New Kurt Angle article from the Pittsburgh Post Gazette

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This is going to warp the mind of the "OMG YOU HAVE NO PROOF ANGLE TOOK PAINKILLERZ~!" crowd, along with Angle apparently trying to challenge Hogan in the History Re-Writing Olympics:

 

 

Addicted to the center of the ring

Ex-Olympian Angle says he's quit painkillers, but not what causes the pain

 

Sunday, November 12, 2006

By Chico Harlan, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

 

 

 

Nothing hurt this afternoon, and Kurt Angle looked downright unbreakable. Sitting at a table at Eat'n Park table, only a Diet Coke in front of him, he folded his hands, fingers like Stonehenge, and let that famous growling tenor boom.

 

Listen to what he'd survived: seven years on the furious pro wrestling circuit, two major neck surgeries, fractured ribs, a broken hip, a left arm that he couldn't lift, a pinky finger that he still can't feel, 250 days on the road every year, ruthless stunts, anxiety, addiction and just about a life gone to ruin.

 

When Mr. Angle earned a wrestling gold medal in the Olympics in 1996, he'd never, by his own account, touched alcohol or marijuana or performance-enhancing drugs.

 

His subsequent entrance into professional wrestling, though, stirred up a pair of addictions. He learned he needed the spotlight and the adrenaline of the ring. He also learned that mind-bending amounts of Percocet, Norco and Vicodin allowed him to perform when his body begged otherwise.

 

So, as Mr. Angle, raised in Mt. Lebanon and now living in Coraopolis, sipped his soda on a recent Saturday afternoon, he talked about the two subjects that have dominated his life:

 

Painkillers. He hoped to never touch them again. He said he'd been free of them for 18 months. "But yes," he said, lowering his voice. "I still crave it. I want it right now."

 

Wrestling. He won't give it up.

 

Mr. Angle, 37, debuts Thursday on SpikeTV with Total Nonstop Action Wrestling, a 4-year-old company hoping to nudge Vince McMahon's WWE, with whom Mr. Angle cut his ties in August, from its stranglehold on the industry.

 

Best case, Mr. Angle, instantly TNA's most recognized wrestler, will tilt the balance of power, all while earning close to $1 million a year. Worst case, his body will further erode, but this time, it will happen in greater obscurity.

 

Mr. Angle wrestled for the last time with WWE at a sold-out arena in White Plains, N.Y. on Aug. 13. During the match, he said, he pulled his groin, but fans kept screaming for more, and he obliged them. Then he pulled his lower abdominal muscle straight off his pelvic bone. Still, he kept going. In the finishing moments, he blew out a hamstring. The fans roared, lusting for carnage. Mr. Angle couldn't rise to acknowledge the ovation.

 

The next day, almost incapacitated, he decided to quit the WWE. He traveled with his manager, Dave Hawk, to WWE headquarters in Stamford, Conn.

 

For the final time, by his account, he aired his grievances: The company's executives, he said, ignored his pleas for time off and undercut his efforts to dabble in acting.

 

Few wrestlers avoid the industry's toll. WWE star Eddie Guerrero, 38, at various times a drug and painkiller user, died a year ago in a Minneapolis hotel room. Brian Pillman, 35, died in 1997 of heart disease, again alone, again in a hotel room. Officials found an empty bottle of painkillers next to his body.

 

When Mr. Angle asked for his release from the WWE, he got it.

 

"I think it's because WWE was scared to death," said industry expert Dave Meltzer, publisher of the Wrestling Observer newsletter. "I think they were scared of another Eddie Guerrero."

 

 

Pills by the handful

Mr. Angle said he began taking painkillers three years ago after seriously injuring his neck. Family history told him to be careful. His father fought alcoholism during his life, and his sister would die in September 2004 of a heroin overdose. Still, his pill use snowballed, even as his wrestling performances remained steady, and often spectacular.

 

He needed the pills just to rise from bed. "Not just a handful," Mr. Angle said. "A large handful. I'm telling you, excruciating pain, all of the time. Cold sweats. I felt like a shell, like I didn't have a body or a soul. I was just a skeleton ... until I took those pills. About 18 [in the morning]. I'd lie there for five minutes with my eyes closed, and then it would kick in, and I could open my eyes again. Like, OK, I was ready to get up. That would carry me for about four hours."

