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Not sure if it's turned up yet but it happened and aired on this date. Talk about it here.

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From the Cornette Dumpster tapes. About a 10-minute clip with both wearing red. Talk about it here.

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I get that. It's just that it seems like the next PPV should have a title defense and it also seems like it should have a Shield match. But anytime a Shield match is on a big show, that's two title matches they can't have unless Rollins is going to drop the IC title again. Not the worst problem to have at all, just saying I'm curious how they navigate it. It's why anytime there was a DX reunion, they always made sure HHH wasn't champion.

The only issue is I'm not sure how they do all the matches on the table with The Shield, Reigns as Universal champ, and Rollins as IC champ all at the same time, unless they wrestle multiple times on each big show. Curious how they'll do it.

I feel like they know where they ultimately want to go with him (maybe?), but aren't sure how to fill the time. What I think might have been a miscalculation is doing another long build to him getting back to the top. Maybe in hindsight they should have put him in the main event of the first post-WM PPV against AJ Styles and never looked back. Still, DB is the type that to me is always one week away from being the hottest star in the company. Until then, I think it's ok that he's sort of like mid-80s Jimmy Valiant -- the midcard draw.

If anyone is interested, I put together a YouTube playlist of the entire 2000 feud with Atlantis as it played out on television, along with links to discussion of all of those matches here at PWO:

He might not remember that he said it, yeah. But he did pitch Steve-o-mania running wild ... literally. Austin was also the guy who thought being the "sheriff" of RAW was an awesome idea. Some wrestlers aren't meant to be bookers, I suppose.

In light of the sad passing of wrestling legend Villano III, we thought it might be a good idea to put together a YouTube playlist that shows the buildup and fallout from the most famous match of his career: the mask match against Atlantis from March 17, 2000. We have curated this playlist for you and hope you enjoy it. Last year, a group of us walked through the week-to-week TV of this feud. The matches, all of which are on the above-linked playlist, are also listed below with links to their respective discussion threads at PWO. We hope you'll check out the matches and chime in with your thoughts as we celebrate the life and career of Villano III. Villano III, Dr. Wagner Jr. & Pierroth Jr. vs Atlantis, Negro Casas & Mr. Niebla Jr. (01-14-00) Villano III, Dr. Wagner Jr. & Shocker vs Atlantis, Mr. Niebla & Emilio Charles Jr. (01-21-00) Villano III, Bestia Salvaje & Fuerza Guerrera vs Atlantis, Emilio Charles Jr. & Negro Casas (01-28-00) Villano III, El Satanico & Fuerza Guerrera vs Atlantis, Emilio Charles Jr. & Tarzan Boy (02-01-00) Villano III vs Atlantis (02-11-00) Villano III & Atlantis vs El Satanico & Tarzan Boy - Parejas Increibles (02-18-00) Atlantis, Mr. Niebla & Rayo de Jalisco Jr. vs Dr. Wagner Jr., Bestia Salvaje & Scorpio Jr. (02-25-00) Atlantis, Tarzan Boy & Rayo de Jalisco Jr. vs El Satanico, Cien Caras & Bestia Salvaje (03-03-00) Villano III, Shocker, Bestia Salvaje & Scorpio Jr. vs Atlantis, Perro Aguayo, Mr. Niebla & Rayo de Jalisco Jr. (03-10-00) Villano III vs Atlantis - Mask vs Mask (03-17-00) Villano III, Shocker & Bestia Salvaje vs Atlantis, Perro Aguayo & Rayo de Jalisco Jr. (03-24-00) Villano III, Shocker & Bestia Salvaje vs Atlantis, Perro Aguayo & Rayo de Jalisco Jr. (03-31-00) Villano III, Fuerza Guerrera & Gran Markus Jr. vs Atlantis, Brazo de Plata & Rayo de Jalisco Jr. (04-04-00) Villano III, Pierroth Jr. & Fuerza Guerrera vs Atlantis, Negro Casas & Rayo de Jalisco Jr. (04-14-00) Villano III, Atlantis & Mascara Ano 2000 vs Mascara Ano 2000, Pierroth Jr. & Shocker (04-28-00) UPDATE: A little bird pointed me to the one missing match from the series, which was on 02-18-00 when Villano III and Atlantis teamed in a Parejas Increibles match against El Satanico and Tarzan Boy. It's been added both to the playlist and the list above.

