Control21 Posted February 11 Report Share Posted February 11 A little while back, I worked on a list of rookies for 1990. I used a combination of The Top Ranked Pro Wrestlers by Rookie Year-1990 (ainsworthsports.com) and Category:1990 debuts | Pro Wrestling | Fandom and cross-checked a good chunk of the names with Cagematch, Wikipedia, Wrestling Data, etc. I used the rules listed elsewhere to filter out names that wouldn't qualify like Great Sasuke and other Japan/Mexico wrestlers that didn't work dates in US/Canada. I also didn't include anyone who didn't have much information on them. This is the list I came up with, it's by no means exhaustive and I probably missed a few. Some might already be in the game and I didn't catch them when I looked when coming up with this. Alfred “911” Poling Barry Hardy Bill DeMott Carl Brantley? (AKA Vladimir Koloff. Mixed dates here. Cagematch and Wrestling Data say 1991) Chris Jericho Chris Hamrick Chris Von Erich Dave Sullivan Debbie Malenko Donald “Hack Meyers” Haviland Duane “Gillberg” Gill Glen “Thrasher” Ruth Glen Osbourne Horace Hogan Ian Rotten Jason “EZ Money” Broyles Jeannie Clark (manager) Joe Gomez Jose Estrada Jr. JT Smith Kevin Kruger Kevin Nash Lance Storm Lester Speight Marc Mero? (started training in 1990, didn’t debut until 1991) Marcus “Buff” Bagwell Mike “Duke” Droese Mitch Ryder Phil "Damien Demento" Theis Rich Myers Rick Fuller Rick "Renegade" Williams Rob Van Dam Saraya Knight (as a manager) Scott "Scotty 2 Hotty" Garland Sean Waltman T. Rantula Terri Runnels (as a manager) Tony “Ludvig Borga” Halme Vito “Big Vito” LoGrasso William “Billy Black” White Jr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinmcfl Posted February 11 Report Share Posted February 11 This is so helpful. Thanks a lot!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainmakerrtv Posted February 11 Report Share Posted February 11 Excellent work, this will be incredibly helpful. One small clarification would be to list him as Phil "Mondo Kleen/Damien Demento" Theis. A few others are Jeannie Clark (manager of Steve Austin), Joe Gomez/Allen Iron Eagle, and Indy journeynman T. Rantula. What would be the ruling on Sean Waltman and Scott "Scotty 2 Hottie" Taylor? Both are listed as starting in 1989, and while they were in Indy territories that didn't get a lot of coverage, they were active in 1990. I know that Lightning Kid got covered in 1990 in the Apter mags, and was already a known commodity when he was featured in the GWF in 1991. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainmakerrtv Posted February 11 Report Share Posted February 11 Also East Coast Indy star Cheetah Master and Mike "Leatherface" Samples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Control21 Posted February 11 Author Report Share Posted February 11 41 minutes ago, rainmakerrtv said: Excellent work, this will be incredibly helpful. One small clarification would be to list him as Phil "Mondo Kleen/Damien Demento" Theis. A few others are Jeannie Clark (manager of Steve Austin), Joe Gomez/Allen Iron Eagle, and Indy journeynman T. Rantula. What would be the ruling on Sean Waltman and Scott "Scotty 2 Hottie" Taylor? Both are listed as starting in 1989, and while they were in Indy territories that didn't get a lot of coverage, they were active in 1990. I know that Lightning Kid got covered in 1990 in the Apter mags, and was already a known commodity when he was featured in the GWF in 1991. It looks like Sean Waltman had his first match in 1990 and did a fair amount that year. Scotty 2 Hotty had a match in 1989 and did some more stuff in 1990. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainmakerrtv Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 Just found another one : Rick "Renegade" Williams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastStopTour Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 For what it's worth, Wrestledata has the following list for 1990 debuts: Adefesio Akemi Torisu Akitoshi Saito Alda Moreno The American Kickboxer Ángel del Futuro El Ángel Exterminador ATM Austin Storm Awesome Kong Baby Lover Bad Crew #1 Bad Crew #2 Bad Nurse Nakamura Bestia del Futuro Bill DeMott Bill Skullion Billy Black Black Abyss Blackhart Bobby Clancy Bobby Jay Bodacious Pretty Boy Boogie Woogie Brown Bracito de Plata Brian Anthony Buff Bagwell Centella Cheetah Master Choden Senshi Battle Ranger Chris Jericho Coco Verde Colibrí Colt Derringer Comando Delta Cometa Roja Crusher Maedomari Damien Demento Dave Sullivan Debbie Malenko Demon Star Diluvio Negro #2 Dino Casanova Drake Morimatsu Duke Droese Dynamite D Earl Kennedy Eric Freedom Espíritu Maligno Euforia EZ Ryder The Falcon Falcon Coperis Flama Solar