chrislatimer Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 How far would Daniel Bryan have gotten ? would he have won the title at wrestlemania 30. the reason i pose this query is because till quite recently i believed he played a bigger part in his own rise to the title than others seemed to . but the effect of Brie Bella in months past getting over with it has made me revise how big a role the yes chanr played in his road to the title. WWE didnt want to push this man. WWE only pushed this man as strong as they did i now believe because the chant caught on in a massive way (way bigger than that fandango nonsense did) (i put this in microscope as it offers an insight into daniel bryans popularity vs the yes chant popularity ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soup23 Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 I did move this to pro wrestling because while it is specific to the YES Chant initially, it is more hypothetical on where he would have been booked for the future and it can lead to a multitude of other discussion on the crowd chant vs. booking of the product debate that doesn't deal with Bryan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrislatimer Posted December 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 I did move this to pro wrestling because while it is specific to the YES Chant initially, it is more hypothetical on where he would have been booked for the future and it can lead to a multitude of other discussion on the crowd chant vs. booking of the product debate that doesn't deal with Bryan. that's cool. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 I have come to think it wasn't so much that they didn't want to push Bryan. How many times have we heard that Vince sees him as his own creation, a great worker that Vince taught how to be a star? If you recall, Vince felt after HIAC that Bryan had been elevated from the Orton feud and they were simply moving on to the next challenger. I think the issue was that Vince had the ceiling lower for Bryan than it actually was, and he underestimated his popularity based on the disappointing Summerslam buyrate (which was later revised and bumped up quite a bit in one of the more underreported stories of the past year - the difference between '13 and '12 ended up pretty small in the end). Vince I think saw him as more of a Chris Jericho type than a top star in the company type, so he was going to be protected but just below the very top level. What I don't understand to this day is why they did the angle with Bray Wyatt in the show-closing position in January if they had no plans for him. Did that just get far more over than expected? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 The cage angle with Wyatt raised everyone's expectations. Strangely enough if they had just kept him heel a little while longer there would have been less backlash. I don't know if we will ever know the exact specifics of what went on but the Vince interview probably shed quite a bit of light. I do wonder what the plans were for post mania. Batista as babyface champ probably still feuding with Orton. I doubt Bryan was in plan to fight for the title Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrislatimer Posted December 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 I have come to think it wasn't so much that they didn't want to push Bryan. How many times have we heard that Vince sees him as his own creation, a great worker that Vince taught how to be a star? If you recall, Vince felt after HIAC that Bryan had been elevated from the Orton feud and they were simply moving on to the next challenger. I think the issue was that Vince had the ceiling lower for Bryan than it actually was, and he underestimated his popularity based on the disappointing Summerslam buyrate (which was later revised and bumped up quite a bit in one of the more underreported stories of the past year - the difference between '13 and '12 ended up pretty small in the end). Vince I think saw him as more of a Chris Jericho type than a top star in the company type, so he was going to be protected but just below the very top level. What I don't understand to this day is why they did the angle with Bray Wyatt in the show-closing position in January if they had no plans for him. Did that just get far more over than expected? If memory serves me correctly didnt they do that cage match deal at the last minute due to some viral video at a basketball game. ? i think that was just trying to use the buzz from the yes chant which was at its peak around the time of that cage match Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 That was the reason, yes. But I think because they closed the show with it and because of the incredible reception he got that night, it seemed like he was their guy. People had the same hope the month before when the crowd hijacked the Cena-Orton TLC build with a "Daniel Bryan!" chant that got progressively louder and louder to the point that it threw everyone off that was in the ring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 yeah Hunter convinced Vince to turn back Bryan against Wyatt on the way to the Network announcement. It was probably done purely in reaction to the Michigan State deal. But it backfired on them putting it on last. Strange booking all around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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