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I remeber this being first show I ever taped as it was the first day of school, and my parents wanted me in bed early. Does the network cut out the girl singing the National Anthem with Johnny B Badd? I always found it weird that they brought out Steamboat and Austin and then had her come out to sing. I may have missed hearing you guys discuss it, but Jimmy Garvin I think had his contract bought out over the summer, which is why Hayes is now a manager/part time wrestler. Except for a one off appearance at Superbrawl 1994, I think Garvin is gone permanently.

In reference to the JYD/Mr. Hughes sunglasses angle, the incident can be seen briefly here although not very well: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2huvjw The footage is around the 12 minute mark of the video. if I recall, Mr. Hughes tried going face and befriending JYD, but was gone from WCW within weeks of this happening so nothing much came of it.

I saw this a few days ago, but have not seen it discussed much anywhere (scroll down to February 1): https://www.facebook.com/Wrestling-Memories-Tribute-Page-127300010634723/ I am guessing it is true, but just didn't see it discussed or confirmed anywhere. I remember watching his feud with Manny Fernandez on ESPN. I always felt bad for him because the gimmick was he was broke, and things always seemed to get worse for him. And with the ESPN random airings, I never saw a positive payoff for him, but also not sure if there ever was once since Global often left things unresolved with people coming and going so often.

I was at WM17. A friend and I flew from Philadelphia. We bought the tickets when they first went on sale the previous November, and had pretty good seats. Obviously a lot changed in wrestling between Nov 2000 and April 2001. Even being only 19 at the time, it did feel like an end of an era and a huge event. I remember there being a mixed reaction to the Stone Cold turn, but probably the most memorable event of the weekend occurred Saturday night. My friend and I went to Benihanas and we sat with a random group of people who were not in town for Wrestlemania. As we were concluding our dinner, Chris Jericho and Chris Benoit came in. We immediately went over to ask for pictures and autographs. They were extremely nice and asked if we could leave them be while they ate, and after that they would take as many pictures and autographs as we wanted. We were fine with that, but when we went back to our table and told the non-fans we were sitting with, one of the women flipped out saying that athletes are so disrespectful to their fans. She then proceeded to go over to their table and yell at them about not giving us autographs. We were so embarrassed so we just left. Venturing across the street, I think it was a Hyatt, but their was a ton of police there so we figured that the wrestlers must be staying there. We went inside and talked to D Lo Brown for a few minutes and told him we wanted him to go back to the chest protector gimmick. He agreed. Then we bumped in to Al Snow, and my friend accidentally snapped a picture with the flash going off right in his face. Soon after, we were escorted out of the hotel since we were not staying there. As we were being escorted out, Vince's Iimo rolled up. All in all, a memorable weekend.

Do you think Bischoff avoided using Neidhart and Bulldog with Bret due to the agreement where they could not use the Hart Foundation name and to avoid any potential lawsuits?

Yea, I see your point. I am not sure either. Interestingly, profightdb lists it as Joe Cruz for comparison. http://www.profightdb.com/wrestlers/joe-cruz-7211.html

From the Observer... Hiroshi Hase & Akira Nogami beat the imposter Head Hunters (Bob Cook & Joe Cruze) in 5:10. The real Head Hunters no-showed, with the reason being given that since they work for WING in Japan, for political reasons they didn't want to do a job for a New Japan team. Nogami did a Ninja gimmick similar to Great Muta. He really didn't look good here and it didn't matter anyway because the crowd wasn't into this match at all even though all four guys kept it moving and it was never actually bad but the crowd didn't want to see it. Hase pinned one masked guy with a Northern Lights suplex while Nogami did a german suplex on the other (called simultaneous german suplexes by Jim Ross which came off bad because even if you don't know the names of the moves, it was obvious the two guys were doing different moves).

I think I remember seeing a Steele vs. Savage (not from SNME) match that had Malenko as ref.

