KrisZ

There is a ton of GCW footage available from September 1979 to the end. Regarding Bock.....he had points in Houston with Paul Boesch who was on the upper tier of NWA hierarchy plus he had really good runs defending his AWA title in 1978-79 in GCW & JCP which is the timeframe that KHawk was referring to.

No he worked a full JCP schedule along with the early March WWF tapings

If Not Matt Smith Then Who?

The DiBiase deal subbing for Race was all storyline by Ole getting over Ted as the new lead heel while making Race look like a douchebag for no-showing a card he wasn't even booked for.

Early 1984 was funky as the war had already started yet you had Slaughter working Steamer's "retirement" show in January, Tito working shots for Paul Boesch in January, Andre working shots in Florida, PNW, & Texas in April and this one. WWF @ Allentown, PA - Agricultural Hall - February 14, 1984 Greg Valentine (w/ Capt. Lou Albano) d. B. Brian Blair at 6:31 JCP @ Richmond, VA – Coliseum – March 24, 1984 Steel Cage Match: Dick Slater d. Greg Valentine A full 39 days between first WWF booking and last JCP booking.

OH SHIT you have started something now.........We now need many posters

Another positive for Flair in 1981 was months before he got the title he was a part owner of a territory which if you had skin in the NWA game that always helped.

St. Louis was in complete turmoil around the time of the Race title win as Matysik had left to form his own outlaw group. Geigel and his boys then took over and then pushed his Central States guys harder. 1981 was a different story as Sam was still in charge although on the way out

Flair was more about David Crockett's honor than the nation.

The thing about Lawler is that he didn't have the "look" and it's known how St. Louis felt about him and his territory as a whole.

That would've been the only way. He would've never got a run like he did in the AWA

There are various owners of Jarrett footage. It's basically public domain

To kill this Ivan talk and I think we really should. Ivan was working for the competition for one and two they would never vote for a foreign champion. The Baba reigns were all money in champ's pockets deals while on tour plus it was Baba and he was one of the made men. Jumbo never had a chance only Baba.

Sorry to potentially derail this debate, and God knows I love the plugs for the set , but what is the deal with the dearth of Mid South footage prior to late 1981? No one archived it up until the last tapings of the year.

We have way more Patera in high end matches from that era than we do of DiBiase because Patera was a mainstay in WWF and AWA who were high profile territories. DiBiase worked Georgia & Mid-South with a lack of footage from Mid-South until December 1981 and nothing but Techwood matches from Ted mainly tags at that. Both had great reps and both brought different things to the table as in 1981 DiBiase hadn't worked heel yet in his career while Patera was one of the best heels in the business. Patera also had experience working face earlier in his career so he could do both back then with Ted you didn't know because if you watched Ted promos from that era he was very milktoast and very similar to Dory.

Nope but he did 3 months and worked most of the territories. Patera was a workhorse at that time and could do 60:00 draws if needed.

Was Dusty Rhodes an NWA champ style worker

Patera was one of the Top 10 workers in North America in 1981 I would say.

And going back to Dylan's point earlier about Muchnick and Patera.......Sam loved Brody too.

Patera & DiBiase were neck and neck with Flair at the time as guys in line to get the title. DiBiase went to Georgia to get the springboard he needed to get the belt but Robert Fuller cuts his legs out from under him as the booker by keeping him in tag teams. Patera got the Georgia title when he came in and was pushed big but when he lost his allies in booking (Buck Robley) he saw the writing on the wall and quit.

Ole didn't hate Flair back then.....they were very tight. The split would come later on when Ole blamed Flair for him getting fired as booker in 1991.

If you notice there are two dates there period for GCW who basically refused to acknowledge he was the world champion then as Ole was pissed that he beat Flair for the title. They spent the next couple of months working with the outlaw Southwest area before finally bringing back some of the old regulars who were working groups like JCP late in July. Flair would appear on TBS two days after the winning the title and he was treated as the returning hero bringing the title back to TBS.

