The Thread Killer

Yeah some of those rolling side suplexes were impressive but they got a little convoluted and awkward looking.

I feel that if you're on your honeymoon, and you find yourself in the crowd at a Pro Wrestling show holding up a sign that says "Just Married" you might need to reconsider your life choices.

The visual of Velveteen Dream preening all over the place while Breeze totally ignores him and stares at his phone is actually pretty funny.

Ford leaping from the top rope onto the ladder was pretty amazing.

Man, that was a damn war. And 2/2 as far as quality matches on this show so far, too.

Man Gunner is a freaking beast. Vince may actually like him.

For sure. "This ladder match has been a car crash! Total carnage! By the way...drive safe."

No doubt. Even by Ladder Match standards this has been insane. It's like these guys know this show is flying under the radar so they've decided to kill themselves to bring it up a notch.

HOLY CRAP that leapfrog onto the ladder was insane.

DAMN Dawkins got some AIR on that dive.

OMG Ranallo just said "on like Donkey Kong."

NXT has a pretty damn solid Tag Team division, really. Pity none of them have any hope when or if they ever get called up to the main roster.

I know it isn't going to happen, but I really wish Burch and Lorcan would win this match. I can't see The Street Profits not winning it.

Good input. Thanks for dropping by the watch along thread to share with us the fact that you won't be watching along.

I'm happy to watch this show, I generally enjoy NXT (despite Mauro Ranallo) and a couple of these matches have a lot of potential. I agree with @sek69 and @Mad Dog, this whole tough guy gimmick for Sam Roberts makes no sense whatsoever. Firstly, he's just burying guys for no reason. Secondly - look at the guy. Him acting tough just doesn't work. You can tell when he was in school he got hung upside down by the ankles and got his head dunked in the toilet FOR SURE. This opener between Riddle and Strong has been solid as hell, both guys are great hard-hitting mat workers. Riddle is really starting to grow on me. The nickname "Messiah of the Backbreaker" makes no sense whatsoever and it isn't helped by Ranallo screaming it at the top of his lungs repeatedly. My roomie just walked by and asked: "Why is that spazzy guy screaming like that?" Damn solid match. Face it, Strong is never going to be a top name but if he keeps working like this he has potential to carve out a great career as a solid midcard guy, or maybe on 205?

You hit the nail right on the head. I love NXT, and I can't honestly say that there has ever been a Takeover that I would classify as being a "bad" show. Some are better than others obviously, but they hit the target a lot more often than not. But as a fan, I'm finding it harder and harder to enjoy NXT when I know that if there is a talent I really like, the odds are about 3-1 that they're going to get either criminally misused or totally buried once they get called up to the main roster. I find it kind of hilarious that one of the talents that I liked the least from NXT in Baron Corbin, is one of the few NXT guys who got a massive push upon being called up. Also, maybe it's just me but I have noticed a significant difference in the quality and style of NXT shows since Shawn Michaels started working there.

He was. Brian Last can also be very smug and dismissive and obnoxious. I can't stand people reviewing something when they either haven't seen it or went into watching it already knowing what their opinion was going to be.

Over the past few days I finally saw the entire AEW PPV, and just listened to Cornette's review. I don't always agree with Cornette regarding a lot of things, but in my opinion about 90% of his criticisms were dead-on. People can blow as many gaskets as they want regarding Cornette and things he has said in the past, but if you only read isolated statements from his review and didn't listen to the actual show then you're not getting the full picture and you need to shut the fuck up and stop looking for things to get offended over. For example, people have been focusing on the fact that he used the word "transvestite" when talking about Sonny Kiss therefore he's homophobic and transphobic and islamophobic and arachnaphobic and quadrophobic and he's not nearly diverse or inclusive or progressive enough and derp derp derp. Listen to his review. He reviews the Women's Fatal Four Way. He talks quite positively about Nyla Rose and never once even references the fact that she is transgender. Hell, his biggest complaint is that Awesome Kong shouldn't have been debuted in this match because it took away from making Rose look like a destroyer. If he was so transphobic, you'd think Nyla Rose would have been the perfect opportunity for him to expose himself for being so ignorant - except he focused all of his criticisms of this match on totally legitimate (and accurate, might I add) wrestling related concerns. In fact, if you went by just this review you wouldn't even know Nyla Rose was transgender because he doesn't mention it and doesn't even allude to it. Look, I believe in God. Jim Cornette is not only an atheist, he is absolutely fanatical about that fact. He regularly insults, berates, mocks and generally questions the intelligence of anybody who believes in God or is a member of any organized religion. I consider myself to be politically Conservative (or at least Libertarian.) He hates Conservative people are will often rant about them endlessly on his podcast. Do I agree with him? Nope, not one little bit. Does what he says insult or offend me at times? Nope. At worst, it annoys me. Just as he thinks people who share my opinions are ignorant, I think his opinion is ignorant. That doesn't automatically invalidate his opinion about other things - especially those things about which he is clearly an expert. When I listen to his show I just put on my big boy pants and prepare to hear the opinions of somebody with whom I might not always agree. What I don't do is use the fact that he holds opinions I disagree with as a reason to invalidate or ignore his other opinions. Cornette knows Pro-Wrestling. He knows Pro-Wrestling history. Most importantly for this particular argument, he knows Pro-Wrestling television production, and a lot of his criticisms and complaints regarding this show were based on the production, how the show was presented to non-fans or those unfamiliar with AEW, and guess what? Most of them were right. If you listen to his review and you can't see the validity of his criticisms just because he once used the improper gender pro-noun or said something that offended you then you're being just as ignorant as he can be at times

I myself have been curious about what AEW was planning on doing for TV in Canada since we don't get TNT here. TSN would be a great option as it's a major national network on basic cable so I hope they can work out a deal. Aside from the fact they are not on basic cable and are basically a specialty channel, The Fight Network is probably not an option - although considering Anthem's open attitude regarding working with other promotions, who knows? Even though AEW are new, I'm betting they don't consider Impact competition. Why would they, really?

