Match Listing for Bret Hart DVD

[Guest MJHimJfadeaway23]

From Wrestling Observer

The Bret Hart Story: The Best There Is, Was, and Ever Will Be."

 

-- Clips of Hart in Stampede

-- Hart vs. Tiger Mask in New Japan from 1982

-- Hart Foundation skits

-- Team Canada skits from 1997

-- Hart vs. Davey Boy Smith at Wembley Stadium in 1992

-- Hart vs. Austin at Wrestlemania 1997

-- Hart vs. Michaels at Wrestlemania 1996

-- Hart vs. Henning at Summerslam 1991

-- Hart vs. Benoit in WCW 1999

-- Hart vs. Steamboat in Boston, 1986

-- Hart vs. Savage at Saturday Night's Main Event, 1987

-- Hart vs. DiBiase at a house show in Odessa, TX, 1989

-- Hart vs. Andre in Milan in 1989

-- Hart Foundation vs. The Rockers at Saturday Night's Main Event in 1990

-- Hart Foundation vs. Road Warriors in 1991

-- Hart vs. Ric Flair for the WWE Title in October 1992

-- Hart vs. Yokozuna at Mania 1993

-- Hart vs. Bigelow in Barcelona 1993

-- Hart vs. Owen at Mania 1994

-- Hart vs. Yokozuna at Mania 1994

-- Hart vs. Waltman from July 1, 1994 RAW

-- Hart vs. Owen in White Plains from September 29, 1994 (his favorite match vs. his brother)

-- Hart vs. Hakushi from RAW July 24, 1995 RAW

-- Hart vs. Isaac Yankem from Summerslam 1995

-- Hart vs. Smith PPV match from 1995

-- Hart Foundation vs. Team USA from Canadian Stampede 1997

-- Hart vs. Undertaker in the UK on PPV in 1997

-- Hart vs. Goldberg at Starrcade 1999

 

release date is November 15th

[goodhelmet]

Wow, no Montreal. I am shocked.

[sek69]

Bret doesn't want Montreal to be the sum total of his legacy. I can understand that, but not including it at all is kinda silly. Instead of just dealing with it like grown-ups, now its the elephant in the room no one talks about.

[Guest Cam Chaos]

I'm sure they will include it in some form, just not the full match.

[Marty]

Isn't that the exact same list of matches that they talked about being on there? Did they confirm all of them to be on there? If so, I'm shocked. Especially with the amount of time many of them will take up.

[goodhelmet]

Yeah, with the exception of HBK matches being omitted, those look like the matches I listed for you from the Observer.

 

The only thing I can say is this looks like a must-buy. Seriously, it may blow every other DVD ever released by the Fed out of the water in terms of the quality.

[Marty]

http://s3.invisionfree.com/New_Millennium_...?showtopic=2342

 

Nothing here is set in stone....

 

--- Hart has asked brother Ross to look through the Stampede collection to find hidden gems of Bret fighting DK or other big names. Since time is a major issue, there may be a problem converting the collection in time.

 

--- WWE has had no luck dealing with New Japan to get footage of Hart fighting DK or the original Tiger Mask. Hart has suggested a NJ match with TM in 1982 from Dubai, which he believes is his best singles match against TM. If not, he also suggested their WWF Jr. title match from Japan that year.

 

--- Hart wants several skits of the Hart Foundation and major angles through the years, particularly Team Canada from 1997.

 

--- Meltz guesses these matches will appear on the set...

vs. Davey Boy (Sumemrslam 1992)

vs. Austin (Wrestlemania 13)

vs. HBK (Wrestlemania 12)

vs. Curt Hennig (Summerslam 1991)

vs. Chris Benoit (Owen Tribute match 1999)

 

--- Other matches that have been suggested and are under discussion include...

vs. Ricky Steamboat (3-8-86, Boston)

vs. Randy Savage (11-11-87, SNME)

vs. Ted Deibiase (3-8-89, Odessa, TX)

vs. Andre the Giant (4-23-90, Milan Italy)

Hart Foundation vs. The Rockers (SNME)

Hart Foundation vs. Road Warriors (3-12-91)

vs. Ric Flair (Bret wins first title, 4-13-93)

vs. Owen and vs. Yokozuna (WMX)

vs. Bam Bam Bigelow (4-24-93)

vs. 123 Kid (7-1-94)

vs. Owen (9-29-94, Bret's favorite match with Owen)

vs. Hakushi (7-24-95, RAW)

vs. Isaac Yankem (Summerslam 95)

vs. Jean Pierre Lafitte

vs. Davey Boy Smith (12-17-95 PPV)

Canadian Stampede Main Event

vs. Undertaker (One Night Only 1997)

vs. Goldberg (Starrcade 99)

There's your original post, Helmet. Very same info, just described differently. And the HBK Iron Man is mentioned bother times. The Survivor Series match was never mentioned in your post or this info.

[Marty]

I really want to re-emphasize how I don't want the Bret/HBK Iron Man match on the release (since I already have it on the HBK release two years ago), but since the Shawn Michaels DVD will never be publically released again (thanks to an editing botch they made) and that Vince, Bret and Shawn all love the match, I think we'll get it nonetheless.

