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Edge Vs. Batista; WWE Raw


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Tomorrow, on Raw, Edge is supposed to get a title match against Batista since Edge won the "Gold Rush" tournament.

 

Last week we saw Lita turn on Kane and cost Kane the tournament. It could be argued that her turn even overshadowed Edge's win. We saw that Triple H wasn't on Raw since he left two weeks ago. We saw Batista help out Ric Flair.

 

So, what's going to happen? I'm sure we've all read the rumors about Triple/Batista III at the next Raw PPV. We also know that the draft is coming up in a couple of weeks.

 

So, could we see a title switch on Raw? I'm thinking that Edge might get himself DQ'ed against Batista by beating the slop out of him with a weapon. A chair, his briefcase, double-team beatdown with help from Lita, etc. Then he could use his "Money in the Bank" title shot immediately afterwards.

 

It leaves the door open for a lot of shit though. The teased Flair face turn from last week. HHH coming back. Kane wanting revenge. A whole slew of shit could go down. I'm actually pretty interested in what could take place.

 

So, even though this post has a shelf life, I thought that it could make for some good discussion. Matt Hardy drama aside, should Edge win the title? Has Batista been given enough time with the belt? Is Batista bombing? Will Batista lose so that HHH/Batista can happen in a non-title fashion? Will HHH come back? Will Edge even use his "Money in the Bank" contract? Where do Flair & Christian fit into all of this?

 

There's a lot of ways that this could play out. Batista could retain. Edge could win. Edge could win but not get the title. HHH could return. Kane could do a run-in. Flair could turn face.

 

I'm just curious what you guys thought about the whole situation. It's pretty much the most compelling thing that we have going on the Raw side.

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Matt Hardy drama aside, should Edge win the title?

No, Edge isn't ready and it would kill Batista to lose the belt this quickly. If they are going to give Edge the title at somepoint they need to put him over someon who could give hima great match and Batista is not that guy.

 

Has Batista been given enough time with the belt?

No.

 

Is Batista bombing?

No, but it's getting closer. I think people liked the idea of knowing that HHH would lose more than they liked Batista and his reception as champ seems to reflect that. Batista really hasn't been given time to shine yet.

 

Will Batista lose so that HHH/Batista can happen in a non-title fashion?

Without the belt no one would care at all and from the buyrate of Backlash, no one really cared about the first rematch.

 

Will HHH come back?

I don't think he'll be back this week. He needs to stay away for another week or two.

 

Will Edge even use his "Money in the Bank" contract?

Not tomorrow.

 

Where do Flair & Christian fit into all of this?

Christian doesn't fit anywhere that I see unless they reform Evolution with he, Edge, Flair, and HHH, which I don't see happening since both guys have been in the WWF so long that no one would really buy that they now have decided that they need HHH's guidance. Flair should go with Batista, but will probably do the same thing he's done 100 times and "swerve everyone" by staying heel and being HHH's lackey.

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I'm thinking HHH will never let Flair turn face, since he has to know that people want to see that and in his mind that makes him a bigger heel by keeping Flair his lackey. "I know what you want, and I'm going to deliberately not give it to you" has been HHH's motto for years.

 

If WWE was smart ( I know...) they'd play off the current Star Wars mania and do a mini feud with Flair and Christian as the upstart youngster vs the wizened old master.

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From Meltzer:

Tonight's Raw features Batista vs. Edge for the World title. There will also be a Heat match with the Heart Throbs vs. William Regal & Tajiri in a tornado match. For those thinking of skipping tonight's show, you probably want to reconsider, and I'm not being sarcastic with that remark.

Matt Hardy, maybe?

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It'll probably be "Stone Cold" Steve Austin. I remember reading some shit about him saying he'd be coming back to Raw soon.

 

I hope it's a real big surprise whatever it is. If it was a returning Goldberg, I'd still mark out. I'd be happier if it were Brock.

 

I want it to be some shit that just makes me go fucking bananas.

