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  1. The Thread Killer

    NWA Powerrr

    Ha, that's hilarious. I love the Flair/Steamboat Trilogy from 89 and I've seen that match a million times, but I totally spaced out and forgot that.
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    WWE TLC - The Language Crashes (the board)

    I was flipping through the channels when I came across The New Day fighting The Revival on my WWE Network feed channel. I literally had no idea that there was a WWE PPV tonight. I have zilch going on this evening, so I'll watch this as long as it's good and it doesn't irritate me. So...not very long, probably. Hey, this crowd seems really dead. Hey, remember when gimmick matches were booked in order to blow off big feuds, due to an ongoing angle or story...and NOT just because there was a Pay Per View named TLC?
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    NWA Powerrr

    NWA: "Into The Fire" The PPV is coming from the GPB Studios in Atlanta where Power has been taping. I'd have much preferred that they held the PPV in a different venue to give the event a more "special" feel overall and differentiate the PPV events from the TV tapings. I legitimately enjoy old school studio wrestling, but even Georgia Championship Wrestling and JCP didn't hold their big shows in the Techwood Studios. I'm pretty sure the NWA could have found a small venue somewhere in the Atlanta area that seats 250-500 fans which they could have dressed up to look good. Hell, Impact can barely draw flies to their shows and they always manage to find small venues and dress them up to make their big shows look good. I love what Impact has been doing with The Rebel Complex here in Toronto, and I think they only put about 400 people in there. So the NWA could do it, if they tried. It's all about picking an appropriately sized venue so the place doesn't look half empty, then laying out the venue intelligently so it doesn't look cavernous (so unlike what ROH does) and then having the right number of seats and being smart about how you place the cameras and mic the crowd noise. Having said that, I do understand that the NWA is really trying to save money and run this organization in a fiscally intelligent manner. The GPB studio already has TV cameras and production equipment on site, so I can see why they chose to use it. Also, I will give them credit, they did try and spruce things up a bit for the PPV. The lighting was dimmer, they used theme music and the Wrestlers entered through a hall above the stands and descended to the ring down the steps, through the fans. That made it different from the Power tapings. This entrance also gave the babyfaces a good chance to interact with the fans. There was a man with a young kid (his son, I assume) who were sitting in the stands on the aisle, and I thought it was cute how Colt Cabana and Nick Aldis took the time to pay special attention to the kid. Also, Stu Bennett referred to the building on several occasions as "The NWA Arena" so I guess this is pretty much their home base for the time being. But long term, I really hope they just do the Power tapings there and then have the PPV events elsewhere. Speaking of Stu Bennett, I thought he did an outstanding job. I'd never heard him do Color Commentary before, but he was really good and really polished. To be honest, I actually preferred the combination of Galli & Bennett to Galli and Jim Cornette. Bennett was very serious, with a heelish slant to his commentary but he was also funny on a couple of occasions Bennett's commentary far exceeded my expectations and I am looking forward to him being the color man on Power from now on. Eli Drake vs. Ken Anderson This match was hardly a five-star classic, but it was a hell of a lot better than I expected it to be. That is entirely down to Eli Drake, though. Drake looked really sharp and in my opinion, this guy really needs to be one of the main focuses of the promotion in the future. He's awesome on the microphone (despite the continuous comparisons to The Rock and Stone Cold) and his ring work is solid. There was one awesome spot where Ken Anderson was slumped on the top turnbuckle (trying to catch his breath I assume) when Eli Drake did an amazing vertical leap to the top rope, it was very impressive. Ken Anderson was the reason this match wasn't better than just "good." He tried, and in the opening segment of the match they did some passable mat work and chain wrestling. The problem is, Ken Anderson is not in great physical condition. His belly is still quite ample and by the end of this match you could tell that he was clearly out of gas. Right before the finish, he was propped up in the corner huffing and puffing and looking exhausted, and believe me...it wasn't him selling. But despite that, this was a solid opener and it went the right amount of time, around 10 minutes. One of my big worries going into this PPV was that the matches would be short or not very good, but this allayed my concerns. Looking at it "star rating" wise, I would give this match 2.5 stars, which is decent. Nick Aldis/James Storm Promo This was a good segment to hype the Main Event. Nick Aldis has been doing an excellent job portraying the classic champion who thinks he is carrying the entire NWA on his back. This promo and the pre-taped packages on this show really demonstrated what a solid interview Nick Aldis is. Either he has gotten noticeably better, or he never