I turned it off as well. I have listened to almost all their shows as I found it useful at the gym as their banter does not require constant attention. However, I found this pretty disrespectful in this instance. I know they kid around a lot, but it did seem pretty petty especially since they ask for donations and receive pay via patreon to do their podcasts, and people here are volunteering their time. I simply did not see the need in calling out people who are donating their time on here giving advice to a college kid looking to grow a podcast, which I believe was the original poimt of that thread. In comparison, I definitely learn more from a 90 minute WTBPP podcast than from their podcast. I am not trying to be critical, but with their banter I often lose track of what match they are discussing or who won. Like I mentioned above, it is good for when I cannot give it my entire focus, but not when I want to learn something or hear analysis.

I thought the over the top rule was already in effect here and for several years prior. However, the enforcement was spotty at best including having it dq someone in one match while it being allowed in another match on the same show. Hearing Tony try to explain the logic behind it was often hilarious. I think the rule ended some time around the beginning of the NWO era as I remember the announcers saying they were doing away with the over the top rule dq to combat the NWO breaking all the rules.

Great show, as usual. To provide some context on the light heavyweight title, after Brad Armstrong wins the title, he vacates it at Clash 20 in September due to injury. This is also when Pillman turns heel when he finds out Armstrong will not be defending the title. They announce a tournament will be held in the future, but that never happens. I think Watts wanted to lose some of the titles as the US tag team titles were dropped at the end of July. The tv title was also vacated in September/October when the Steiners left, and the tournament to fill that vacancy was not held until 1993. Clash 20 also marks the end of the top rope rule as they ask that you call the hotline ($1.49 a minute of course) to vote to rescind the rule. I remember they gave the results as something like 90% voted to rescind, but apparently 10% liked the rule and wanted to keep it.

I have only listened to the first half of the show so far so my apologies if you discussed it during the WCW portion later, but in reference to your discussion about the possible WWF departures of Jake Roberts and Bobby Heenan in October 1990, I feel that WCW would have been wise to sign them and use them in the Black Scorpion angle. The angle could not have gotten any worse at that point (unless they did a Black Scorpion Coal Miner's Glove match at Starrcade), but inserting Roberts and Heenan in that angle would have saved it I think, and eliminated the hokey magic tricks that occurred at the Clash in November. Heenan could have been used to solidify the storyline as it pertained to the "California, 1985" stuff. Heenan, being billed from Beverly Hills, could have said he was trying to recruit Sting in 85 and was denied, and Roberts could have easily played the dark heel. Overall, a definite improvement I think over what happened.

I listened to the first hour or so this morning and do recall the change up in WCW Saturday Night. I wanted to add some tidbits of info as I recall them in regards to the change of WCW Saturday Night. I think the first Saturday in April is when it first changed from simply "WCW" to "WCW Saturday Night", and I remember Ventura cohosting with Ross. After that they did several weeks of guests hosts including Kip Frey, Bill Fralic, Dusty Rhodes, and Jason Hervey. I think these studio audience segments were filmed at CNN. The change reminded me of WWF Primetime circa 1991 where you had a studio audience and do interviews on the set, and then throw to matches that often the guest host would assist in the commentary (Hervey was particularly awful). One of the hallmarks of these shows was that the main events were generally 2 out of 3 falls matches. I am not sure how long the program lasted in this format, but I am pretty sure by the Fall, it had reverted back to the format that most know it by at Center Stage. I have several of these episodes, but unfortunately not the one hosted by Frey although I do remember seeing segments of it, and I thought he seemed quite professional and knowledgeable. One of those early shows also including a sit down interview with I think Nikita Koloff where he is answering questions and there is a heckler in the audience that they make seem legit. However, when they pan to the audience member and security goes over, it turns out to be Paul E dressed as a woman, which was quite funny. Thanks for doing the podcast. I always look forward to them.

The 2 different matches also explains why I was confused when listening, and Parv made the comment about Arn making the hand signal indicating he wanted to be a 4-time TV champ. I was wondering why they would make that insinuation since Barry had nothing to do with the TV Title in 1991, and Arn was Tag Team Champ at the time. The 6/6/1992 was when Windham was TV champ so the announcers dicussing the hand signal makes more sense.