 

The dependency allowed him a high, with waves of energy, surges of invincibility. His soreness numbed. Other things numbed, too. His family receded into the background, and his wife, Karen, temporarily left with their daughter.

 

"It was my fault," Mr. Angle said. "It was my abuse. It was me not caring about anything, not even myself. I was just doing my job, making a lot of money and thinking that was good enough for my family and that they should just shut up. I was happier on the road anyway, because nobody was there to stop me from taking my pills."

 

Mr. Angle wouldn't disclose the total number of pills he took every day, but he guessed the amount topped what anybody else in pro wrestling history had taken. He wrestled on the highs, sometimes collapsing by his hotel bed afterward, sobbing.

 

He often asked Mr. McMahon for time off but, according to his account which is disputed by the WWE, promised vacations often evaporated. He described one stretch during which three promised rest periods never occurred, undone each time by phone calls demanding he leave his couch and tough it up. Trips to Europe, then Connecticut, then Fresno, Calif.

 

Even when retelling the story, Mr. Angle became incredulous: "I was on my knees, begging for a month off!" he said, as nearby diners turned and looked. "Why? Because my neck was broken!"

 

After three months of separation from his wife and daughter, Mr. Angle sought help, he said. Friends and WWE officials expressed concern.

 

"Near death," Mr. Angle called it.

 

"I told him there was no way we'd work out [our marriage] unless he got through this," his wife said.

 

So he tried to quit the pills, he said, depending on the same trait that had led him to the Atlanta Olympics -- the ability to ignore logical human boundaries. He said his doctor suggested tapering the daily pill intake: 55, 40, 25 ... but he refused, demanding a cold turkey approach, though the doctor warned such a drastic change could kill him.

 

What happened, precisely, during the period Mr. Angle now refers to as rehab stirs debate. He says he never went to a clinic. He asked WWE officials for time off, he said, but they refused. Mr. McMahon, he said, ordered him to fight withdrawal while continuing to wrestle.

 

Jerry McDevitt, principal outside legal counsel for the WWE, said Mr. McMahon made no such demand. It was Mr. Angle's desire to compete, no matter what, that kept him in the ring, said Mr. McDevitt, a member of the Pittsburgh-based Kirkpatrick & Lockhart Nicholson Graham law firm.

 

"Every day," Mr. Angle said, "I was just uncomfortable the whole time. I felt like I had to go to the bathroom, but I didn't. I was cramping, sweating, head hurting. Every part of the body is aching. Skin is crawling. It hurts to touch. It hurts not to touch. It's impossible to get comfortable, just shaking all of the time."

 

Although he said he gave up painkillers last year, talk within the wrestling industry of Mr. Angle's problems resurfaced this summer following his 30-day suspension from the WWE.

 

Once Mr. Angle left the WWE for good, most wrestling followers figured his career was over. A letter he posted on his personal Web site suggested as much. He recounted his injuries, explained that life on the road can be a "living hell" and thanked his fans. God bless, he wrote, and then he signed his name at the bottom. WWE officials, Mr. McMahon included, hoped their old wrestler would use the break to recuperate, Mr. McDevitt said.

 

"The WWE has done everything it can to help Kurt and continues to be concerned about his wellbeing," Mr. McDevitt said. "I think Kurt needs to direct his tremendous competitive heart to solving his issues and getting them squared away."

 

 

A date with Samoa Joe

Mr. Angle promised his wife he'd take six months off, minimum. That way, he could spend time with Karen, their daughter, Kyra, almost 4, and their son Kody, born Oct. 26. But soon, offers of new jobs interrupted his plan. He thought about an opportunity with the Ultimate Fighting Championship and spoke with its president Dana White. Then he heard from TNA President Dixie Carter.

 

She said all the right things. He could spend less time on the road, performing roughly a half-dozen shows a month. He could use the exposure, perhaps, to find roles in movies or television shows. Plus, of course, he could wrestle.

 

"They basically said to us, 'We're a growing company that needs a great athlete,' " said Mr. Hawk, Mr. Angle's manager.

 

Highlights of Mr. Angle's TNA brawl with Samoa Joe, taped a month ago, have already become a YouTube sensation. Mr. Angle, at one point, head-butted his 290-pound opponent, leaving him with a wide open gash on his head. Later, he danced around the ring, wearing nothing but black tights emblazoned with a star. He knocked Samoa Joe to the mat, later falling down himself, the victim of a sneak attack as he preened for the crowd. Soon, the two behemoths rolled off the mat and scuffled near the carpeted arena entranceway, where security and refs separated them.

