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If you really think about it, Bret's list is pretty short too. Replace Bret with Sean Waltman and Triple H with Edge and you get the same result.

Having a lot of great matches means you are probably great. However it does not mean you are automatically better than someone who had a lot less great matches. Different people are in different positions. Bret Hart is a better in ring wrestler than Triple H in every way. However you can probably count more great matches for Triple H than for Bret. Why? Due to quality of opponents, ways they are presented and opportunities.

That's probably the best assessment. Number of great matches being weighted so heavily bugged me a lot, especially if it was more important than how someone performs. Some people were just in positions to have a TON of great matches and to have those seen by a lot of people. Others did not. The folks who didn't get those chances aren't necessarily worse than those who did. Being in position means they still have to take advantage of that opportunity. And doing so may very well be why they're so often put in such a position. True. However looking at someone like Bret who constantly had to face pirates, dentists, clowns and everybody else and compare that to Kobashi who got to face Misawa, Kawada, Taue, etc.. There is no way Bret would ever be able to equal that many great matches in that situation. Does that mean Kobashi is automatically better? He may be better, but there is more to it than that.

289 - The Iron Sheik 2006 Ranking: honourable mention Points: 228 # of Ballots: 7 Average Vote: 68.43 High Vote: 34 Low Vote: 97

290 - Jamie Noble 2006 Ranking: honourable mention Points: 227 # of Ballots: 12 Average Vote: 82.08 High Vote: 55 (The Great Puma) Low Vote: 98

My last post on this though, it's not that they aren't great, it's just that it doesn't automatically make someone greater than someone who had way less great matches.

I have no issue with that at all. Number of great matches is absolutely a factor for a lot of people, self included, but to imply that anyone thinks it's the only thing that matters ... I thought we knew each other better than that. I didn't want to imply that is all that matters, just that it is weighted way too heavily to me.

That's probably the best assessment. Number of great matches being weighted so heavily bugged me a lot, especially if it was more important than how someone performs. Some people were just in positions to have a TON of great matches and to have those seen by a lot of people. Others did not. The folks who didn't get those chances aren't necessarily worse than those who did.

Parv said he ranked Rick Steiner based on his top ten matches and nothing else. Although he used BIGLAV, so that might discount what he said.

It's not that. It's going by only looking at the great matches and that being the whole case.

This is why great match theory sucks.

291 - Adrian Street 2006 Ranking: unranked Points: 225 # of Ballots: 11 Average Vote: 80.55 High Vote: 45 (Dean Rasmussen) Low Vote: 100

Are you discounting Harper's indie run? I took Tenta over Yamada and Morishima, as both of those didn't make my list and Tenta did.

You voted for Rick Steiner?

Yeah, that one is a surprise to me. I blame myself for not pimping Tenta enough.

292 - Rick Steiner 2006 Ranking: unranked Points: 222 # of Ballots: 7 Average Vote: 69.29 High Vote: 48 (Beast) Low Vote: 98

293 - El Mesias 2006 Ranking: unranked Points: 220 # of Ballots: 9 Average Vote: 76.56 High Vote: 44 (Dean Rasmussen) Low Vote: 95

294 - Yokozuna 2006 Ranking: unranked Points: 219 # of Ballots: 9 Average Vote: 76.67 High Vote: 33 (Mando>Eddie) Low Vote: 98

295 - "Dirty White Boy" Tony Anthony 2006 Ranking: unranked Points: 214 # of Ballots: 8 Average Vote: 74.25 High Vote: 29 (Paul Völsch) Low Vote: 96

296 - Leo Burke 2006 Ranking: honourable mention Points: 211 # of Ballots: 7 Average Vote: 70.86 High Vote: 17 (Andrew Lacelle) Low Vote: 96 "My guy, a great babyface in the Maritimes and a great babyface and heel elsewhere. He was influenced by Patt O'Connor and he was an influence on Bret Hart. " Dave Musgrave (not the high voter) "I wish there was more footage of his work available. It’s a shame to hear about the Atlantic Grand Prix Wrestling video library being destroyed in a fire. We can only imagine what classics were worked. From the footage that is available, Leo Burke is clearly a clever wrestler. He was a great old school wrestler. Bret Hart learned a lot from watching and with Leo Burke. Bret Hart even mentioned in a Slam! Wrestling article online that he thinks Leo Burke is one of the best Canadian wrestlers ever. Burke had great performances in Canada and in Puerto Rico." stunning_grover Recommended Match: Leo Burke and Rocky Delasara vs Yoshiaki Fujiwara and Nobuhiko Takada (7/24/1984)

297 - Timothy Thatcher 2006 Ranking: unranked Points: 211 # of Ballots: 9 Average Vote: 77.56 High Vote: 25 (ShittyLittleBoots) Low Vote: 100

He was nominated. and his ranking just showed up.

298 - Paul London 2006 Ranking: unranked Points: 210 # of Ballots: 7 Average Vote: 71 High Vote: 12 (Mando>Eddie) Low Vote: 99

299 - Akira Tozawa 2006 Ranking: unranked Points: 209 # of Ballots: 9 Average Vote: 77.78 High Vote: 55 (Alan Counihan) Low Vote: 100

Completely agreed!