It is overwrought and overdone and at times ridiculously silly, but at least there's some gravitas to the feud here. Compare and contrast with the who-cares Steiner split which has some lip service paid to the possible emotions involved, but is really Just Another Turn.
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The Quebecers, and now Double J. It's like 1995 all over again.
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[1998-03-23-WWF-Raw] New Age Outlaws, Cactus Jack & Chainsaw Charlie
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in March 1998
Well, Jacques still has the nice dropkick, at least. I have no idea what this re-signing was about unless they were just desperate to get some WCW guys, any guys. I don't get what the tuxes and dates with blow-up dolls had to do with anything, either. -
Jericho stuns the wrestling world by revealing that Larry Lane actually ransacked his gear, belt, and mask and faced Malenko on his own. I believe the conspiracy has officially begun.
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A very good 10-minute match, and maybe even the best TV bout we'll see in 1998 though I know Foley/Funk could be a strong contender for that spot in a weak year, or maybe some random cruiser bout I don't remember. Even the chinlock worked--it wasn't an ideal way to go but Sting could afford to slow things down being the champ, and Page worked great from underneath, constantly flailing and fighting to avoid having his shoulders pinned. DDP moves this along but Sting works hard, even busting out a top-rope splash attempt for the first time in forever. The hot crowd also helps this, as they're not just into the stars but into the psychology and transitions and key spots of the match, like a tried-and-true Louisville wrestling crowd. And of course the great finish, so good that they'd recycle it in '99. No question there needed to be more of this on Nitro and Thunder from week to week, not just from a quality standpoint but as a point of difference from the WWF.
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[1998-03-23-WCW-Thunder] Chavo Guerrero Jr vs Ultimo Dragon
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in March 1998
Eddy now holds control over his nephew's contract, and profusely apologizes to Mando, Chavo, Hector, and especially grandma, for what an embarrassment Chavo, Jr. is. This is about as funny as the best of Chris Jericho and I want to see more of this feud again.- 4 replies
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[1998-03-22-AJPW-Championship Carnival] Mitsuharu Misawa vs Akira Taue
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in March 1998
Are they trying to get Taue's big boot over as a killer finish now? He won the RWTL with it and now he's beaten the Man with it. Uninspiring action from what we see.- 5 replies
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6:05 Superpodcast Episode #25: Goin' To Rasslin'
PeteF3 replied to Bix's topic in Publications and Podcasts
Yoshihiro Momota, Rikidozan's other son, did wrestle briefly, but did most of his work as AJPW's ring announcer. I'm surprised Bix forgot about the Hamadas when trying to think of other Japanese families. You also have brothers George & Shunji Takano. Edit: Seiji Sakaguchi's son, who I knew was in MMA, is now doing wrestling. Other British families without comment: the Husseys (Jumping Jim Hussey and son Mark, who later took the last name Rocco), the Royals (Bert Royal & Vic Faulkner), King Ben & Kid McCoy, and Wild Angus Campbell & Steve McHoy/Steve Casey. Among others. Did Brian Crabtree ever wrestle or did he just promote and officiate? Kendo Nagasaki & Gorgeous George Gillette were a couple.