got a fair chance to show what he could do when he was "Magnus" in TNA. Thunder Rosa vs. Tasha Steelz The NWA is obviously trying to beef up their Women's Division, which is good. Steelz cut a decent promo before the match, and the match itself was solid if unremarkable. I think Thunder Rosa is probably the best female talent in the NWA right now in terms of the overall package - mic work, ring skills and overall look, so the right person went over but Steelz got in enough offense to still look good. This match did exactly what it was supposed to go, introduced Steelz and made her look good while establishing that Thunder Rosa is one of the top names in the NWA. During this match, I couldn't help but think about the Big Swole vs. Emi Sakura match on AEW Dynamite this past week, which I was pretty sure was never going to end. Actually, I ended up tapping out and changing the channel during that match, so for all I know it might still be going. In contrast, this match demonstrated to me that you can accomplish what you need to during a match - including introducing a new character - without taking over 10 minutes to do it. After the match, Thunder Rosa got into a confrontation with Ashley Vox and ended up slapping on an armbar which looked totally legit and made me cringe. She bent that girl's arm in way I believe arms were not meant to bend. As I said, this match and the post-match angle went a long way in establishing Thunder Rosa. I'd give the match about 2 stars, which is decent. The Question Mark vs. Trevor Murdoch I am somewhat conflicted about this match and the whole Question Mark deal in general. Aron Stevens is heavily involved in the Question Mark angle and I always have time for him. I don't mind comedy in my Pro Wrestling, provided that it's actually funny. In my opinion, since coming to the NWA Stevens has been consistently entertaining. I can understand how his goofy form of comedy might not be for everybody, I get that. However, if Pro Wrestling can find room for a guy that throws people around with his dick and matches with Invisible Men, then there should be plenty of room for Aron Stevens. I don't see a huge difference between the Aron Stevens/Question Mark stuff and the goofy stuff Orange Cassidy has been doing in AEW since Dynamite debuted. I have managed to see the humor in Orange Cassidy, so it would be stupid to criticize Aron Stevens and The Question Mark. Comedy is a part of Pro Wrestling, I get that. Aron Stevens coming to the ring in a Gi and holding the Mongrovian Flag while Stu Bennett claimed that in the past three weeks, Stevens had become a third degree blackbelt in Mongrovian Karate did crack me up. The Mongrovian flag and National Anthem also made me laugh out loud as well. Here's where I was conflicted...of all people there is no damn way that Trevor Murdoch should have been involved in this stuff. He especially shouldn't have been jobbing to The Question Mark. I saw an interview with Billy Corgan and Dave Lagana this past week where they said that the response to some things on Power had caught them by surprise and caused them to change direction unexpectedly...and they were clearly talking about the reception to The Question Mark. The fans in the GPB studios have adopted The Question Mark kind of like the old ECW Arena fans adopted J.T. Smith. Cool, I get that. The difference is, Paul Heyman didn't respond to that by having J.T. Smith beat The Sandman in a competitive match. Nick Aldis has been saying in a couple of recent interviews that Trevor Murdoch has really opened some eyes in the NWA about how good he still is...so they clearly know they have something with the guy. So there is really no excuse for having him lose to a comedy character. This was what it was, a short, moderately competitive match between a comedy character and a legit Pro Wrestler. When that happens, the Pro Wrestler should go over, I don't care how popular the comedy guy is. Trevor Murdoch has been nothing short of awesome in the NWA so far, and they need to get him far away from this stuff and do more with him, ASAP. If they don't, then they're idiots. For having Murdoch lose, I rate this match as a DUD. NWA World Tag Team Championship Match: The Rock & Roll Express vs. The Wild Cards Speaking of stupid crap which shouldn't be happening... Ugh. I've said before and I'll say again...I respect the hell out of the Rock & Roll Express, but there is no way in hell they should be the NWA World Tag Team Champions and taking up a spot on this PPV. Almost worse than that, they have fucking Eddie Kingston and Homicide there and working as corner men? What a waste. I also came to a conclusion during this match about The Wild Cards and that is that Royce Isaacs kind of sucks. I really think he's the reason that his team doesn't have better matches. Bram is perfectly capable of having good matches, but Isaacs can't hold up his end of the deal...and being in the there with a couple of Senior Citizens ain't helping him any. The parts of this match with Lattimer were okay, but Isaacs's offense looks like shit and he screwed up a couple of really basic spots where he was supposed to be getting his signals crossed with Lattimer. I can't believe Ricky Morton did a suicide dive between the ropes at his age. This match was pretty weak. At least it was only around 5 minutes. I can't believe the Rock & Rolls retained. I really hope they don't make it out of the next set of Power tapings with those belts. The NWA also needs to grab a couple more Tag Teams (who are younger than 120 years combined age) ASAP. This was a 1 star match, and I'm probably being generous. Announcement The NWA is returning to PPV on January 24, 2020 and the NWA is bringing back the World Television Championship. Stu Bennett displayed the title belt, and it is the classic NWA TV title from the JCP era that Arn made famous, so that is awesome. From the way they worded this announcement, I am not sure if the PPV itself is going to be a tournament to fill the TV title, or if the PPV will feature the finals of a tournament, or what...but seeing as how they were announced together I did get the impression that the two announcements are linked. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm not sure the NWA roster as it stands right now is big enough to sustain three singles championships, but as an old school fan it sure is cool to see that TV belt again. As I mentioned above, I have been checking out most of the interviews that Corgan and Lagana have been doing leading up to this PPV, and based on stuff they have been saying, and other stuff I have read online, I think I understand why the NWA is doing another PPV so soon. They were pretty upfront going into the launch of Power on YouTube that they didn't think a YouTube show was going to be financially viable for them long term. I think originally they were planning on going the traditional route and getting a TV deal and then doing quarterly Pay Per Views, etc. However, they are saying they were totally caught off guard by the response to Power. Similarly they have apparently been pretty surprised about the response to this PPV. There are reports that the pre-sales for Into The Fire actually exceeded the number of buys they had projected for the PPV overall. Billy Corgan has said that considering the current level of interest and fan support for the NWA, their current business model of two days of TV tapings every other month followed by a PPV might actually be sustainable long term. The fact that they have gone ahead and announced the next show for next month seems to bear that theory out. That means they can't afford to lose any more viewers for Power and they have to keep selling Pay Per Views though, so I guess the onus is on them to make this work. Eli Drake Promo...Mr. Anderson attacks Drake comes out and cuts a decent promo which I was hoping would hint at his next angle or title aspirations...until Mr. Anderson appears and attacks him. So I guess this feud isn't over, and I'm not so hyped about that. Here's what strikes me as weird...Eli Drake attacked Anderson a couple of weeks ago from behind with that metal turnbuckle wrench thing. Total heel move, and the announcers were playing up how brutal it was during Anderson's match earlier. However the fans are cheering for Drake now, and Anderson's attack here comes across as a total heel move and the fans are giving him shit while he's doing it. There is no clear babyface/heel dynamic in this feud. Maybe the NWA roster is so small they don't want to paint guys into one role and then have to do turns for every new angle. I'm not crazy about this feud continuing, but credit where it's due...this attack was really well done by Anderson and sold really well by Drake. And huge props to Stu Bennett as well, he did a great job of putting this whole deal over. Melina & Marti Belle vs. Alyson Kaye & ODB I still don't get why they didn't just have Alyson Kaye defend her title on this PPV, but whatever. So anyhow...this match sucked. Melina is awful, and has no business in the ring if this is the best she can do. Bless Marti Belle for trying, but as somebody said elsewhere (I think it was @rovert) she wrestles like she has two left feet. Alyson Kaye is very good, and ODB did fine...but they didn't have much to work with. I was going to say this match was too long, but I think that just might be because it wasn't any good. DUD. For the NWA National Championship: Colt Cabana (c) vs. Ricky Starks vs. Aron Stevens I was surprised by this match. I wasn't expecting all that much from it and it was pretty damn good. Aron Stevens has the whole cowardly heel act down to a science at this point. The part of the match where he bailed out and hid behind the Christmas Tree was pretty damn funny, as was his hiding underneath the tarp by the production equipment. I recently heard Arn Anderson say that in Triple Threat Matches you always have to make one guy step aside and sell while the other two fight, and he is right. If you're going to follow that blueprint, you might as well make it entertaining...especially when the end result was Aron Stevens sneaking in and stealing the win and the title in the process. This match was good, especially some of the segments when Starks and Cabana were taking turns beating up Stevens, because his comedic selling was quite good (if you like that sort of thing.) Cabana actually looked really good in this match, as did Starks. Fun match. I'd go 3 stars for this one. Tim Storm Promo This guy is such a terrific old school babyface. He just has natural "good guy" charisma. I know a lot of people claim the "Mama Storm" stuff is cheesy, and it is...but keep in mind that Tim Storm used the line "Mama Storm still loves me" as a throw away line during a promo and it was the fans that jumped on it and started chanting her name. Hell, the guy is reportedly selling a good number of Mama Storm T-shirts. Like it or