I was indeed quite happy to hear that news. The threat of Joey Ryan showing up has been one of the major factors preventing me from having much enthusiasm about this organization. I did laugh when I was checking out the wrestling news headlines and saw the following two practically on top of each other: "Tony Khan says AEW will be a more serious product" followed by... "Joey Ryan reportedly turns down AEW contract offer." I know Ryan did his whole penis druid act at All In, but I had been wondering how much of that crap he would have gotten away with in AEW long term. I can't see TNT letting him do his full act on television, even in 2019. And if AEW really does want to present a more serious "won/loss" based type of product, is Ryan really the kind of guy you want on your roster anyhow?

I have a question for those who saw the first Jericho/Omega match at Wrestle Kingdom 12, and then also saw the Main Event last night. From everything I have seen and read online, the general consensus seems to be that the WK12 Jericho/Omega match was very good/excellent. I saw a lot of people say it was the best Chris Jericho match they'd seen in years. Conversely, from everything I have seen so far people seem to be a bit disappointed with the Main Event last night, especially in comparison to their WK12 match. I'm curious as to people's opinions regarding what the difference was between the two matches, why the first match seemed to work and the second one wasn't as good?

To be fair, another major thing that would have stopped me from ordering this show is the fact that it takes place at the exact same time as the Raptors game. If the Toronto Raptors win tonight, they advance to the NBA finals for the first time in the 24 year history of the franchise. I'm not a major basketball fan, but I've been watching the playoffs and this is no small deal. And it's on free TV, so there's that. And although I guess it's technically possible, it's highly unlikely that Joey Ryan or his penis will factor into the basketball game.

That's another major concern I have regarding AEW. I get the suspicion that I am going to be a much bigger fan of the idea of AEW than I am of the actual product they end up producing. But time will tell. I will give them a chance...just not for $50.

You ain't kidding there. To be honest, I was not inclined to watch this show at first because I really don't care for Kenny Omega or the Young Bucks at all, and of course they will be featured heavily, (and rightly so.) Furthermore, I have a sneaky suspicion that although he has not been announced, Joey Ryan will make his presence felt on this show, and I would rather take a shot to the groin from a ball peen hammer than spend one dime furthering the career of Joey Ryan. On the other hand, the first Omega/Jericho match was quite good - Jericho has finally adapted his style to match his age and limitations and stopped trying to wrestle like it's 1999 , so the Main Event could be quite good. Also, I quite like the Lucha Brothers even though I don't care for that particular style of Tag Team Wrestling (I'm old school, I like my tag teams to actually tag in and out, not just do a bunch of stuff.) I think the build for Cody/Dustin has been great and I'd like to see that match. But most important of all, I do not care at all for the current WWE product and I want to support any group who is serious about providing an alternative. I am generally quite serious about that. I have shelled out a couple of times to order Impact shows since the Anthem regime has taken over. I could have waited a couple of hours and watched the show for free via less scrupulous means, but I wanted to pay fairly for a company that seems to be making an honest effort to provide a quality product as a WWE alternative in 2019. Once they announced that Double or Nothing was going to be available via traditional PPV, which meant I could watch it on my TV without having to bother hooking my laptop up to the TV and use Fite TV or some equally sketchy online streaming service which might crap out on me...I decided what the hell. I'll check out the card, and order the PPV. Then I actually saw the card - and this was before the PAC/Hangman match got scrapped. Then I saw the price for the PPV with my cable provider. FIFTY FREAKING BUCKS. I'm sorry, but that's just flat out insane. There is no way in hell this card is worth anywhere near $50. Hell, even asking for $35 for this show via Fite TV is a bit of an ask, but I probably would have paid that for the PPV on cable. You'd have to add at least 2 or 3 more major marquee matches to even get me to consider paying $50 to order a Pro Wrestling PPV in 2019. There is way too much quality content available for wrestling fans right now that is either much cheaper or in some cases, free. Why would I shell out $50 for this show, when I could watch pretty much any MLW show on YouTube for free? I'm all for supporting AEW on the basis of their trying to provide an alternative to WWE alone, but they made a MAJOR misstep with this price. I can't even imagine what the hell they were thinking.

From where I sit, two things Omega and Steamboat have in common are a natural athleticism and a problem at times with goofy, theatrical overselling. Steamboat always looked like he was playing to the cheap seats, even during TV matches when there were a lot of close-ups. Don't even get me started on Omega's outlandish facial expressions which are so campy and downright goofy that they have taken me right out of a match on more than one occasion - which seems to be the exact opposite of the assumed intention. If somebody is going to compare the two (which in itself is really a pointless exercise, I'll admit) it all comes down to body of work. Steamboat has an elite level resume (pardon the pun) while Omega isn't anywhere close to that yet. I know people like to compare the Okada/Omega Trilogy to the Flair/Steamboat Trilogy, which is fine I guess. I don't see it at all, but whatever. But bottom line, Omega doesn't have anywhere near the body of work that Steamboat does - nor should he be expected to at this point - so comparing the two seems pointless and intended to troll old school fans who don't care for the modern "PWG" style.