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After the commercial break, Richard Lee demands ANOTHER rematch. Eddie Marlin says no way. "You either get 'em out here, or I'm calling the police." Funny line. Lawler says here's their offer -- take it or leave it. Another match at Mid South Coliseum, but if the Moondogs lose, Eddie Marlin gets to shave Lee's hair.
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Really short match, but great action. I still like this feud, but because it has stretched out so long, it's gone from being something special to just another feud. Lawler and Jarrett win and take the $5000 from Richard Lee and are also still champs.
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Not much to this, just explaining that the match will probably spill all over the place later in the show.
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From the 6/29 MSC show. They really just show the pinfall of Jarrett and Lawler winning the USWA tag titles. The match was only five minutes long anyway, so I wish they had just shown the whole thing. Post match, the Moondogs beat up Jerry Lawler and they bump for him like he's half the age he is. He even gets in shots on Lawler and Jarrett because he's not paying attention. They announce that Lawler and Jarrett will be defending the belts in a rematch on today's TV, which tells me they're wanting to heat this feud up again after letting it take a slight back seat for a little while. Richard Lee put up $5,000 for them to do the match today on TV instead of waiting until Monday night. I smell an angle.
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Razor's shirt has the wow factor. Here, he takes fruit from a stand and dares the guy running the stand to have a problem with it.
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They recap the Nailz attack on the Big Boss Man, and Gene does a phone interview with him. They show pretty hardcore pictures of Boss Man looking beat up.
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The Can-Ams are in masks! I didn't expect that. Furnas and Kroffat seem to be trying really hard to not work stiff. Not really a great match, but lots of good exchanges. Anti-climatic finish, and while the action was good, it never really felt like a match.
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I liked this more than I expected, since AAA has really become my least favorite major promotion of the 90s since watching all the yearbooks. And it's good, but a match featuring these guys in CMLL a few months earlier would have been way better. The match is filled with crowd-pleasing spots, but the rudos don't really come off as much of a threat, and I really hate the Konnan run-in. I do appreciate that Cien Caras still wears masked wrestler-style tights years after losing his mask, because it gets him over as this bitter jerk who just can't let it go. -
The point is, even if they didn't announce it on TV, I think we would know. It would be in the WON, wrestlers would be tweeting thanks for the memories type stuff ... something. Even if they let him just fade away in storyline terms, I just think we would know if it was the end. Undertaker retirement rumors have been happening for at least 10 years, and they are never really founded in anything.
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My pick for Match of the Year at this point. Just a phenomenal match between two pros, wrestled in a great tradition, with both men at their zenith. I think what elevates this match from the pack so much is its universal appeal. While it's absolutely true to lucha libre, it's not as hard to grasp for those who are born and bred on American or Japanese wrestling as some lucha can be at times. The crowd pops when you expect them to pop. The pacing is similar to what you've seen in classic world title matches. The referee's pin counts are slow indeed, but not so slow that they require a parameters shift like you often have to do if you don't watch a lot of this stuff. There are so many basic holds displayed, holds that anyone with semi-competent training could execute, that I'm left wondering why no one has bothered to steal and popularize them. Casas's forced do-the-splits hold on Dandy looked legitimately painful, wasn't difficult to execute, was sold believably and looked great. Dandy's spinning toe hold/bridge combo that won him the second fall has probably been used more commonly in lucha libre than the Casas hold, but it's not like it's a staple move, and it would work in any setting. Again, it is very simple to execute, and in some ways is very clever in its simplicity. And that's what makes this match great. It's filled with mat wrestling that should be a staple of all pro wrestling because it's so logical and easy, yet for whatever reason it's not. To me, this is the wrestling match that you watch and wonder why no one else thought of this stuff. It's possible they did; we only have the footage we have. 70s lucha libre where title matches were a bigger focus may be filled with matches that are even better than this. My instincts tell me that's the case. Never say never, but it's likely we'll never truly know the answer to that. However, at least two of the best wrestlers in history continued the tradition as best they could and gave us a match that was every bit as good as anything else happening anywhere in the world at this point. Plenty of great pro wrestling requires you to accept or ignore some things about the style, the promotion or the culture of which it's a product. The beauty of this is that there isn't that shift. I don't want to say this would look right in place on a UWFI or RINGS card. It wouldn't. I do think the matwork is every bit as sophisticated, believe it or not, but it's not the same style. It would look perfectly in place popping up on an episode of All Japan Classics, or as an NWA world title defense. It would easily engage a crowd at a U.S. indy show. A match that this draws comparisons to in my head is one that I haven't actually seen, but from descriptions, sounds like it's the most similar -- Santo/Casas from 9/97. As I said, I haven't seen it. But I've heard the match described as a shooty match with lots of matwork. As tempted as I am to watch that match now, I'd rather wait until the 1997 Yearbook to make a fair comparison. This isn't a "shooty" match at all, it's just an epic, traditional pro wrestling match. It's unfortunate that the only known copy of this match is grainy as hell, exists from one source and was never really talked up until a few years ago. That in itself serves as a reminder that there is boatloads of great lucha that aired on television that we simply have never seen. Watching this match makes me long for the day that the lucha superfan who recorded and indexed everything from the time he got his first VCR shows up one day and makes his collection available.