 

Fans chanted, "Angle! Angle! Angle!"

 

Mr. Angle said later, "I felt like I was home."

 

He'll know when to retire for good, he said recently. Just not yet. Others will watch the action, out of both fascination and fear.

 

"Everybody in wrestling puts their long-term health on the line," Mr. Meltzer said, "but he does it more so than everybody else. Others understand the point where they have to slow down. But with Kurt, I don't think he will ever slow down. He is going to be Kurt Angle until he is, maybe, incapacitated."

 

A few fans at Eat'n Park stopped by Mr. Angle's table, interrupting him as he told the story of his career's next chapter. He smiled and posed for pictures. One girl, a runner, told him about her Olympic hopes. Several asked about his wrestling career, or requested autographs. For one, he signed on a napkin.

 

Kurt Angle, he wrote.

 

Then, in all caps, he added two words below his name, TNA. SpikeTV, and handed the napkin back to the fan, asking him to watch.

 

 

So in this story we find out:

 

Angle was indeed the major addict that everyone was reporting, but was able to quit cold turkey despite taking more painkillers than anyone in wrestling history.

 

He begged WWE for time off, and Vince said no, undoubtedly twirling an imaginary villian moustache whilst saying it.

 

His sister died of a herion overdose despite it being reported at the time she had the same heart problems that killed their father and plauge the Angle family.

 

He claims he knows when it'll be time to retire, despite continuing to work with limb numbness and a painkiller habit that would knock out an elephant.

 

At least he didn't claim he bodyslammed a 700 Big Show in front of 100,000 in Wembley Stadium.

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And from the Pittsburgh Times Dispatch:

 

Grappling with addiction

 

By Rob Rossi

TRIBUNE-REVIEW

Sunday, November 12, 2006

 

The glare convinced Karen Angle that her husband was going to survive.

 

That glare -- the one that helped Kurt Angle intimidate opponents at Mt. Lebanon High School, at Clarion University, at the Olympic Games and for World Wrestling Entertainment -- told her everything she needed to know.

 

That glare was going to get Kurt Angle past a two-year addiction to painkillers.

 

"I was a junkie," said Kurt Angle, who was hooked on pain-killing pills such as Percocet, Vicodin, Norco and Lorcet. He popped as many as 65 pills a day.

 

 

Angle said he has been clean for more than a year, clean from drugs he thought he needed to pay the heavy toll caused by his livelihood.

 

Angle parted ways with WWE on Aug. 25 -- ending a relationship of nearly eight years that earned him millions of dollars and devoted fans.

 

He is now the centerpiece for Total Nonstop Action Wrestling, a fledgling organization attempting to challenge the domination of Vince McMahon's WWE empire. Angle's first TNA match will air on cable's Spike network toward the end of a two-hour broadcast that starts at 9 p.m. Thursday.

 

Last week, at his spacious home in Moon, a quick glance at his 4-year-old daughter, Kyra, and month-old son, Kody, provided all the inspiration Angle needed to stay sober. Yet continuing his career will mean pain. It is part of the job description.

 

"It tore my soul apart. I missed the first two years of my daughter's life," said Angle, 37.

 

"Painkillers are like heroin. When you get caught up in it, you start taking 10 or 20. I was up to 65 a day. I had to take 18 to get out of bed. I went to the pharmacy every other day. I found a way to get 10 different doctors to get my prescriptions. It worked out perfectly; every other day I got 120 pills. My first priority was to get to the pharmacy."

 

Angle's obsession with giving fans his best effort led to his addiction.

 

"Leave everything on the mat" is what Angle's best friend, Dave Schultz, the late amateur wrestling icon, had always preached.

 

Angle would do just that. To do it again the next night, his body needed some help.

 

"Call it stupidity or bravery ... I'm not going to rob the fans," said Angle. "People expect to see Kurt Angle, and they don't expect me to take it easy. I treat (professional wrestling) the same way as the Olympics. I don't know any other way."

 

Angle knew no other way during a match Aug. 13 against Rob Van Dam at an Extreme Championship Wrestling event -- a WWE subsidiary -- in White Plains, N.Y.

 

The first part of Angle's body to surrender was a groin muscle, which he pulled. Not a problem, really, as Angle had worked through similar predicaments previously.