Flying Kid Ichihara Frankie Sloan Freight Train Fulton Fuerza Chicana FUNAKI GAMI Gemini Kid Giant González Gillberg Glen Osbourne Go Narumi The Great Sasuke Hack Meyers Hardcore Craig Harley Johnson El Hijo del Solitario Hikari Fukuoka Hiroshi Hatanaka Horace Hogan Ian Rotten Ice Train Igor Joe Gómez José Estrada Jr. JT Smith Karissma Katsutoshi Niiyama Keiko Iwami Kevin Krueger Kevin Nash King Jaguar Kintaro Kanemura Koichiro Kimura Koji Kanemoto Krusher Kong Lance Storm Leroy Howard Magnum Manabu Yamada Mark Kissell Mark Madden Masaaki Satake Masahito Kakihara Masaomi Morishige Masao Orihara Mayumi Shimizu Mazambula Michelle Martell Michiyoshi Ohara Mike Anthony Mike Winner Mini Mariachi Miss Janeth Mitch Ryder Mohawk Mr. Niebla Mr. Tattoo The Nighthawk Noboru Asahi Nobukazu Hirai Oro Otis Apollo Pancho Tequila Paul Atlas Payasito Negro Pequeño Cochisse Pequeño Violencia Perry Saturn Polaris Policeman El Potro Jr. Ravishing Randy Ray González The Renegade Rey Gato Rey Persa Ricky Blues Rikki Regal Rob Van Dam Romeo Valentino RT Williams Ryo Miyake Scott Hudson Scotty Summers Shane Morton Sharlie Rockstar Shiho Tsubaki Spartan Steve Lynskey The Stro Súper Caló Takaku Fuke Tasha Simone Tatanka Terri Thrasher Tim Burke Tinieblas Jr. Trevor Blanchard T. Von Rantula Último Guerrero Ultraman Robin Viper 1st Vito Vladimir Koloff Yukie Nabeno Yuki Lee Zakk Wylde Zumbido Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Control21 Posted April 11 Author Report Share Posted April 11 9 minutes ago, LastStopTour said: For what it's worth, Wrestledata has the following list for 1990 debuts: Adefesio Akemi Torisu Akitoshi Saito Alda Moreno The American Kickboxer Ángel del Futuro El Ángel Exterminador ATM Austin Storm Awesome Kong Baby Lover Bad Crew #1 Bad Crew #2 Bad Nurse Nakamura Bestia del Futuro Bill DeMott Bill Skullion Billy Black Black Abyss Blackhart Bobby Clancy Bobby Jay Bodacious Pretty Boy Boogie Woogie Brown Bracito de Plata Brian Anthony Buff Bagwell Centella Cheetah Master Choden Senshi Battle Ranger Chris Jericho Coco Verde Colibrí Colt Derringer Comando Delta Cometa Roja Crusher Maedomari Damien Demento Dave Sullivan Debbie Malenko Demon Star Diluvio Negro #2 Dino Casanova Drake Morimatsu Duke Droese Dynamite D Earl Kennedy Eric Freedom Espíritu Maligno Euforia EZ Ryder The Falcon Falcon Coperis Flama Solar Flying Kid Ichihara Frankie Sloan Freight Train Fulton Fuerza Chicana FUNAKI GAMI Gemini Kid Giant González Gillberg Glen Osbourne Go Narumi The Great Sasuke Hack Meyers Hardcore Craig Harley Johnson El Hijo del Solitario Hikari Fukuoka Hiroshi Hatanaka Horace Hogan Ian Rotten Ice Train Igor Joe Gómez José Estrada Jr. JT Smith Karissma Katsutoshi Niiyama Keiko Iwami Kevin Krueger Kevin Nash King Jaguar Kintaro Kanemura Koichiro Kimura Koji Kanemoto Krusher Kong Lance Storm Leroy Howard Magnum Manabu Yamada Mark Kissell Mark Madden Masaaki Satake Masahito Kakihara Masaomi Morishige Masao Orihara Mayumi Shimizu Mazambula Michelle Martell Michiyoshi Ohara Mike Anthony Mike Winner Mini Mariachi Miss Janeth Mitch Ryder Mohawk Mr. Niebla Mr. Tattoo The Nighthawk Noboru Asahi Nobukazu Hirai Oro Otis Apollo Pancho Tequila Paul Atlas Payasito Negro Pequeño Cochisse Pequeño Violencia Perry Saturn Polaris Policeman El Potro Jr. Ravishing Randy Ray González The Renegade Rey Gato Rey Persa Ricky Blues Rikki Regal Rob Van Dam Romeo Valentino RT Williams Ryo Miyake Scott Hudson Scotty Summers Shane Morton Sharlie Rockstar Shiho Tsubaki Spartan Steve Lynskey The Stro Súper Caló Takaku Fuke Tasha Simone Tatanka Terri Thrasher Tim Burke Tinieblas Jr. Trevor Blanchard T. Von Rantula Último Guerrero Ultraman Robin Viper 1st Vito Vladimir Koloff Yukie Nabeno Yuki Lee Zakk Wylde Zumbido Yeah, I used Wrestling Data to help come up with my original list. Like I said, I left off names from Japan/Mexico that didn't do any US dates and people that didn't have much information on them. Might be a few that got through the cracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainmakerrtv Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 Important clarification (just in case there is any confusion) that the Awesome Kong on that list is not the female wrestler Kia Stevens but a male wrestler who was part of the Colossal Kongs with King Kong and had a brief run in WCW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Control21 Posted April 11 Author Report Share Posted April 11 2 minutes ago, rainmakerrtv said: Important clarification (just in case there is any confusion) that the Awesome Kong on that list is not the female wrestler Kia Stevens but a male wrestler who was part of the Colossal Kongs with King Kong and had a brief run in WCW. Going