not, the whole thing is popular. I am really hoping we get to see Tim Storm challenge Aron Stevens for the National Championship, because that would be a really fun case of an old school babyface vs. heel rivalry. Main Event for the NWA World Heavyweight Championship (Best 2 out of 3 falls) Nick Aldis (c) vs. James Storm I don't ever remember seeing a 2 out of 3 falls match where one of the falls wasn't a quick pin. This match was no exception. This did a good job of either resolving or furthering all the storylines leading into the match. James Storm openly speculated during one of his promos that Nick Aldis had been flattering Tim Storm in order to manipulate him into favoring him during the match, but we found out that Tim Storm is still going to be Tim Storm and he was totally fair as the ref in the second and eventually the third fall. Aldis made it clear that he didn't want Kamille out there, but she showed up anyhow and ended up costing him the first fall in the aforementioned quick fall. We don't yet know if that was deliberate, but even if it wasn't we can guarantee that Aldis isn't going to be happy that she didn't listen to him and almost cost him his title in the process. Technically, I thought this was a very good match. The first fall went quickly, and I quite enjoyed the brawling in the second fall...especially how it favored James Storm and you could tell (and the announcers put over) that it wasn't Nick Aldis's game. I loved it when Storm got thrown into the Christmas Tree and Stu Bennett called it "Mongrovian Pine." The third fall had some good in ring action and close calls, culminating in the ref bump and eventual finish. The only thing that would stop me from calling this a great match is that I found James Storm to be a little sloppy. He clearly messed up a few spots during this match. I don't think he was tired either, I think his coordination seemed a little off and he isn't quite as limber as he used to be. It reminded me of Chris Jericho in the sense that once you get to be a certain age and there are things you can't do anymore, you should maybe stop trying to do them and change up your act like Jericho has. It didn't kill the match or anything, but NWA James Storm of 2019 is definitely not the same as TNA James Storm of 2009. All in all, I was satisfied with the match and the resolution of the storylines leading into the match. We know Tim Storm is still a good guy, we know there is trouble with Kamille and Aldis and due to the way the finish went, James Storm is no worse the wear for losing the match. In that respect, it was smartly booked which is not something I have been saying about the NWA up to this point. I'd say this was a 3.5 star match, which is very good. As far as the angle after the match, that was a definite "Holy Shit" moment when Marty Scurll made his entrance. I know people had pretty much been speculating about whether he'd show up in NXT (or maybe even on the WWE's so-called "main roster") back in Japan, or AEW. As far as I know, nobody was seriously predicting him coming to the NWA. There is no way you can possibly look at this other than it being a huge signing for the NWA. I have seen some AEW fans freaking out online today, saying they can't believe Marty Scurll would go to the stupid NWA instead of AEW. I think they might be getting ahead of themselves. As I said earlier, working in the NWA requires you to work a whopping 3 days every 2 months. It's not exactly the WWF schedule from the 1980's. This means he can work other places, Japan especially. Not to mention, AEW has a great relationship with the NWA. AEW Dark helped NWA Power become so popular, and of course the two companies already worked closely together at All In. If MJF can work in MLW and AEW at the same time, I'm sure Scurll can work in the NWA and AEW at the same time...especially since the combined schedule of the two is still way better than working for WWE. Overall This show was not without it's flaws, for sure. The Question Mark beating Trevor Murdoch was ridiculous, as is The Rock & Roll Express still being the Tag Team Champions. The women's tag match was awful. However, I thought the opener was solid and the last two matches were very good. The announcing was excellent and the overall aesthetic of the show was decent for their first major PPV since Power debuted. I personally had some problems with my stream stalling and getting only audio, but I'm pretty sure that's more because of my crappy laptop than it was the NWA or Fite TV. Next time, I will trying using my XBOX One to stream Fite and see if that improves the video quality. Bottom line is, this show only cost me $20.00 so it was definitely worth it. One thing I loved is that the show was only around 2.5 hours long so it wasn't a chore to get through. Even the stuff I didn't like didn't drag on forever. That's a big change from the stuff I've been seeing on Wednesday Nights from both AEW and NXT, where everything has to be epic and overlong. In my opinion, there was more good than bad on this show. I'm glad I ordered it and I am excited about the potential cycle of 6-8 weeks of Power leading into a fairly priced PPV from this point forward - especially since the NWA has said they are going to continue to introduce new talent (something they certainly did with this show.) This was hardly an epic show, but it was good. More importantly, it was fun.
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    NWA Powerrr