 

EDIT: Actually, come to think of it, it's probably ECW related. Bischoff said that he was going to have a funeral for ECW or some shit on the updated WWE.com Raw preview.

 

So, maybe we'll get to see a bunch of people like Lance Storm and shit?

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ECW invasion II probably.

 

I wonder if they'll have Edge lose the match by DQ, cash his contract in, then lose to Batista via DQ or ref stoppage so they can keep heat and interest in the match for the future but be able to say "the contender spot is vacant, HHH goes in here, Edge and Batista have unfinished business. Then they can have Edge interfere at the HHH vs Batista 3 match so HHH doesn't look bad losing clean, the angle continues and Edge can be placed back in the spot and then wrap it up over the summer by which time Orton or Angle should be ready. Then of course HHH can take the belt back by the end of the year to build up whoever he wants to go over him next Mania so he can be a company man before swiping another reign by winter.

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What a shocker, Batista gets a good reaction in his match only to fall victim to Flair Swerve #7098989 and gets a HHH beatdown.

 

 

I'll say one thing, I mark for Heyman when he gets revved up in promos. What does it say about wrestling when the guy who has the most passion in the fucking business had his joint go bankrupt and is pretty much owned by Vince.

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I have a question, why the fuck does HHH think Batista wants to risk his belt against him again when he has beaten him twice, let alone in a gimmick match where HHH has experience? The writing just doesn't make sense. I would really like Batista to come out next week and go "About the Hell In The Cell.... no. I beat you twice already, I don't need to beat you to death in a cell to prove I am better. So anyway, who likes my suit?"

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Especially since they always book faces to always fall for HHH's traps to make them look stupid.

 

There's absolutely no reason Batista would want to risk his belt and career (kayfabe wise) in HHH's specialty match.

 

By the way, remember when the Cell was Taker's specialty? I wonder how Hunter was able to pull that off considering Take's as protective of his gimmick as Hunter is.

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HHH got to end Foley's career in the HiaC and pretty much co-opted the match. There have been 5 (I think) since, 6-man, HHH/Jericho, Brock/Taker, HHH/Nash, and HHH/HBK, HHH has been in all but one (Brock/Taker) and won all but but one of the four he was in (the six man), needless to say HHH didn't take the fall in that match, nor did Taker (who has been in 5 HiaCs and only won 2). I'm not counting the two HiaCs from Raw in 1998 because neither had a finish. Oddly the two best HiaCs did not have HHH in them, go figure...

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Especially since they always book faces to always fall for HHH's traps to make them look stupid.

 

There's absolutely no reason Batista would want to risk his belt and career (kayfabe wise) in HHH's specialty match.

 

Half the reason Batista got over was because he outsmarted HHH initially (getting himself banned from ringside intentionally, making him think he'd go to SD! before powerbombing him through a table) and only a couple of weeks ago he said to HHH he didn't want to or see why he should face him again which was the whole reason for the tournament to begin with. Now he's back and beating down Batista and why? He wants the belt? Great.

 

Is he number one contender now (really Kane should be since he was the runner up in the tournament and his loss was tainted) just because he has came back and is still mad? Why? He should get to the back of the line.

 

Batista's going to be a complete bust at this rate simply because it's HHH vs Batista until HHH gets the belt back somehow and they are already telegraphing it. The only way I can see Batista accepting the match would be if it was a title vs career match and then they might as well just skip the PPV and get to the 20 minute HHH I'm the champ speech to start RAW on Monday.

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I like how HHH can manage to job out to Benoit in the first round of a tournament, stay off TV for a few weeks (while being talked about constantly, because God knows RAW woiuld never survive without HHH) and yet *still* manage to render the entire tournament POINTLESS, and stay in the exact same spot he was before, while no one moves up the card.

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I think Batista is officially dead in the water now. He's fucked now because he's in a never ending feud with HHH and people are sick of it. I'm guessing HHH wins the belt back because HIAC is "his" match or they'll junk future plans and put the belt back on Triple H due to decreased heat for Batista by Summerslam.

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