Here is the schedule that I have for Harley World Class @ Dallas, TX – Reunion Arena – June 17, 1983 (21,000) NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © d. Kevin Von Erich by DQ CWF @ Gainesville, FL – O’Connell Center – June 19, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © vs. Barry Windham CWF @ Orlando, FL – Eddie Graham Sports Stadium – June 19, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title – SR: Ron Bass: Harley Race © d. Dusty Rhodes CWF @ West Palm Beach, FL - City Auditorium - June 20, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © d. Barry Windham CWF @ Tampa, FL – Fort Homer Hesterly Armory – June 21, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © d. Scott McGhee CWF @ Miami, FL – Miami Beach Auditorium & Convention Hall – June 22, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © d. Dusty Rhodes by countout CWF @ Orlando, FL – Eddie Graham Sports Stadium – June 25, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © d. Barry Windham GCW @ Cleveland, OH - Convention Center - June 30, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © battled Stan Hansen to a double countout GCW @ Dayton, OH - Hara Arena - July 1, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © battled Stan Hansen to a double countout JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – July 2, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © d. Ric Flair by DQ JCP @ Savannah, GA - Civic Center - July 3, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © d. Ric Flair by DQ JCP @ Columbia, SC – Township Auditorium – July 4, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Ric Flair d. Harley Race © by DQ JCP @ Greenville, SC – Memorial Auditorium – July 4, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © battled Ric Flair to a DDQ JCP @ Raleigh, NC – Dorton Arena – July 5, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © battled Ric Flair to a double countout JCP @ Sumter, SC – Expo Center - July 6, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © battled Ric Flair to a DDQ JCP @ Norfolk, VA – Scope – July 7, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © d. Wahoo McDaniel JCP @ Richmond, VA – Coliseum – July 8, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Ric Flair d. Harley Race © by DQ JCP @ Charlotte, NC – Coliseum – July 9, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Ric Flair d. Harley Race © by DQ JCP @ Asheville, NC – Civic Center – July 10, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © battled Ric Flair to a DDQ Tunney @ Toronto, Ontario – Exhibition Stadium – July 10, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Ric Flair d. Harley Race © by DQ Central States @ Kansas City, KS – Memorial Hall – July 14, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © battled Ric Flair to a no contest JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – July 17, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Ric Flair d. Harley Race © by DQ JCP @ Winston-Salem, NC – Coliseum – July 20, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © vs. Ric Flair JCP @ Norfolk, VA – Scope – July 21, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © d. Bob Orton Jr. JCP @ Richmond, VA – Coliseum – July 22, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title – SR – Sandy Scott: Ric Flair d. Harley Race © by DQ JCP @ Charlotte, NC – Coliseum – July 23, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title – SR: Sandy Scott: Ric Flair d. Harley Race © by DQ JCP @ Asheville, NC – Civic Center – July 24, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © d. Ricky Steamboat by DQ Tunney @ Toronto, Ontario – Exhibition Stadium – July 24, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © d. Ric Flair by DQ WWC @ San Juan, Puerto Rico - July 30, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © d. El Gran Apollo CWF @ Orlando, FL – Eddie Graham Sports Stadium – July 31, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © d. Dusty Rhodes by DQ CWF @ West Palm Beach, FL - City Auditorium - August 1, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © fought Mike Graham to a 60:00 draw CWF @ Tampa, FL - Fort Homer Hesterly Armory - August 2, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © d. Mike Graham by DQ CWF @ Miami, FL – Miami Beach Auditorium & Convention Hall – August 3, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © d. Barry Windham by DQ St. Louis @ St. Louis, MO – Kiel Auditorium – August 5, 1983 2 out of 3 falls match for the NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © d. Ric Flair CWF @ Fort Pierce, FL - August 6, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © vs. Blackjack Mulligan JCP @ Asheville, NC – Civic Center – August 7, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © d. Wahoo McDaniel by DQ JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – August 7, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © d. Bob Orton Jr. Central States @ Kansas City, KS – Memorial Hall – August 11, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © d. Super Destroyer CWF @ West Palm Beach, FL – City Auditorium – August 15, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © d. Dusty Rhodes by DQ CWF @ Tampa, FL - Fort Homer Hesterly Armory - August 16, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Dusty Rhodes d. Harley Race © by DQ CWF @ Sunrise, FL – Music Theater – August 17, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © vs. Mike Graham CWF @ Jacksonville, FL – Coliseum – August 18, 1983 No DQ for the NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © vs. Dusty Rhodes CWF @ Sarasota, FL – Robarts Arena – August 20, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © d. Barry Windham by DQ Central States @ Kansas City, KS – Memorial Hall – August 25, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © d. Super Destroyer CWF @ Orlando, FL - Eddie Graham Sports Stadium - September 3, 1983 Mike Graham d. Harley Race CWF @ Ocala, FL – Jai-Alai Fronton – September 4, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © vs. Barry Windham CWF @ West Palm Beach, FL - City Auditorium - September 5, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © d. Mike Graham by DQ CWF @ Tampa, FL – Fort Homer Hesterly Armory – September 6, 1983 Blackjack Mulligan d. Harley Race CWF @ Miami, FL – Miami Beach Auditorium & Convention Hall – September 7, 1983 (5,675) NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © d. Ric Flair CWF @ Jacksonville, FL – Coliseum – September 8, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © vs. Barry Windham CWF @ Daytona, FL – Spruce Creek High School – September 9, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © vs. Angelo Mosca CWF @ Lakeland, FL – Civic Center – September 10, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © vs. Barry Windham WWC @ San Juan, Puerto Rico - Roberto Clemente Stadium - September 17, 1983 (32,000) Carlos Colon d. Harley Race Tunney @ Toronto, Ontario – Maple Leaf Gardens – September 18, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © d. Mike Rotundo Central States @ Kansas City, KS – Memorial Hall – September 22, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Ted DiBiase d. Harley Race © by DQ CWF @ West Palm Beach, FL - City Auditorium - September 26, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © d. Barry Windham by countout CWF @ Tampa, FL - Fort Homer Hesterly Armory - September 27, 1983 Blackjack Mulligan, Mike Rotundo, & Barry Windham d. Ron Bass, Harley Race, & JJ Dillon CWF @ Miami, FL – Miami Beach Auditorium & Convention Hall – September 28, 1983 2 out of 3 falls match for the NWA World Heavyweight Title: Barry Windham d. Harley Race © by DQ CWF @ Jacksonville, FL - Coliseum - September 29, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Blackjack Mulligan d. Harley Race © by DQ CWF @ Ocala, FL – Central Florida Community College – September 30, 1983 2 out of 3 falls match for the NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © vs. Barry Windham CWF @ St. Petersburg, FL – Bayfront Center – October 1, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © battled Dusty Rhodes to a double countout World Class @ San Antonio, TX – Hemisfair Arena – October 2, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Kevin Von Erich d. Harley Race © by DQ World Class @ Fort Worth, TX – Will Rogers Coliseum – October 3, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © d. Kamala by DQ CWF @ Tampa, FL - Fort Homer Hesterly Armory - October 4, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © battled Dusty Rhodes to a no contest World Class @ Lawton, OK – October 5, 1983 David Von Erich d. Harley Race World Class @ Dallas, TX – The Sportatorium – October 7, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © d. Iceman Parsons by DQ St. Louis @ St. Louis, MO – Kiel Auditorium – October 8, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © d. Hulk Hogan by DQ CWF @ Orlando, FL - Eddie Graham Sports Stadium - October 9, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Barry Windham d. Harley Race © by DQ CWF @ Ocala, FL – Jai-Alai Fronton – October 9, 1983 2 out of 3 falls match for the NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © vs. Barry Windham Central States @ Kansas City, KS – Memorial Hall – October 13, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © battled Hulk Hogan to a no contest Central States @ St. Joseph, MO - Civic Auditorium - October 14, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © d. Buzz Tyler Central States @ Fort Scott, KS - October 15, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © d. Buzz Tyler PNW @ Centralia, WA - October 16, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © battled Billy Jack to a no contest PNW @ Yakima, WA – October 17, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © d. Billy Jack PNW @ Portland, OR – Sports Arena – October 18, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © d. Buddy Rose PNW @ Seattle, WA – Center Arena - October 19, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Billy Jack d. Harley Race © by DQ PNW @ Salem, OR – October 20, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © fought Billy Jack to a draw PNW @ Eugene, OR – Lane County Fairgrounds - October 21, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © d. Billy Jack PNW @ Portland, OR – Sports Arena – October 22, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © fought Billy Jack to a draw AJPW @ Kitami, Japan - October 24, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © vs. Jumbo Tsuruta AJPW @ Morioka, Japan - October 26, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © battled Jumbo Tsuruta to a DDQ AJPW @ Aizu, Japan - October 31, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © d. Ted DiBiase Central States @ Wichita, KS - Expo Center - November 7, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © d. Buzz Tyler Central States @ Falls City, NE - November 8, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © d. Buzz Tyler Central States @ Kansas City, KS – Memorial Hall – November 10, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © d. Ted DiBiase Central States @ Dorado Springs, MO - November 11, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © d. Bob Brown CWF @ Ocala, FL – Jai-Alai Fronton – November 13, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © vs. Mike Rotundo CWF @ West Palm Beach, FL - City Auditorium - November 14, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © d. Dusty Rhodes CWF @ Tampa, FL – Sun Dome – November 15, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © vs. Mike Rotundo CWF @ Miami, FL – Miami Beach Auditorium & Convention Hall – November 16, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © d. Mike Rotundo by DQ in 22:12 CWF @ Daytona Beach, FL – Spruce Creek High School – November 18, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © vs. Barry Windham CWF @ St. Petersburg, FL – Bayfront Center – November 19, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © d. Ron Bass by DQ JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – November 24, 1983 (15,447) (Starrcade 83) NWA World Heavyweight Title: Ric Flair d. Harley Race ©

TBS was still home of GCW yes

Pretty much anyone who had a run on TBS at one point