    If Meltzer is to be believed, Harper is bound by his no-compete clause until March 2020. The one area where the NWA might actually have an advantage and end up having some success in getting talent, is their schedule. That can be a huge selling point to Pro Wrestlers who still want to be Pro Wrestlers but only work a very limited schedule, because they have other business interests, jobs, commitments or whatever. They literally only have to work three days every two months, the two days of tapings which cover 8 weeks of TV, and then the PPV. For people like ODB, Stu Bennett, Ken Anderson, Trevor Murdoch and Aron Stevens who were all more or less out of the business...that's a great deal. They pretty much get to have their cake and eat it too. That was one of the main reasons Cornette originally took the job as well.
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    WWE TV 12/09 - 18/09 Cruzeiro got relegated! Fuck them!

    If it wasn't for YouTube and Larry Csonka's recaps I'd have no idea what was happening on either Raw or Smackdown. I gave up on Raw ages ago and I was able to sit through exactly one episode of Smackdown on Fox before I gave up.
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    The Arn Anderson podcast

    Thanks for letting me know, I am going to try and check that out today. I usually catch Cornette's Drive-Thru and Sean Oliver's podcast every week, then after that I try to find time for Grilling JR, then Arn and if I am interested in the topic that week, The Jim Cornette Experience. Unfortunately, most weeks I only have time for the Drive-Thru and Oliver's podcast, because they are usually only around an hour. Maybe I need to move Arn up in the rotation, considering the feedback in this thread. It sounds like I am missing some good stuff.
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    The Arn Anderson podcast

    I am way behind on Arn's podcast. In which episode did he discuss his last 4-5 years in WWE? Is it the most recent one?
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    All Elite Wrestling

