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Wrestling Culture Episode 10


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Guys, serious suggestion:

 

I've recorded 22 different podcast with a rotating cast of characters (not about wrestling) and I've done them ALL using two free programmes:

 

1. Skype

2. Audacity

 

You talk over Skype and record it on the free audacity programme, which also lets you edit the content, add sound bites, jingles and so on.

 

I'm a complete luddite, but that method is almost idiot proof.

 

I don't get why you'd use something like Talkshoe, which seems to be throwing up all sorts of problems.

 

Other than that, great show, as ever! :)

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Jerry,

 

For a computer using person, you can't get much more luddite than me. I've literally been endorsed by the foremost historian of the Luddite's in fact. So that is part of it. But the bigger issue is that we started on talkshoe and just haven't bothered to switch over. We probably will eventually move over to Skype.

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I only mention it because it's free and Audacity is about as hard as using MS Paint or a pair of scissors in real life. It's just drag and drop. Once you find out you can turn youtube clips into MP3s using a browser-based download site, you won't want to turn back. Imagine putting Leo Burke promos onto the end of your shows! The possibilities.

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Technical issues aside (you were fucking with the spacetime continuum, after all), it was another great show.

 

People who have read me for a long time might guess this, but since I haven't brought it up in a while, my #1 pick if I were a hypothetical guest on this show would have probably been the William Muldoon/Clarence Whistler match in San Francisco in either 1883 or 1884. Their eight-hour 1881 match that the New York Herald called a "torture marathon" would be tempting, too, but the San Fran match sounds just as - if not more - intense, and wasn't eight hours long.

 

Courtesy of Karl Stern:

According to Muldoon's written statements later after becoming New York Athletic Commission President, he was told before the match that Whistler intended to push him off of the stage in amongst his thug friends, who would then cripple Muldoon. During the match, Muldoon was pushed off the stage and was kicked in the eye, but made it back on stage and secured a fall against Whistler which broke his collar bone.

Stern seemed to think their matches were shoots, despite all logic suggesting otherwise (Whistler was pretty much outright trying to murder Muldoon, but Muldoon, despite being a uniformed police officer himself, never got Whistler into any hot water legally, and the New York Police Gazette that backed Muldoon heavily spoke very respectfully of Whistler after his death). I don't know if he still believes that, but if you don't - and you shouldn't - it really reads like wrestling's first great blood feud, and would've been an awesome thing to see.

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Technical issues aside (you were fucking with the spacetime continuum, after all), it was another great show.

 

People who have read me for a long time might guess this, but since I haven't brought it up in a while, my #1 pick if I were a hypothetical guest on this show would have probably been the William Muldoon/Clarence Whistler match in San Francisco in either 1883 or 1884. Their eight-hour 1881 match that the New York Herald called a "torture marathon" would be tempting, too, but the San Fran match sounds just as - if not more - intense, and wasn't eight hours long.

 

Courtesy of Karl Stern:

According to Muldoon's written statements later after becoming New York Athletic Commission President, he was told before the match that Whistler intended to push him off of the stage in amongst his thug friends, who would then cripple Muldoon. During the match, Muldoon was pushed off the stage and was kicked in the eye, but made it back on stage and secured a fall against Whistler which broke his collar bone.

Stern seemed to think their matches were shoots, despite all logic suggesting otherwise (Whistler was pretty much outright trying to murder Muldoon, but Muldoon, despite being a uniformed police officer himself, never got Whistler into any hot water legally, and the New York Police Gazette that backed Muldoon heavily spoke very respectfully of Whistler after his death). I don't know if he still believes that, but if you don't - and you shouldn't - it really reads like wrestling's first great blood feud, and would've been an awesome thing to see.

 

 

Thanks S.L.L.

 

Would the Muldoon/Whistler match have been at the point that wrestling matches were still taking place on gravel or had it moved into a ring or some other type of contraption? A gravel match would be a great gimmick to bring back.

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I don't know about a proper ring as we know it, but they definitely had a mat of some kind, if only because at one point, "Whistler swore he would beat Muldoon on the mat or in the street". I guess one could have a "mat" of gravel, but it seems counter-intuitive to me.

 

Incidentally, I have just discovered that Clarence Whistler's Wikipedia page is totally awesome.

 

It seems like Blacktop Bully should have been challenging people to gravel matches, but that would probably have gotten him booted from WCW faster than the King of the Road match did.

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