Timbo Slice

No chance he makes my Top 100. Never saw him in the best guy in any of the matches he was in that were considered great.

Probably a Top 10 guy for me. If not there, Top 20. To me, I can't think of anyone else who personified lucha libre. He's always a treat to watch, even with him not showing up as much on tape in his later years. Wouldn't be surprised if someone put him #1.

Trying to be a "best in the world" gimmick and living up to it is pretty stupid in the first place, so deducting points because he wasn't what he said he was, when there's been plenty of guys throughout the history of wrestling, is pretty dumb. I'll deduct points for coasting and only performing in big spots, but when he performed in big spots, there were few better, so you have to figure out if his big matches really meant much in the long run, I guess. I don't know if I could keep him off my Top 100, but I wouldn't be surprised.

Can't see it, sadly. Definitely a cool wrestler, but he wasn't someone I'd consider for this.

Ohtani has one of the best stretches a junior ever had from December 1995 to February 1997. I'd actually hear arguments that the Sammy match (1/21/96), the two Lyger matches and the Ultimo match (8/20/96) are the four best junior matches ever. He'll be in my Top 50-75.

Top 50-75 guy for me, but he's dynamic enough where if I'm making my list and all of a sudden I see him amongst a group of guys on a similar level that he'll get the nod above due to how he performs in big matches.

Him, Funk, Lawler, and Hansen are the guys I'm considering for #1 overall. I've always leaned Flair, so it's gonna be hard for me to see him knocked off the top spot.

He's been in some great matches, but he's the definition of someone who's a good hand and that's about it. Will fall outside my Top 100.

While Hogan/Andre is the pinnacle of big match WWE wrestling, I'm not sure Hogan is a better big match worker than Cena. Completely fungible, good talker, knows when to step it up, a smart worker...I don't see him falling anywhere outside of the Top 25 for me.

The guy who I can't wait to watch more of. Digging into some PWFG stuff right now, and I can hear arguments for #1 overall all the way to him being off the ballot. From what I've seen, the most unique wrestler in the proceedings, some of the greatest facial expressions in history and one of the best workers I've seen. Need to see more to see just how high I can put him, though.

Easy Top 25, maybe Top 10. One of my favorite workers to watch in his heyday.

3/17/00 vs. Atlantis is my favorite lucha match of all time, bar none. I know there are probably better matches out there, but it's just incredible on so many levels. Best lucha de apuestra worker ever?

Always saw him as the #4 guy in the Pillars. I will put him below Taue on my ballot. The one thing I will say about him is that his two-year run as GHC champ is one of the best championship reigns ever, working against a wide variety of opponents in such a way that he made every match feel big, even against guys like Awesome. He also benefits from being one of those guys that was highly visible in both the tape-trading period and the video-based internet boom which saw a lot of his big NOAH matches widely available on YouTube almost right away when it was still the "wild west" in some ways. That being said, probably not a better big-match worker outside of Hashimoto in Japanese history. I'll have him high on my list.

Won't consider him for a Top 100. Great talker, but his work never did much for me. He seemed like someone who could work up to a better worker in a match, but I didn't see him as the best guy in his best matches.

Matt, his run in 1996 is probably a good starting point. His older stuff is good, too, but he shines in 1996.

His indy stuff holds up well against a lot of his contemporaries (Punk and Hero for sure, maybe even Joe) and while he doesn't have the big match resume a lot of the guys that will be considered above him do, I'm not sure there's been a better worker since his career began. Top 100 for sure, probably Top 50-75.

One of the best aces ever. Knew how to work against a wide variety of opponents, and even though it would become the Lyger Show at times, it was still very appealing because he brought the best out of whoever he faced and they stepped up to his level. Kanemoto, Sammy, Ohtani, Pillman, and countless others have a lot to owe to Lyger. I've lessened on his matches over the years, but I don't see how he falls outside of my Top 25.

Top 50 for sure. Work is too good in my eyes. To answer Matt's question about working for the crowd, the answer is that there's a larger number of people who hate the style Davey represents. Joshi crowds went toward the Toyota style because it was exciting, so Aja, who worked the "better" style that people like Kansai, Hokuto and Bull worked had to adapt to what the crowd wanted to keep up. That's why many people saw the 6/6/97 Kawada/Misawa match as a turning point for AJPW's style due to what Kobashi did. In many ways, Aja's style died with the rise of Toyota. She just did what she could to keep up.

Easy Top 10, probably Top 5 with consideration for #1. Might have been the best wrestler on the planet in 1993, which I consider the greatest year in pro wrestling history.

Athleticism has always meant jack shit in wrestling. 80% of pro wrestling today is athleticism and it's pretty bad, so I don't get the argument on Lawler having a handicap for not being "athletic." Legit #1 candidate. Body of work, in-ring style, promos, style that doesn't get old, one of the best carriers I've ever seen, great matches with basically every wrestler in U.S in a 20+ year span.

Top flight tag worker, good singles worker. Work-first guy. He'll be on my cutline.

Top 10 automatic. Not sure about Top 5. I've grown to like him more than Kawada over the years because of his match layout, subdued selling, stretch runs, attention to detail.

Akiyama and Taue as sidekicks are interesting considering Kobashi as the #1 sidekick ever has catapulted him into the GOAT convo when he's not nearly as good as Akiyama or Taue. I have him as a clear Top 50, possibly Top 25.

Shittyness of games has nothing to do with it. It's an easy win for NFL on a Thursday night. SmackDown! moving to Thursdays doesn't make sense. Its ratings are nowhere near the Thursday night games.

They can do both. No reason at all not to put the old stuff on there. The original stuff has been really non-existent save a couple features.