    I might think Joey Janela sucks, but sounds like Big Cass dislikes him a lot more than even I do.
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    NWA Powerrr

    I checked out Eddie Kingston's Twitter page and over the past couple of days he has re-tweeted the announcement from the NWA hyping up the good pre-sales for Into the Fire and a hype video for the PPV originally posted by the NWA. That would seem to indicate that he's still involved, hopefully. Then I looked for Homicide's Twitter account and discovered he hadn't tweeted since 2017.
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    2019 Match of the Year

    If I am being 100% honest and self-critical, I have discovered that I sometimes tend to overrate matches that end up surprising me. If I go into a match thinking it's going to be really good, at times I almost set my expectations too high and end up disappointed. Going into WALTER/Bate I really didn't much care for WALTER and though Bate was pretty good (I liked those matches he had with Dunne) but I certainly wasn't expecting all that much from the match. I felt it ended up over-delivering and I came out of that match almost surprised at how good it was. I pimped it to a number of people, and ended up watching it a second time to make sure that I wasn't just over-praising it because I had expected it to be average at best. I found it really held up and I enjoyed it as much the second time. As I mentioned at the time, I almost got a 90's AJPW vibe from the match, and since I am such a huge fan of that era that is probably why it really grabbed me. I have seen next to no NJPW from this year as I said, but I'd like to see that Ospreay/Okada match from the G1 that you and @Tenese Sarwieh mentioned.
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    NWA Powerrr

    I am actually going to try and check that show out. I think Nick Aldis (my close personal friend who liked my tweet) defends the World Championship against Marty Scrull on that show as well.
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    NWA Powerrr

    I haven't actually seen the entire Crockett Cup tournament from this past year, which is where The Wild Cards ended up forming. I've been meaning to check that show out for the longest time but haven't. I think the Briscoes actually fight the Rock and Roll Express on that show, if I'm not mistaken.
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    2019 Match of the Year

    Damn, @Tenese Sarwieh that is a great list...very comprehensive. Thanks for posting that, there are a few recommendations on there I am definitely going to check out now. I hope to come up with a list of my own at some point over the next couple of weeks. Problem is, I don't really watch any stuff from Japan anymore so I know my list will have gaps. At least with the recommendations from this thread, I will know the best matches to seek out.
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    NWA Powerrr

    The Rock n' Roll Express are defending against The Wild Cards at the PPV. I can only assume (and hope and pray) that The Wild Cards are going to regain the titles. I have no issue with the NWA using the RnR's as a novelty for their name value, but not as the champs. Hell, they could have fought the Dawsons in the opener and beat them and I doubt anybody would have complained. I'm not as down on The Wild Cards as most seem to be (although I think Bram is by far the more talented of the two) and I'd have much rather seen them fight Kingston and Homicide. I agree that Homicide looked like the didn't want to be there. That's the problem with taping two months of TV in two days...if a guy is having one bad night, he ends up looking bad on an entire month's worth of television.
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    All Elite Wrestling

    I have mixed feelings on that. I don't disagree with you that bumping is by far his best skill, but at the same time I don't want to see the guy seriously injure himself trying to get over on a big stage, which is what is likely to happen. That's why I've been harping on about his lack of basic skills. The career expectancy for somebody who is primarily known for doing nothing but insane spots and big bumps is not very long. As I said in my previous post, Mick Foley was actually an accomplished Pro Wrestler, and he cut his career drastically short and even endangered his life by taking stupid risks and insane bumps. I've seen Foley say on more than one occasion that he found it sadly ironic that by the end of his career he was getting just a big of a crowd reaction by pulling a sock out of his pants or saying the name of the town he was in and giving a cheesy grin and a thumbs up, as he did falling off stuff. Even though I don't enjoy his work at all, I wouldn't want to see Janela put his body at risk just to try and make himself a star on a national level. Another one of the things Foley has gone about is his body, he was heavier, had lots of padding and a wide back which was good for bumping and helped him absorb punishment. Joey Janela is so small, he looks like a serious injury waiting to happen.
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