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[1997-02-01-ECW-Crossing the Line Again] Paul E. Dangerously promo
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in February 1997
Tod Gordon, Paul E., and all the ECW babyfaces are in the ring, while all the heels are in the Eagle's Nest, as Paul E. announces the date and main event of ECW's first PPV.- 6 replies
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[1997-02-01-WWF-Shotgun Saturday Night] Interview: Headbangers
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in February 1997
I guess I get what this was supposed to accomplish, but...yeah. Kind of crazy that Jim Cornette seemed more in touch with '90s metal when he booked these guys in SMW (not to mention rap music with the Gangstas...) -
Has Sandman gotten Tyler back yet? Either way, this feud is on its last legs--Raven is already moving on to Terry Funk and Richards, it's time to find a new dance partner for Sandman. Bad action but a clever finish that's pulled off okay, when it could have been a total disaster.
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Raven runs down all the dastardly acts he's pulled recently in the name of fun, as a threat towards Stevie Richards. "No one here gets out alive," he says, as he turns away from the camera to reveal a Jim Morrison towel.
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God, Taz just blows away Shane Douglas when it comes to the "self-righteous sticking-up-for-pure-wrestling guy who swears a lot" gimmick. The way he spits out "fake karate tae kwon do long-haired faggot" when describing RVD makes him sound like he really believes that about Van Dam, making the use of the slur effective instead of cheap and gratuitous (okay, maybe it's a little cheap). Then he lays into Sandman, Dreamer, and Terry Funk.
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Promo of the year, hands down. I'm not sure even the Bret heel turn promo, which is one of my all-time favorites, is better. There's still room for a humble, smiling babyface in 1997 ECW.
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Yeah, this seems a little much, especially since they don't do anything new. Giant teases a chokeslam of Eric Bischoff--the payoff to which could have been a legendary moment but was just sort of tossed off in the middle of a subsequent Nitro, IIRC. Giant makes his own save from an attack by the Outsiders, and Lex Luger is out in a Nitro shirt to stand by the Giant and confronting the Outsiders. Somewhat refreshing to get Luger back into the main event fold, even if this segment sort of petered out.
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Looks like the decision's been made for Savage to be the next NWO member, looking back on this segment now. Hogan and Bischoff talk up Hollywood's strong technical wrestling acumen, and then Bischoff plays Heenan to Hogan's Narcissist, as he fawns over Hogan's promised post-match posedown.
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[1997-01-27-WCW-Nitro] Randy Anderson, NWO, Rick and Scott Steiner
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in January 1997
Randy Anderson has taken a personal gift for his help at Souled Out, so for this violation of company policy, Bischoff fires him. Eric is an awesome two-faced asshole pretending to follow HR policy while Hall and Nash guffaw. Bischoff then overturns the decision and demands the Steiners return the belts or be found in breach of contract.- 8 replies
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Pretty good segment. I actually quite liked Shawn's promo here, as he actually puts his opponents over and puts the nature of the championship era. All the talk about "attitude" is pretty jarringly prescient, too. The only negative was Vince having to repeatedly jut in to put over the Shawn-Sid match on Thursday Raw.
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"Sock" as in a sock to the jaw, I believe. One of Lothario's finishes was a Ronnie Garvin-style KO punch.
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Buddy went to his grave convinced that Dusty at least TOLD him he was in line for the title. As time went by he seemed to be less sure that Dusty actually meant it. What's not in dispute are the plans of Buddy being put with Baby Doll--both Cornette and JJ Dillon have corroborated that, at the very least. Baby Doll was a major act for the company in 1985 so at minimum he lost out on a very sizable push, even if it wasn't World title level.
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It's in Harley's book from '04. Could be something his ghostwriter completely made up, but I want it to be true.
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Is there any truth to Harley Race's story about defending the title against Robot C-3 and then having to shoot on him?
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Justice Scalia's dissent or Bob Backlund promo?
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in Pro Wrestling Mostly
Clarence Thomas' non sequitur discussion of "dignity" in his dissent brought to mind the pitiable wailing of Hollywood John Tatum. -
To me this begins and ends with a fairly obvious but unavoidable pick: WCW's #1 heel going from Ric Flair to Brother Bruti. So horrid on so many levels that it scarcely needs explaining. Beefcake was never a *great* worker but you can at least understand why he earned his babyface push in the late '80s. In 1994 he had nothing at all going for him other than being Hogan's pal.
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But with Dory and PWO it's an awfully limited "collective." Ask the question again at Wrestling Classics and you're not going to get "no one else" believing he was great.
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I think Dory is a great worker and part of a top-5 all-time tag team. I also despise Duran Duran, but I'm admittedly a dwindling minority on that.
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But Hogan jobbed for Flair in January... WCWSN did a 3.2 on the 3/2 show where Loch Ness wrestled for the second straight week, which was phenomenal...but it was also a week where both Nitro *and* Main Event were pre-empted.
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Gwyn Davies vs. Steve Veidor from 5/26 is one of my favorite matches ever, World of Sport or otherwise. Others, some of which are probably already known about: - Verne Gagne vs. Jumbo Tsuruta (3/10) - Jumbo Tsuruta vs. Rusher Kimura (3/28) - Terry Funk vs. Jumbo Tsuruta (6/11) - Giant Baba vs. Billy Robinson (7/24) - Jumbo Tsuruta vs. Jack Brisco (8/28) - Dick Murdoch vs. Killer Karl Kox (12/9)
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[1997-01-25-WCW-NWO Souled Out] Hulk Hogan vs The Giant
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in January 1997
Sort of the only finish you could really book--Giant has enough of Patrick not counting, so he drops him with a chokeslam, takes out the B-teamers again, then gets swarmed by the A-listers as Hogan clobbers him with a guitar.- 8 replies
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[1997-01-25-WCW-NWO Souled Out] Eddy Guerrero vs Syxx (Ladder)
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in January 1997
This was okay, but for "ladder matches worked the old school way" Candido vs. Smothers smokes this to death. Hell, Razor-Shawn II had body part psychology and other smart work in between the stunts. This had a few nice moments and not much else, with some blown spots and an awkward anticlimactic finish. This wasn't offensive but I didn't much care for it, but IIRC this was still the match of the night. Fairly or not, when you promote a ladder match on PPV ESPECIALLY in 1997 you're more or less promising an epic, and this simply didn't deliver.- 13 replies
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I'm with El-P here. If anything, the only thing holding back the Steiners as Outsider opponents was Scott's injury, which left them in an out-of-sight-out-of-mind spot for much of the latter part of '96. This may well be the first time I've ever seen a Steiners match where Rick works FIP. Rick low-bridges Kevin Nash as Patrick is trying to restrain Scott. Bischoff: "The Steiners are out of control...I understand frustration, but you have to show SOME level of professionalism and decorum." Eric is in an awkward spot of having to put the action and the wrestlers over while maintaining his heel character, but that lecture was pretty funny. And again after the decision: "THESE PEOPLE ARE LIVID!"
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[1997-01-25-WCW-NWO Souled Out] Diamond Dallas Page and the NWO
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in January 1997
This worked with the crowd but was a pretty pale rehash of the Nitro angle. Buff sounds and talks eerily like Brian Christopher. Nick Patrick declares Scott Norton the winner by countout.- 7 replies
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