shoe Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 Botch moves don't bother me, unless the wrestlers freeze or if it's beyond ugly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert S Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 Never heard of him before. Shawn Spears, wrestled in my local promtion here and went to OVW in 2006. Has been in and out of WWE for years and even had an ECW run. Man Neo Spirit Pro was so great. You had Shawn Spears, Eric Young, Bobby Roode, Angelina Love, Cody Deaner, Tyson Dux. What a company. Even Lawler was there once. Spears had a feud with Cabana in OVW in which he looked pretty good. On one of the Six Flags shows they promoted Cena vs. Spears which some people called the best face vs. the best heel in wrestling back then. He had the bad luck to be brought up in 07/08 which probably was the worst times to be brought up from developmental to the main roster. Remember Scotty Goldman or Braden Walker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 I thought they covered for it really well. I thought it added to the story of the match as it looked like for a split second Bayley screwed up and it was going to cost her. I don't mind botches unless they completely freeze or they pull a Sabu and go right back to the same spot after screwing it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoe Posted August 27, 2015 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 This was mentioned in the Observer in regards to Liger. Liger debuted on the NXT show, and is expected to be working more dates with WWE, which explains his beating Tyler Breeze on the show, although the Brooklyn show's main card had nothing but babyface wins. One promoter we are friends with had tried to book Liger for a few dates and was told WWE had him on those dates, so it looks like Liger has a deal with WWE. This supports my point that Liger/Breeze was worked as if they had plans for Liger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoe Posted August 27, 2015 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 Also from a podcast via the Observer Tanahashi talking about handshakes after matches. He supports Will's POV He also said he doesn't believe in post-match handshakes and hugs. "A post match handshake often undoes all the work and drama you've done in the match. It comes to nothing." He said when he was in ROH against Fish & O'Reilly, and they offered the handshake as ROH protocol, he thought "What the f*** is this?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woof Posted August 27, 2015 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 That Tanahashi quote is interesting. I don't think it necessarily undoes the drama of the match UNLESS the story you were telling is one of hatred. For example, the Cena-Owens series was more or less about "who can beat who", so handshakes after any of those matches would have been okay, because those guys weren't in a blood feud, they were in it to see who the better man was. The fact that Owens got offended by Cena's handshake and "you deserve to be here" comment makes him a great heel in part BECAUSE that moment wasn't one where the handshake was out of line. That fact that he felt it was just reinforced what a jaded a-hole he is (as a character). Same with Jericho vs Michaels at WM19. The post-match hug was earned, because they were fighting for respect. Jericho's punt to the nuts was awesome because as a fan I was totally okay with the hug of respect, and yet there was Jericho being a shitty loser about it. It fit the story. I think I might have been okay with Banks hugging Bayley after her win on Saturday if it was just the two of them, because even though Banks is a total badass, I could accept a heel having the dimension to at least acknowledge Bayley's quest for the title and the fact that she beat her clean. What took me out of the moment completely was the presence of Becky & Charlotte, because in the storyline Sasha has NO reason to respect those two. They were both once her on-screen partners who were now against her, and they both failed to take the title from her previously. Plus she was facing them the next night in the tag match. It made ZERO sense for her to be buddy-buddy with them at that time. If they had done one or the other (Bayley and Sasha hug or Bayley, Becky & Charlotte sans Sasha), it would have worked. Instead it just reminded in the middle of a show that I was watching a performance rather than a competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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