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JerryvonKramer

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  1. JerryvonKramer

    Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 4

    There is obviously something to this. In the other direction, you sometimes see old footage where the crowd is old guys into the idea of wrestling as a legit sport mostly sitting on their hands as if watching a chess match. There's also a difference between the rowdy Southern 80s crowds and the typical WWF crowd (i.e. not Philly or Baltimore) which was full of kids.
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    Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 4

    I also randomly watched Bischoff vs Flair from December 1998. Holy overbooking! Crowds in 1998 and 2002 were HOT compared to the ones I saw in 2008. I forgot just how over Hogan was in the 2002 run.
  3. JerryvonKramer

    Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 4

    Randomly watching Hogan vs Flair from a Raw in 2002. And one forgets how much Ric in 2002 looked like classic Ric Flair with longer hair. I happened to watch some random Flair matches from the 2004-08 period and he was in much better shape than any of us would recall but noticeably older and with thinned our hair. Flair seemed to age massively between 2002 and 2004.
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    [1991-04-22-WWF-MSG, NY] Roddy Piper vs Ted DiBiase

    Weirdly, I’d never seen this match. Rare Piper loss and rare DiBiase win over a major star (i.e. of Piper’s stature) at a big show. DiBiase was getting a hell of a re-push in 1991 prior to Money Inc which I’ve talked about before. However, as others have said in this thread he was bizarrely uninterested in this match. Sherri was doing everything she possibly could, Piper was hot and doing an excellent sell job. Hard to recall a Ted match where he’s this unengaged. That said, he got to use his old finisher, the figure four in a WWF ring and synched it in pretty well too.
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    WWE Hidden Gems

    Piper vs Valentine is absolutely awesome as everyone has said. I’d drop major snowflakes on it were I in that sort of mood. Hot crowd, intense physical action. Awesome mix of brawling and wrestling. Piper red hot as a face. Can anyone remember where Greg landed in the GWE? The guy was incredible, and had a good 8-10 year peak. I wish we had more full matches from 1980, because it seems his Mid-Atlantic run was electric.
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    WWE Hidden Gems

    The clips of Flair vs Valentine make it look like one of the best matches of all time. Is there a full match from these two from that era anywhere? The stuff in the clips looks phenomenal.
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    WWE Hidden Gems

    Didn’t see it mentioned anywhere in this thread, but Harley Race vs Jack Brisco from 1978 Florida is a nice little treat I don’t recall seeing before. Pretty much both guys in their prime. No commentary. Super heat for Jack, and Race booed heavily. I think this might be a much longer much, probably broadway, clipped down to about 12 minutes. I also watched Buzz Sawyer vs Ted DiBiase from the 1983 Omni show, but too much stalling in the early going but Sawyer was super over with that crowd. For a match containing these two, I disappointed it didn’t contain even one scoop powerslam. BS finish also.
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    NWF, 1983

    The big angle on this week's NWF Tour on Nickelodeon was NWF President, Lou Thesz, finally addressing Mick Foley's repeated requests for a match. Thesz said that at 67 he could still beat Foley any day of the week. The show took place in Alaska, the first time NWF has head to the North West.
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    NWF, 1983

    The shocks keep on coming in the wrestling world as only days after winning the NWA World Title, Tommy Rich has lost it again in an epic encounter with Bruno Sammartino. Rich agreed to face the world number 1 contender which was the NWF Champion who has been undefeated since returning to the ring. The Grand Wizard tried to stop the match from taking place, but he was chased out of the arena by Tommy Rich himself. This is obviously disappointing for Rich but he showed tremendous sportsmanship and good character in the shaking the hand of the man who was his better on the day. Bruno held both titles aloft and it seems that the NWA title and the NWF title will be unified. The NWA title had been active since 1948 and the days of Orville Brown. The current NWF President, Lou Thesz, won the belt in 1949 and held it on and off for most of the 1950s. The next great champion was Gene Kiniski and after him Dory Funk Jr, Jack Brisco, Terry Funk and Harley Race. The title held by Bruno Sammartino will now be called the NWA Undisputed Title and it will be represented by the Big Gold belt. However, it will follow the NWF title lingeage and not the NWA's. In practice this means the belt will be exclusively controlled by the NWF and will no longer be defended in other promotions. Many industry insiders are describing the merging of the titles as a "coup" by Sammartino who has effectively ended the NWA World Title and the idea of the travelling champion. Quite why Sammartino has done this is unknown, but it is suggested he harboured resentment at the NWA title going back to his days with the WWWF. It is not yet known what happened in Canada and how Timothy Flowers ever beat Ric Flair, some speculate that it was a screw job. Whatever the case, events accelerated very quickly. Wrestling Superfan Dave Meltzer has suggested that Flowers was paid a large sum of money by Bruno to do the screw job on Flair, get the belt down to the NWF to drop it quickly for Rich and who then quickly dropped it to him in the title vs. title bout. Perhaps the full story will never be known, but this week will surely go down in history as one of the most eventful the wrestling world has ever seen.
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    NWF, 1983