 

Next, Angle said he detached an abdominal muscle from the pelvic bone. Slight problem, considering his core was now weakened. However, the crowd was into the match, and Angle did not wish to disappoint them by orchestrating a premature finish.

 

Finally, Angle blew out his hamstring. Big problem, as Angle could barely stand.

 

Still, he and Van Dam finished their match.

 

The crowd roared with approval.

 

Angle soaked in the sounds as he lay on the ring apron.

 

"I knew that was my last match (for WWE)," he said.

 

The man billed as "The Wrestling Machine" could not walk without assistance two days after the match. His leg was a sickening shade of black.

 

Angle's cell phone rang Aug. 15. On the line was an agent from the WWE. Angle was needed for another match.

 

Angle, via his personal manager, Dave Hawk, refused.

 

Following the match with Van Dam, an enlightened Angle knew there was no way he could step into a wrestling ring and perform up to his lofty expectations -- let alone meet those of his fans.

 

The pain would have proven too great. There would have been only one way to cope with such hurt.

 

"And I'm never going near those things again," said Angle. "I have too much at stake -- my wife, my children, my family, myself."

 

During one of many doctor-supervised drug rehab sessions at his home last year, Angle made some promises -- to his wife, to his children, to his mother, to his four brothers, to the memories of Schultz, his dead father and sister and to those within his inner circle.

 

Angle promised he would never again pop a painkiller.

 

On Aug. 15, those promises weighed heavily on Angle.

 

Ten days later, he spoke with McMahon at WWE headquarters. During the meeting, Angle said his former boss told him that "a gold medal and a cup of coffee don't mean (anything)."

 

Minutes before that comment, Angle said an agreement had been reached to part ways amicably.

 

Angle said McMahon agreed to pay him during his time away from the company and even offered to draw up a new contract when Angle's health returned.

 

"There were many reasons I wanted to leave," said Angle.

 

But he said McMahon's remarks left a wound that has yet to heal.

 

"I love Vince. He's a great guy. But he treated me like a superhero. He wanted me to rehab on the road instead of at home. My doctor said I couldn't do that. Vince said that I was an Olympic goal medalist and I could overcome anything. ...

 

"Then, one day, my Olympic medal didn't mean (anything)."

 

McMahon would not comment. He referred questions to attorney Jerry McDevitt, of the Pittsburgh-based law firm Kirkpatrick, Lockhart, Nicholson and Graham. McDevitt has served as outside general counsel to the WWE for 20 years.

 

"The WWE cares greatly about Kurt Angle the person and Kurt Angle the performer," McDevitt said. "It is our hope that he applies that huge and creative heart of his in the right direction so that we can all see that happen."

 

The WWE suspended Angle last summer after he failed a drug test that wrestlers are randomly subjected to under the company's wellness policy.

 

Angle said he failed the test because he was receiving cortisone shots in his neck. The pain was the result of four severe neck injuries he had suffered -- the first at the 1996 Olympic trials.

 

Dixie Carter, president of TNA, said she had "very honest conversations (with Angle) from the beginning" about the drug abuse.

 

According to Carter, TNA consulted with Angle's physicians about his injuries and addiction. Carter said TNA received clearances "on all levels" for Angle to compete.

 

"TNA has a strict drug policy and does not tolerate illegal drugs or substance abuse on any level," Carter said.

 

Angle's battles with addiction and against his industry's most powerful man -- McMahon -- have not cost him that famously intense glare.

 

Without it, a piece of him is missing -- just as a piece is missing from the gold medal that he won for freestyle wrestling in Atlanta at the 1996 Summer Olympics.

 

Sometime since then, during a speaking engagement at an area school, a 6-year-old flung that prized possession against a wall and chipped it.

 

Angle can appreciate the symbolism of his gold medal not being whole.

 

Until recently, neither was he.

 

"The gold medal is just a piece of gold," Angle said. "It's not what I did; it's just a symbol. Dave taught me that the gold medal is not me. Just like the character isn't me. It's not who I am."

 

Karen Angle never did buy into her husband's wrestling personna. If she had, Kurt Angle might not be helping to raise the couple's two children.

 

"You know he's serious when he gets that glare," Karen Angle said. "When he started looking at dealing with the problems with that glare, that's how I knew he was going to make it."

 

Kurt Angle credited his wife with "saving (his) life."

 

"There is no doubt in my mind that she is the reason I am still alive," he said. "She was trying to teach me things and get me help. I wouldn't listen."