[sek69]

What was the editing botch in the HBK DVD?

 

Oh, and the Bret-HBK iron man is still the most boring "great" match ever, no matter how much the smart crowd tries to spin it. The last hot 15 minutes fail to make up for the first 45 minutes of chinlockery.

[Guest The Man in Blak]

It's nice to see the wide variety of picks - they could have easily avoided the 80's or the mid-90's malaise with Isaac Yankem, but they've managed to fit it all in. If all of these matches get in there, this should be one of the better WWE DVD releases ever.

 

And the release date is on my birthday. Nice.

[goodhelmet]

Yeah, I suck. Although, I have to read that Observer because I was sure Meltz mentioned Montreal as a given.

[Marty]

What was the editing botch in the HBK DVD?

 

Oh, and the Bret-HBK iron man is still the most boring "great" match ever, no matter how much the smart crowd tries to spin it. The last hot 15 minutes fail to make up for the first 45 minutes of chinlockery.

If you own the set, watch the HBK-UT HIAC match. Early on, JR mentions "WWF" and they forgot to take it out. This set, of course, was released in the summer of 2003, and this was well when they were heavy into editing stuff. I realize it's incredibly minor, but it's still stuff like this that could lead to more WWF suings. I'm pretty sure it was corrected for the Undertaker set (that match is on that set too).

 

I agree about the match, but I don't think it's as boring as I used to think. There's lots of restholds in the first 40 or so minutes, as you mentioned, but they do break away from it and whip out the dynamic moves from time to time, to make them stand out, I think. Sometimes less is more as far as the early going of a match goes, and this is one of those matches that shows it.

[goodhelmet]

The problem with the WM 12 Ironman isn't that they use restholds. It's that the restholds do not lead to anything. They are there to take up time rather than tell a story.

[sek69]

It was obvious they were pacing themselves for an hour-plus match, but I wouldn't have thought Bret and Shawn needed to work so slow for so long. Maybe HBK was hitting the Jesus Juice before the match.

[Guest The Man in Blak]

I don't know if it's an issue of pacing as much as it is an inability to decide on where to take the match. I'm just speculating, but both guys hated each other at that point and didn't look willing to give away any momentum; it sounds odd to say, but it seemed like it took 30 minutes for both of them to really get on the same page.

[Guest MJHimJfadeaway23]

I don't know if it's an issue of pacing as much as it is an inability to decide on where to take the match.  I'm just speculating, but both guys hated each other at that point and didn't look willing to give away any momentum; it sounds odd to say, but it seemed like it took 30 minutes for both of them to really get on the same page.

They didn't really "hate" each other at that point. And I agree this match isn't that great. Definitely not on par with The Rock vs. Triple H at Judgment Day or even (though only thirty minutes, so they didn't have to use much slow pacing) Ric Rude vs. Ricky Steamboat @ BB 1992.

[Guest brian]

It's nice to see the wide variety of picks - they could have easily avoided the 80's or the mid-90's malaise with Isaac Yankem, but they've managed to fit it all in.  If all of these matches get in there, this should be one of the better WWE DVD releases ever.

 

And the release date is on my birthday.  Nice.

We have the same B-Day!!!

[Guest The Metal Maniac]

The match would still have been a million times better had they gone to a 1-1 or 2-2 tie, instead of 0-0. Then stuff could've actually *happened* during the match.

[Guest The Man in Blak]

I don't know if it's an issue of pacing as much as it is an inability to decide on where to take the match.  I'm just speculating, but both guys hated each other at that point and didn't look willing to give away any momentum; it sounds odd to say, but it seemed like it took 30 minutes for both of them to really get on the same page.

They didn't really "hate" each other at that point. And I agree this match isn't that great. Definitely not on par with The Rock vs. Triple H at Judgment Day or even (though only thirty minutes, so they didn't have to use much slow pacing) Ric Rude vs. Ricky Steamboat @ BB 1992.

Well, I know the much publicized backstage brawl didn't happen until the summer of '97 (IIRC), but there was already a good deal of tension by the time Wrestlemania XII rolled around, as the Clique had managed to keep Hart stuffed in a drawer on the undercard for a fair portion of '95.

[Marty]

Their differences at the time were far more professional than personal, even if that sounds silly. Hart commented at the Q&A session a couple weeks ago about how Michaels was allowed extra time off before WrestleMania to train strenuously while focusing on endurance for the sake of the match, while Hart got to battle slugs like Diesel, Taker and Yokozuna which caused him to slow his style down. Along with being a champ that seemed to be second-fiddle to whatever else was going on in the main event (Shawn winning the Royal Rumble, etc.).

 

The match itself, while not a shoot, had shown some obvious disagreements between the two, such as Michaels sandbagging Hart on a couple occasions, and Hart no-selling (or at least not selling as much as he would) some great moves by Michaels. Both guys really aren't shy about bringing that up, as Hart said, in more ways, that it was a case of two guys trying to outdo each other, which does have multiple meanings. I also remember Shawn on his DVD set, while praising Bret as being the only guy on the roster he could do 60 minutes with, also stating that the conflict, "Was as real as wrestling could get." That too also has many meanings regarding the match.