Dave said on Twitter a few days ago that people shouldn't draw that conclusion because lots of guys do this while injured.

Dramatic Dream Team Road to Ryogoku on DDT Universe Aired August 21, 2018 (Taped August 18, 2018) Nagoya, Japan No review yet. T2Hide (Kazuki Hirata, Sanshiro Takagi & Toru Owashi) vs Alex Ace, KUDO & Nobuhiro Shimatani DAMNATION (Mad Paulie & Soma Takao) vs Keisuke Ishii vs Yuki Ueno Keisuke Okuda vs Yuki Iino Kazusada Higuchi, Masahiro Takanashi & Mizuki vs Akito, Cherry & Makoto Oishi Antonio Honda vs Konaka RENEGADES (Jason Kincaid, Ryan Davidson & Shigehiro Irie) vs HARASHIMA, Kouki Iwasaki & Yukio Sakaguchi DAMNATION (Daisuke Sasaki & Tetsuya Endo) vs MAO & Mike Bailey Bold matches are PWO recommended.

Tokyo Joshi Pro Go Ahead Hot Guys In Nagoya on DDT Universe Aired August 21, 2018 (Taped August 18, 2018) Nagoya, Japan No review yet. Hyper Misao vs Raku Maki Ito, Miu & Reika Saiki vs Mizuki, Yuka Sakazaki & Yuki Aino Priscilla Kelly vs Yuki Kamifuku Shoko Nakajima vs Hinano vs Yuna Manase Sakisama vs Hikari Nodoka-Oneesan & Yuu vs Azusa Takigawa & Miyu Yamashita Bold matches are PWO recommended.

BJW & Masahito Kakihara Produce on Samurai TV Aired August 21, 2018 (Taped August 14, 2018) Tokyo, Japan No review yet. Hayate & Miyama Kamen II vs Gabai Ji-chan & Tetsuya Nakazato Jun Kasai & Mitsuya Nagai vs Kazuhiro Tamura & Takayuki Ueki Kick Rules: Takuya Nomura vs Takafumi Ito Hideki Suzuki vs Daisuke Nakamura Kenichi Yamamoto & Tatsuo Nakano vs Hikaru Sato & Rocky Kawamura Yoshiaki Fujiwara vs Takaku Fuke Minoru Suzuki vs Masahito Kakihara Bold matches are PWO recommended.

Ice Ribbon on Niconico.jp Aired August 21, 2018 (Taped August 5, 2018) Tokyo, Japan No review yet. Asahi & Satsuki Totoro vs Giulia & Ibuki Hoshi Hiragi Kurumi & Matsuya Uno vs Mio Momono & Tequila Saya Aja Kong vs Tsukushi Makoto & Miyako Matsumoto vs Akane Fujita & Risa Sera Hamuko Hoshi, Maya Yukihi & Mochi Miyagi vs Kyuri, Maika Ozaki & Tsukasa Fujimoto Bold matches are PWO recommended.

World Wrestling Entertainment Monday Night RAW #1317 on USA August 20, 2018 Brooklyn, NY No review yet. Bobby Lashley vs Baron Corbin Riott Squad (Liv Morgan, Ruby Riott & Sarah Logan) vs Bayley, Ember Moon & Sasha Banks Dean Ambrose vs Dolph Ziggler Elias vs Curt Hawkins Authors of Pain (Akam & Rezar) vs Titus Worldwide (Titus O'Neil & Apollo Crews) Scott Dawson vs Bo Dallas Dash Wilder vs Curtis Axel WWE Universal Title: Roman Reigns (c) vs Finn Balor Bold matches are PWO recommended.

To me, Roman doing a three-on-one beatdown on the most popular wrestler in the company tells me that even if he didn't turn, he's already a heel. If that won't turn him heel in a way where everyone gets that to be what happened, I can't imagine anything else they could do to actually turn him. I say that agreeing with Matt that this could all mean nothing in a month.

Numbers advantages don't go to babyfaces.