 

Angle's bond with his wife is stronger than speculation that has surrounded the couple of almost eight years.

 

"All the rumors were untrue," Angle said. "I heard that I was getting a divorce because I beat her, that she was cheating on me, everything. It was ridiculous. We're fine."

 

Angle paused.

 

"I'm fine," he said. "I know a lot of people in Pittsburgh were worried. They thought Kurt Angle wasn't going to make it.

 

"I'm not going anywhere."

 

Intentionally or not, that glare returned.

This time he DOES name amounts of pills while explaining how he was doctor shopping, and then later in the article Dixie Carter puts over his "team of doctors."  AWESOME.

[Guest The Original HTQ]

Get ready to dial:

 

We've just received confirmation that Kurt Angle will be joining us as guest on Wrestling Observer Live tonight.

[Bix]

I don't have the energy and I want to prove that cunt Michrome wrong, so Sek or whoever can do it in my place and DO ME PROUD!

[Guest The Original HTQ]

First Hour

 

Angle on WOL now is saying that when he went to Smackdown he was the second choice. Shawn Michaels was the first choice but he turned it down. Angle says he disrespects Shawn for that. He aso said he was sick of being the utility guy and wanted to be 'the' guy.

 

Angle says he was going to win the main event of Wrestlemania XIX until he hurt his neck.

 

Doesn't think Vince ever protected him.

 

Says they spent all week writing for Raw and then the next day would panic over not having anything to do for Smackdown or ECW, and would just say, "Well we'll put Angle in the ring to wrestle and that'll take up 30 minutes."

 

Says he broke his neck against Shawn on the Homecoming Raw (might have the wrong match here) when he landed wrongly on an Angle Slam. Broke his C7 and T1.

 

Says he was getting tested for painkillers every week and passing shortly after this.

 

Said he asked for a month off after dropping the World Title at WM 22, which was agreed to and was then asked to go on tour overseas. Says they kept putting him on the road even when he asked for time off. From what he says, it was along the lines of him being asked "just do this one thing" time after time.

 

Says he was losing weight, wasn't on painkillers even though he was getting tested weekly. Had a cortisone shot in his neck to help, and when he was drug tested they found steroids, the cortisone, and was suspended for a month which angered him. Said that eight others also tested positive but nothing was done about them, and that also upset him. Said he lost $125,000 from being suspended. Was calling Vince and Johnny Ace and was upset with them. Said it was at this point he decided to leave. Was calling UFC and they made him an offer that was good but he turned it down because they wanted to 'own him' and 'nobody was going to own Kurt Angle'. After this he was told he was going to ECW which he wasn't happy with but Vince told him he would be the top guy but then it ended up with Heyman writing Van Dam as the top guy. Vince met with Kurt and he handed Kurt a bunch of papers with a list of all the messages that Kurt had left Vince and Johnny Ace. Said he told Vince he wanted either part-time or he'd quit, Vince refused, and Angle said he quit. Angle shot back with that he had a big money offer from PRIDE, and Vince said "Fine, take it. Go."

 

Said he was Vince's top draw. Commended Cena and Shawn, but said he was the best wrestler and people came to see him wrestler.

 

Second Hour

 

Expects a very physical match with Joe. Says he and Joe have been treating it as a shoot. Says the match won't be pretty but it will be great.

 

Says the eight guys who failed the tests had scripts from a surgeon/doctor , but his was from a pain doctor(?), so theirs was legally ok.

 

Says if you pick the ten greatest matches in WWE history, he'll be part of all ten.

 

Says Joe is tough and that it'll be a challenge to keep up with him.

 

Talked about giving advice in ECW and TNA. Says he was an agent in ECW, and that when he gave advice to someone in ECW they complained to someone about it, saying Kurt had only been in the business for six years when they'd been in it for fourteen. Dixie and Jeff Jarrett told Kurt to teach the TNA wrestlers the things he knows but they don't. Kurt said he studied wrestling tape from the 70s which is why he has more wrestling. Says the WWE wrestlers wouldn't even tie up, and it'd be chop and punch.

 

Says he's in TNA to not just be a wrestler but an agent. He likes advising the wrestlers and doing the agent stuff. Tells wrestlers to do what they do well and stay away from what they don't do well.

 

Says the six-sided ring has less dead time, as there isn't much time from when you throw someone into the ropes and when they bound back. Says it requires more improvisation, and he picked that skill up from Patterson, Ace, Briscoe, etc.