by both Wikipedia and Wrestling Data, it appears Awesome Kong actually debuted in 1991 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowBlowPodcast Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 I appreciate that big list - for what its worth - I've got Giant Gonzalez and Tatanka on my roster but have yet to use either of them. I can hold off till 90 if people think that would be more appropriate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinmcfl Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 No, Lowblow, feel free to use who is on your roster. They are part of the game now and we will not include them in the 1990 draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainmakerrtv Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 Chris Hamrick was active by this period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainmakerrtv Posted April 22 Report Share Posted April 22 Prelim wrestler Barry Hardy was active by now. I mention this as he and Duane "Gillberg" Gill were a pretty fun jobber tag team, both under their own names and as the masked Executioners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowBlowPodcast Posted April 29 Report Share Posted April 29 I guess I will throw the first egg... when is it too early / just the right time to release the draft order so we can meticulously plan and decipher ways to make Gillberg the man, the myth, and the legend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinmcfl Posted April 29 Report Share Posted April 29 I will use a number randomizer soon and get a draft list up. Hopefully this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowBlowPodcast Posted May 7 Report Share Posted May 7 Glen Osborne is thrasher right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainmakerrtv Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 56 minutes ago, LowBlowPodcast said: Glen Osborne is thrasher right? No, Glenn Ruth was Thrasher. Glen Osbourne was an East Coast Indy guy who appeared in the very early days of ECW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainmakerrtv Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 That said, Glen Ruth (Thrasher) is said by Wikipedia to have made his debut in 1990. I seem to recall having seen him do jobs in WWF around that time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowBlowPodcast Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 33 minutes ago, rainmakerrtv said: That said, Glen Ruth (Thrasher) is said by Wikipedia to have made his debut in 1990. I seem to recall having seen him do jobs in WWF around that time. That is where my thinking was… I remember him with hair… ‘‘twas weird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinmcfl Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 Using a number generator, the draft order for the 1990's rookie draft has been determined. This draft will be held in early November and it is not a snake draft. The order remains the same throughout the draft. Any writer to join Dawn of War before the draft date will be added to the back of the draft. UWF is allowed to add any wrestlers who started in 1990 but wrestled in Europe, Asia, South America and Australia. These wrestlers can not be drafted by any of the United States or Canadian territories and not eligible to wrestle in one of these promotions until they debut in the U.S. or Canada in real life. 1990 Rookie Draft Order 1. PCW: 2. NWA: Traded to WWF 3. WCW: Traded to PCW 4. AWA: Trade with WWF 5. WWF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowBlowPodcast Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 1 hour ago, kevinmcfl said: Using a number generator, the draft order for the 1990's rookie draft has been determined. This draft will be held in early November and it is not a snake draft. The order remains the same throughout the draft. Any writer to join Dawn of War before the draft date will be added to the back of the draft. UWF is allowed to add any wrestlers who started in 1990 but wrestled in Europe, Asia, South America and Australia. These wrestlers can not be drafted by any of the United States or Canadian territories and not eligible to wrestle in one of these promotions until they debut in the U.S. or Canada in real life. 1990 Rookie Draft Order 1. PCW 2. NWA 3. WCW 4. AWA 5. WWF 6. CSW As a heads up, WWF has acquired the NWA and AWAs first picks as part of previous deals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainmakerrtv Posted June 9 Report Share Posted June 9 According to Wikipedia, David Tyler Cash, the future Kid Kash, debuted in October, 1989. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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