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[1998-02-21-WWF-Raw Saturday Night] Michael Hayes and Kane
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in February 1998
Really neat video package that sort of contradicts the previous standard WWF history--Hayes, not Cyndi Lauper, gets on-air credit for blending rock 'n wrestling. I like how they make sure to show a clip of Hayes using his boot as a weapon, too, considering how he tries to defend himself against Kane. As far as segments where Kane destroys people go I'm still partial to him tombstoning the Phoenix Suns gorilla mascot. -
[1998-02-21-WWF-Raw Saturday Night] Interview: Steve Austin
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in February 1998
Quick and to the point--Austin and his fanny pack have words for Chyna, Michaels, and Tyson, threatening JR all the while. -
[1998-02-21-WWF-Raw Saturday Night] Jim Cornette promo
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in February 1998
This isn't a bad promo but it's pretty badly out of place in this environment--I mean, it's SUPPOSED to be out of place, but even by that standard this angle just doesn't work. To give a partial answer to my question closing Thunder, I'm guessing more people give a fuck about the Luger/Savage alliance than about the return of Tommy fucking Young. -
[1998-02-21-WWF-Raw Saturday Night] Interview: Marc Mero & Sable
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in February 1998
This is about as good of a performance from Sable as you can hope for. Mero is pretty admirably shameless here, explaining that when Sable put his hands on him at No Way Out, he simply tripped over something. -
[1998-02-21-WWF-Raw Saturday Night] Chyna and Steve Austin
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in February 1998
I don't remember this angle going anywhere, but the video itself is pretty great, putting Chyna over as DX's anchor as well as her athletic accomplishments while we get footage of her mauling people. Hard to believe she was once seen as a Jacqueline ripoff--WCW really had something in her but couldn't have put together a video like this to make a new star to save their lives. -
Are we seriously supposed to buy that Savage has been unconscious for TWO HOURS? By all accounts he should be dead, even by pro wrestling logic. Goofiness of Savage in a Sting mask and the weird commentary aside--clearly none of these three were clued in as to what to get over or what was going to happen in this segment--this is a pretty WCW-by-numbers finish as has seemingly been the case for the past 4 or 5 months of TV. WCW did a great job in '96 and '97 of building week-to-week suspense and creating mysteries, but who really gives a fuck if Lex Luger and Randy Savage are in cahoots?
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Yes, it's cool to see someone update the Road Warrior template for where wrestling had been in the '90s, and I wish the submission aspect of his work had been played up more. Hard to argue with that pop for the spear and jackhammer, though. Finlay goes all out to get this guy over huge, bumping like crazy and begging off, getting in virtually zero offense. But a fun squash nevertheless.
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Tenay is standing with Chris Jericho in a location where they never do interviews solely so they have an excuse to chase after a surprise NWO attack outside the arena on Savage & Luger. Well, points for having some sort of reason for a camera being there, but yeah, that intro was pretty emblematic of where WCW was going.
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Why doesn't the cameraman let him out?
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[1998-02-18-ARSION-Grand Opening] Yumi Fukawa vs Candy Okutsu
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in February 1998
Some good stuff here blending some disparate styles. The work was intense throughout but the pace wasn't blistering--I don't know much about ARSION but I'm cautiously optimistic that it can take up the mantle of early-'90s JWP in utilizing a more deliberate pace and a more mat-based focus as a point of difference from AJW. This was more of an appetizer match so I don't really expect it to be on a MOTY list, but it's definitely the best match of February for whatever that's worth.- 8 replies
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I don't know what you people are talking about, this left me PUMPED to see Bret Hart against some guy no one had ever heard of. Yeah, yeah, it's Crush, but calling him "Brian Adams" like we all know that name (well, we do, but you know what I mean) doesn't do him, the NWO, or Bret any favors.
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Saturn looks weird with hair. He makes a nuisance of himself at ringside, interfering against Martel and indirectly costing Booker the match. I hope there's a real hidden Martel gem either on this Yearbook or on the Network somewhere.
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I really get what Bischoff was going for with these, trying to sell Nitro to better advertisers by showing that the program was watched by hip 18-34-year-olds. But some of these make me long for the days of the WCW Amateur Challenge...no, wait, nothing was worse than that. Nevermind.