 

Kurt says he is 100%. His arms grew two and half inches, his groin is fine and he's fine.

 

Says the match he tore his groin in against Van Dam was one of RVD's best ever, and the fans gave him a ten minute standing ovation. Kurt told the agents how injured he was and was told he was going to the next ECW house show and he decided there and then to quit. The next time he saw Vince, he pulled his pants down and he was all black and blue from where he was badly injured.

 

Kurt says he has plans to go to Japan and MMA. He's all for it and so is Dixie, but that Dixie wants him healthy for it. They're still working the details out if it. Kurt says he expects to have 1-3 MMA matches.

 

Says the prime-time TNA show is the best TNA show ever. Says the AJ Styles match is awesome and must-see.

 

Says PRIDE offered him three fights at $1m a fight plus $3m in endorsements.

 

Says UFC offered one fight for $10.4 million. Would have been in Season 5 of TUF and in the crowd for future seasons.

 

Says Dixie Carter will sit in the stands and watch the show which he's never seen before out of the owner of the company.

 

Says Dixie won't let anyone wrestler who is injured and they will work around it.

 

Says TNA blows WWE's talent away. They just need a little more guidance, and that nobody knows their names. TNA will get there. Says he can have ***** matches with so many of their wrestlers. Says he can't say the same about WWE wrestlers, about 90% of them. Calls TNA the best kept secret in the world and has wanted to join them for two years.

 

Says TNA has comparable production to WWE, sometimes better. Says Dave Sahadi is the best production guy in the business.

 

Says Dixie had him take three physicals from three different doctorss. Had him drug tested once that knew about ahead of time and then another surprise one.

 

Wants/expects Spike to offer a two-hour slot within three months.

 

Bryan asked Kurt if he is too driven that he'll not be able to ask for time off when he needs it. Kurt says he'll have trouble saying he needs time off and he might even lie/have trouble lying to Dixie about needing time off.

 

Kurt said his goal is the run the show(?) and take it to Vince and tell him he saw what he did right and wrong.

 

Kurt said he's been in the ring in so much pain he's been taking pains up the wazoo. Said he wanted to go to rehab but was told he couldn't and he had to rehab himself through prayer and such. Said he won't do that to himself again.

 

Says if he has minor injuries he'll lie to Dixie and say he's fine but if it's major he'll come clean.

 

Kurt says he is clean but when the time comes he'll leave his boots in the ring and walk away. Says he's not afraid of letting go of the fame. Says he can do other stuff, like running the show.

 

Says Vince was too eager to get on Sci-Fi with more product.

 

Says 65% of WWE talented are worried they're going to get fired and the other 35% are unhappy anyway.

 

Says Vince is reaching too much and with three promotions there is only so much you can do. Said Vince is abusing the talent, and refered to driving 3, 4, 8 and then 3 hours for consecutive shows.

 

Says WWE have spread themselves too thin and TNA are now the best show on TV. Said that Raw was well written, though.

 

Criticised some of the stuff on Raw that you don't want your kids watching and that a lot of the WWE's audience is kids, and that WWE has been irresponsible.

 

Says someone in the Kurt-Angle-Steph triangle didn't want it to continue and that that same person said Kurt shouldn't/couldn't be champion. When someone, maybe Kurt, said what would happen in this person and Kurt had shoot match the persion knocking Kurt put his head down and Vince said Kurt was going to be champion.

 

Says he wants to be the top star in TNA but if someone comes along and can get bigger than Kurt he'll step aside and let them get big because that'll mean he can make more money.

 

A caller got cut off and things broke down. Was asked about the When Harry Met Sally spoof with Christy Hemme and if Kurt would do that sort of thing in TNA. Kurt said he wanted to do comedy. Said Spike is writing up stuff for him to do in both TV and movies.

 

A caller asked about angles Kurt shot down and if the main mentality in TNA is all about beating Vince

 

Dave thinks the mentality is about getting the word out about TNA because so few people know.

 

Kurt came back on and said he'd go back to be accepted into the WWE HoF. Says he wasn't keen on the Booker T-Sharmell angle talking about bestiality.

 

Kurt finishes off by saying he and Samoa Joe will be MOTY.

[Loss]

Thanks for the recap.

 

So, he'd be in all 10 of the Top 10 Matches in WWF/E history? Riiiight ...