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    Wasn't the piledriver ban done after Owen broke Austin's neck?
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    MPro Mask League 1995 has a handful of good Delfin singles outings.
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    The fact that he got over made me really puzzled by the "how can they give the title to a loser like DDP" smark reaction to his title win in early '99. He'd headlined multiple successful PPVs at that point, and was more deserving than the Hogans and Savages and Nashs of the world.
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    Inoki vs Hogan in the '83 IWGP title has to be Hogan's most-watched match. The Jan '84 issue says the TV audience for it was 36 million.
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    Yeah but that has nothing whatsoever to do with big move desensitization, ie. "what's next a 1080 moonsault off the ceiling while you're lit on fire?"
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    I guess if 'Flair gets caught on the top rope and slammed' is a big spot, but by the mid-80s when you had powerbombs and tiger suplexes and moonsaults Flair was not a 'big spot' guy. Terry pretty much said it again in that interview.
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    DG does a couple 5000+ attendance shows a year and a couple in the 1500-2500 range a month. How about IWRG?
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    I liked Hash/Norton vs Chono/Tenzan a fair amount and would have nominated it had I paid attention.
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    http://web.archive.org/web/20030401144238/...n.com/njpw.html Says he gave it 4*. Which is probably still high, but quite a bit more sensible.
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    When I re-watched a bunch of Nitros that really stood out. For instance the way he'd jump into the chokeslam.
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    That's what I expected was the case. Is there a relevant #3 promotion in Mexico?
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    TV is definitely their big thing.
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    I didn't. I have no idea who's #2 behind WWE. Only that TNA might be #2, and is no smaller than #4.
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    I'm trying to figure out where Dragon Gate stands presently in the wrestling world, and I'm wondering what lucha promotions would be in the discussion. The top 5 by total revenue/success would be (in no particular order): -WWE -TNA -NJ -#1 lucha promotion -Either the #2 lucha promotion or Dragon Gate I'm confident that DG is #2 in Japan at this point. They do much better outside Tokyo than do NOAH or All Japan, they run more shows (I think), and have the overseas revenue streams that while small are still better than nothing. But I have no idea how the stack up to the number of shows, attendance, TV ratings, etc. of what's going on in Mexico.
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    Eh, they aren't really. But I'm sure a certain amount of it was him being polite after they used him.
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    Plenty of old-school guys get blown away by the latest and greatest spotfest while complaining about overkill. I just thought the *proximity* of the two was unique here.
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    I love Terry Funk but sometimes I'm not sure he knows what he's saying. BA: Where is wrestling going in 5 years? TF: Well, if ROH can keep going... (a few minutes pass) TF: Some guys are doing too many big spots. edit: He references Brody as a "Bolshevik"?!
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    He might have botched a moonsault. In fairness he wasn't as good as he got in post-split AJ at that point. Finish was the dragon sleeper.
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    Nothing like breaking news via. fax transmissions. I had a long reply eaten. Argh. I'll just add that I thought Tenryu was the man carrying that tag, and ARAYA~ was a fine whipping boy. Oh and the mistake on the finish is hilarious.
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    That could well be it. Not as though they flogged the angle to death in reality. It was just so actively bad that every segment was interminable.
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    There really was not a significant amount of Misawa/Kotaro pairings. The only other Misawa/Junior vs Heavyweight/Junior type tag I can think of is Misawa/Marufuji vs Kobashi/KENTA from 1/26/03. And the worst part was the number of NJ fanboys defending it, who weeks before were going gaga over Tenzan's push.
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    There might have been a 'Saito challenge' angle before Rikio won the title that I forgot, but if so it was pretty lazy/uninspired booking. Huh? Misawa and Ogawa joined up in summer '98, were tag champs in All Japan and twice in NOAH, and lost the tag titles the second time in early '05. Then Misawa teamed with Suzuki in one match of any note whatsoever (vs Ohtani & Takaiwa in March '05). New Japan spent the year building up Tenzan's title win, then cut him off at the knees because Inoki wanted Nakamura to win a shootfight while IWGP champion. You know what's dumb booking? Putting the belt on a young guy who's about to go into a shootfight! Nakamura wasn't ready to be champ, and Tenzan hadn't been given a chance to run with the ball. Tenzan had totally delivered in the G-1 Climax, he had a reasonably well-received title win, so there was no reason to give up on him and rush Nakamura into the spotlight. But again, it wasn't a traditional 'elevate the next gen' decision, it was an Inoki decision.
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    Yet the fans were right there to get behind Fuchi when he re-emerged in 2000. From what I've seen it's not like Fuchi 'returned to form' in 2000, it's just that he didn't get many chances to show off after his demotion in/from HDA. I recently watched Misawa/Kobashi vs Kawada/Fuchi from 1/7/94. Kawada/Fuchi put on a clinic, and really did better than Kawada/Taue the month before. Baba could have gotten some mileage out of having Fuchi pin Kobashi there, since you could have: -A return match with Misawa/Kobashi winning -Some sort of angle where Taue proves himself against Fuchi, either in a tag or singles -Kawada/Taue getting a win over someone big to set up their May title shot And Fuchi would still be more credible going forward in 6-mans even after 'giving back' multiple times. Oh well.
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    Pretty much my sentiment: lots to love but they could have done better and they fell short of a classic. I'd peg it as the best 60 minute singles match of the decade, though.
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    The problem for New Japan heavyweights was that they weren't producing tons of MOTYCs the way All Japan did, and they didn't have quite the flash of the juniors. I don't think the thought was ever that Chono and Koshinaka were BAD; more that they weren't elite relative to the rest of the world. And I really don't think they were, even with the number of solid/good matches they had. They rarely reached that extra gear in their work that the AJ crew managed several times a year every year. When it was ponderous to trade VHS tapes, it made sense for NJ heavies to get the short end of the stick. Thankfully now, with DVDs being so much easier and the internet offering another means of distribution, the good NJ heavyweight division matches can get the recognition they deserve.
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