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"Attica! Attica!" Yeah, that was a little more amusing the first time Nash did it, 2 years ago. His Hannibal Lecter impersonation is funnier and relates better to the storyline, but this angle is still, so, SO dumb. It's possible judging from the commentary that Tony Schiavone still doesn't know who the individual members of Public Enemy are.
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Lots of red flags for Spicoli leading up to this, sadly. This would be followed by a rather infamous moment later on, where Zbyszko refused to break character when talking about him, saying only that he wouldn't say anything at all "out of respect for his family." Huge, huge amounts of online criticism to Larry Z for that, mostly justified. This wasn't 1981 where it was vital to maintain kayfabe hatred for Bruno in and out of the ring.
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A pretty decent to good match but it feels like it be a really kickass TV main event masquerading as a PPV headliner. The structure is a little goofy and it ends too suddenly, and there are numerous cringeworthy-in-retrospect head shots here, but it ultimately accomplished its rather modest goals of teasing us of the big WM matches and giving the fans a satisfying payoff. Chyna getting attacked for the first time was a bigger moment than anything in the actual match--normally male babyface on heel woman violence isn't something that should be cheered, but they'd spent a full year establishing Chyna as being as tough as any male wrestler, so I'm okay with this.
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And the music! The MUSIC! That will be the greatest tragedy of all.
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[1998-02-12-WCW-Thunder] Hulk Hogan and Randy Savage
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in February 1998
This was a good segment once the opening formalities were out of the way--Hogan calling out Bret Hart for the first time doesn't get anywhere NEAR the reaction it would have a month earlier. Go figure. Still, Hogan pretending that he was going to apologize to Savage only to turn it around and say that Randy owed *him* one was pretty good, as was Savage's reaction. Looks like Randy is pretty much a babyface again...and yet he and Hogan are scheduled to be partners on Nitro. Intrigue! -
[1998-02-11-ECW-TV] Tommy Dreamer and Justin Credible
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in February 1998
I get the idea behind not making Credible a heel who ends up getting cheered, but he continues to look SO low-rent and indyriffic. He doesn't have 1/10 of the panache of the Big Boss Man, who was in a similar spot almost two years later but was able to (well, sort of) make it work and also not be remotely "cool," either. Really, in about two months Vince McMahon is going to give us all a lesson in how to be a top heel without any cool factor, and it's going to leave Mr. Montoya in the fucking dust. I wasn't offended by this either per se, even though Dreamer's grandfather dying was a shoot, but it does seem more than a little desperate and a rather pale imitation of the Douglas-Pitbull halo angle. Credible's delivery of the big line isn't any good, either.- 5 replies
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The image of Bam Bam hobnobbing on a golf course is pretty hilarious. Who the hell is Douglas supposed to be wrestling at Living Dangerously if Taz is wrestling Bam Bam?
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Final hard sell for No Way Out, a throwaway PPV if there ever was one, but not without a bad main event on paper at least. Los Boricuas failed in their quest to find Austin and the belt, so DX are finally out to beg Austin to come to the ring. Austin manages to run off DX, but is quickly surrounded by them and the Outlaws. But we hear the sounds of a chainsaw as this is going on, and up through the ring apron come Cactus and Chainsaw, with Owen Hart soon to follow. Chyna manages to get the belt back during the big standoff. Big heat for this, and Austin vs. Michaels is so, so much fresher than anything WCW can offer in the main event scene.
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[1998-02-09-WWF-Raw] Wrestlemania XIV Press Conference
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in February 1998
People had to be holding their breath all throughout this hoping Tyson wouldn't fuck things up, but he doesn't. He would later go on to be quite a talented comedic performer, but the WWF deserves a huge amount of credit for getting a guy who probably needed a LOT of guidance and downright hand-holding at this point to get through this whole saga unscathed. I can only imagine how badly WCW would mess things up if they'd gotten him instead. Tyson accuses Austin of being uncouth and not being able to get along with people in a funny moment. Austin and HBK have a pull-apart, and Tyson establishes himself as the enforcer in holding the two apart. Great segment all around. This really feels like the biggest WM main event since Hogan-Andre. -
The Rock cuts possibly the first in a running theme of current-event-centered promos, and I agree, these were great.