
Boondocks Kernoodle
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I for one would prefer not to see shitting matches on DVD.
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Has a woman ever done a bladejob in WWE? I think it's the kind of thing that could get heat every couple of years if done right. I remember the accidental blood in the angle where Mickie beat up Trish and then kissed her in the ring - it really added to the B-movie psychological thriller atmosphere. In a really heated feud between two women, the rare bladejob could be incredibly effective. I understand WWE's hesitancy to cross that line, plus you wouldn't want to leave a scar on a WWE Diva's forehead. And also, there hasn't been a really heated women's feud since Trish-Mickie. But it is something to think about.
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(This is a really sensitive subject, especially on this board, because it's full of dudes waiting to call you out on being a misogynist psycho, fairly or unfairly. So maybe I shouldn't say this, but...) There was a thread about a year or so ago on TSM which asked "Is violence on women OK if the woman is a hated heel?" To me, it's the other way around. If a heel hits a woman, then I don't have a problem with it, as long as it's the kind of serious heel who is portrayed as being cold and unfeeling. If it was a goofy heel like WCW Jericho I'd feel differently. But stuff like Orton giving Stacy the RKO, that was really effective. Because Orton's character is that of a total piece of shit. I don't ever like when a face hits a woman, dating back to when the Pitbulls and Dreamer would beat up Beulah in ECW. (And then Beulah became his valet after nine straight months of him beating the fuck out of her, and the crowd cheered! Ugh.) Especially the oft-mentioned Austin stunner on Stacy, which is as disturbing for what we know about Austin in real life as it was for its exemplifying the bizarre on-screen moral code of WWE storyline canon. I think the worst was that storyline in 2000 with Trish and Bubba Ray. We're supposed to cheer Bubba because he's a sociopath obsessed with powerbombing a woman through a table? And Trish is evil because she's "teasing him"? (Granted, her behavior might have lessened the punishment against Bubba were the case to be taken to court. The fact that she videotaped herself begging to be put through a table while wearing lingerie might have led the court to reduce some of the assault charges, or at best convince them that the two of them were playing a bizarre sex game.) You know what the worst thing is? That shit turned him face! He was a bad guy until he became fixated on using a woman's body to break a table. (To be fair, he had done this many times before. But this was a "bad" woman, supposedly, although her actions weren't markedly different from those good women (Terri Runnels, B.B.; I'll go out on a limb and say that Trish and Mae Young probably are a bit dissimilar.) Maybe she was evil because she wore a cowboy hat?) Man, when Jake slapped Elizabeth he barely touched her and it got mega-heat. Where does the time go?
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I'll have to think most of these over. But I'll tell you one thing: I'm picking Kevin Nash for most improved. Seriously.
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I think he stole that from Rick Scaia, actually.
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He must have invented SOMETHING over the years!
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I think "Owen Voice" is a Scott Keith creation.
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Actually it was more of a cartoonish gasp.
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Re: Benoit/The Dicks, a quick search of TSM reveals a couple of newsbits:
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Is this match available on YouTube or thereabouts?
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Of course if you arbitrarily consider the end of the nWo angle to have coincided with the end of WCW's ratings dominance then any claim that the nWo angle killed WCW would seem stupid. Most people who watched WCW in '98 would NOT consider the nWo storyline to have ended there, not when the biggest storyline in the company from April until November when Hogan temporarily retired involved Nash's nWo feuding with Hulk's nWo, and then for the first few months of '99 it was the reunited group feuding with WCW again, and then at the end of the year it was a new nWo declaring war on WCW. Uh, they kinda were. WCW was doing OK before the nWo came along. The Savage-Flair feud had reignited house show business and through some "creative bookkeeping" they were able to show an on-paper profit. The nWo success caused Bischoff to become cocky (well, he always was, but this made him TOO cocky) and complacent. I think on occasion Meltzer has said that if WCW hadn't signed Hogan, they never would have become big, and they'd probably still be around today. I don't necessarily agree with that (especially the latter). The bottom line is that they couldn't keep the momentum going. -
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Because he wasn't there. They may have just needed a dude who has been there for a while to give the WWE party line and they figured, "who's going to know Bruce wasn't here in '84?" Like when they the Best of Wrestlemania special before WM18 and they had Sgt. Slaughter give the behind-the-scenes perspective on Hogan-Andre at the Silverdome. -
From the WOL episodes I've listened to from that period, it seems HBK was supposed to have Austin's spot in that tag match at Backlash, teaming with HHH vs Taker & Kane. Where that would leave the new champion, Austin, I don't know. But he was supposed to come back with HHH and he was going to wrestle, but obviously didn't. I think. I swear Dave said that. I don't know. I hope it's in an old F4W. EDIT: Wait, no. Keith was wrong. It was supposed to be HHH-Shawn for Backlash.
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The greatest things ever written on wrestling message boards
Boondocks Kernoodle replied to Bix's topic in Megathread archive
Stupak is the guy who wrote Ring of Hell. -
The greatest things ever written on wrestling message boards
Boondocks Kernoodle replied to Bix's topic in Megathread archive
I think in every multiple man title match in ECW, the champ got pinned first. -
The greatest things ever written on wrestling message boards
Boondocks Kernoodle replied to Bix's topic in Megathread archive
Didn't Heyman have a really big hand in the D2D show? Wasn't his plan to have Lashley celebrate for 20 minutes after winning? As for Heyman coming back, Lagana and Prichard may be gone, but the number one Heyman hater, Steph, will never lose power. You never know what Vince will do, but I'd bet against it. Who even knows if Heyman would want to come back? -
The greatest things ever written on wrestling message boards
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That Punk thing turned to out to be wrong. I think he was still right about Joe. Bix, was it you or Cook who once said that "Stupak" told you that Vince went crazy in a writer's meeting once over the internet's (I assume that's his code word for Meltzer) praising of Joe and vowed to hire and bury him? Besides which, despite all the claims (which are really just speculation) by fans on boards, Joe never would have been given the Umaga role. He's not big enough, they say he couldn't work, and his services don't fall under Vince's inscrutable lifelong commitment to hiring Afa's relatives. -
"Ms. McMahon, every WWE Entertainer is gunning to be the next contender to John Cena's championship. Have you decided on who will receive the next shot?" "Oh, you know, all of 'em." "Um, can you be more specific?" "Well, y'know Todd, there are many great WWE Entertainers, and just, anyone who shows that they have the drive and the passion to be the contender to the World Heavyweight Championship, I think that's who's going to be the number one contender." "Will it be Randy Orton? Chris Jericho? Kane?" "Just, anyone who has that drive, y'know?"
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And another thing, and this is sad to say, but Re: that "what a gay bitch" comment, how many wrestlers could you see making that exact same comment? A fucking lot, if you ask me. And obviously, there's something wrong with someone who thinks like that, but if I heard a wrestler call a crying dude a "gay bitch,"* I'd just see it as a manifestation of the homophobia and alpha male syndrome that's so prevalent in wrestling, not as Family Murderer Warning Signs. *Before the murders, I mean. If I heard it now, it'd likely set off some bells that a wrestler was quoting Benoit.