    In the NWF's first ever show in Atlanta, Tommy Rich made history this evening by beating the new NWA Heavyweight Champion, Timothy Flowers with a Thesz Press in 32 minutes. Jubilant fans rushed to the ring to celebrate with their hero who was joined by Hulk Hogan and the Hart brothers as the champagne flowed. Timothy Flowers had been champion for just a few days, during which he had a single title defence against Cien Caras is CMLL, before dropping the belt. Rich becoming the champion is seen as a major coup and power move by the NWF who now control the world title. This is Rich's second NWA world title after winning his first in 1981. The whole card was devoted to the surprise match with only a Rick Rude squash on the undercard.
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    NWF, 1983

    League of Champions was a hot show tonight with The Grand Wizard bringing in King Curtis Iaueka who had a wild brawl with Bruno in the main event, in the second excellent title match in as many weeks. The semi-main saw The Spoiler and Mark Lewin reunited against Bret and Bruce Hart. Bret was a real star in the match. Also, Hulk Hogan and Roddy Piper got into a pull-apart brawl after Piper interrupted Hogan celebrating a win over Paul Christy. The bad blood between these two has been simmering for weeks ever since Hogan cost Piper his shot at the NWA title at The Wrestling Classic as revenge for injuring him in the NWF National title tournament earlier in the year. Something is going to have to give soon! Finally, in news that has shocked the wrestling world, Ric Flair 2-year NWA title reign came to an end last night as he dropped the belt to ... Tim Flowers at a Canadian All-Star Wrestling show. The circumstances around this change are not well understood, and it remains to be seen if Flowers will hold the belt for long.
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    NWF, 1983

    NWF Tour show featured a Hogan interview about Roddy Piper and Savage defending his belt against Dan Miller. This was the first time NWF have run a show in the Mid-South area, specifically in the McGree Arena, New Mexico. These shows have been in a holding pattern, but the storylines will begin to ramp up going into August for the September Supercard "Good Night New York".
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    NWF, 1983

    League of Champions saw Bobby Eaton get a big chance to add to the Five Star gold collection by challenging Bruno Sammartino for the NWF title in what many are already calling the match of the year. The match ended with Roddy Piper running in from the commentary both to try to hand Bobby Eaton a pair of brass knucks, but it backfired as Bruno spotted him and rushed for Eaton and in the confusion Piper accidentally clobbered him. Earlier they had appeared on Piper's Pit in a tease for what was to follow. Meanwhile, Denucci's in-ring return continued with his old partner Nick DeCarlo coming back in an unsuccessful bid to win the NWF tag titles. Denucci and DeCarlo had been tag champions in Canada in the 1970s. DeCarlo had also tagged with NWF star Frank Monte and perhaps the two of them will reunite in the future to try to recapture their old success.
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    NWF, 1983

    The NWF Tour on Nickelodeon drew its biggest ever gate in the McCann Ice Arena, Poughkeepsie, New York. Chris Colt, who has already handed in his notice and massively fallen out with the management team was buried on the show as Bobby Eaton defeated him in less than 30 seconds. Dominic Denucci made a surprise appearance to challenge Randy Savage for his NWF National title while Mick Foley continued his demented attempts to wrestle NWF President Lou Thesz, who has yet to respond to the challenge.
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    NWF, 1983

    League of Champions saw the debut of The Spoiler who -- like Mark Lewin -- has signed a 3-month contract. He is being managed by The Grand Wizard and lost against Bruno Sammartino in a bid to win the NWF title. Elsewhere on the show, Piper's Pit was essentially a massive circle jerk for The Five Star faction as Piper was joined by his stablemates Randy Savage, The Andersons and Bobby Eaton. Savage and The Andersons showed off their belts. Savage bad mouthed Tommy Rich and Piper berated Hulk Hogan. Yatsu worked his last date for NWF with Mr Pogo already having walked out.
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