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HHH at least allowed Jericho to look like a threat bell-to-bell. Hogan-Kidman was worse. Not that the feud was a particularly good idea that was going to help Kidman in the first place. If Kidman vs a headliner was going to be a program, he would have been better off with DDP or Jarrett.
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Wouldn't they have announced it if this was true?
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* Being brought in with huge hype and a planned huge push that goes away quickly * Losing weight after getting clean and developing depression in the process * Undertaker roughing him up at house show * Developing into a good hand in the ring * Getting released There's a really good blog post somewhere in all of that.
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June: #1 - Rick Rude vs Ricky Steamboat (WCW Beach Blast 06/20/92) ****1/2 #2 - Rick & Scott Steiner vs Steve Williams & Terry Gordy (WCW Clash of the Champions XIX 06/16/92) ****1/2 #3 - Mitsuharu Misawa & Kenta Kobashi vs Jumbo Tsuruta & Akira Taue (AJPW 06/05/92) ****1/4 #4 - Yoshiaki Fujiwara vs Bart Vale (PWFG 06/25/92) ****1/4 #5 - Hiroshi Hase vs Kensuke Sasaki (NJPW 06/26/92) **** #6 - Manami Toyota & Toshiyo Yamada vs Akira Hokuto & Kyoko Inoue (AJW 06/27/92) **** #7 - Stan Hansen vs Toshiaki Kawada (AJPW 06/05/92) **** #8 - Manami Toyota vs Toshiyo Yamada (AJW 06/21/92) ***3/4 #9 - Steve Austin vs Barry Windham (WCW Worldwide 06/13/92) ***1/2 #10 - Barry Windham vs Arn Anderson (WCW Saturday Night 06/06/92) ***1/2 #11 - Jushin Liger vs El Samurai (NJPW 06/26/92) ***1/2 #12 - Aja Kong vs Bison Kimura (AJW 06/21/92) ***1/4 #13 - Sting vs Cactus Jack (WCW Beach Blast 06/20/92) ***1/4 #14 - Jushin Liger & Brian Pillman vs Chris Benoit & Beef Wellington (WCW Clash of the Champions XIX 06/16/92) ***1/4 #15 - Vader & Bam Bam Bigelow vs Rick & Scott Steiner (NJPW 06/26/92) *** #16 - Bret Hart vs Shawn Michaels (WWF Rampage 06/02/92) ***
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Miami will be even more a Rock crowd than anywhere. I agree with the logic and don't think it was a good idea to tease or announce the match. But I think they have no choice but to deliver now, and it would be a horrible move to cancel it. If they're ever going to do a heel turn, Cena going over and doing the turn at Mania is the chance to make it work. If not, it's a tough call, but not so much that they need to cancel the match.
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This is hilarious and awesome at the same time. Both guys are great, underrated talkers and they're having lots of fun. There are some great quotes, but you should watch for yourselves.
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Great promo vowing revenge, which I'm able to focus on most of the time because Lane and his toupee aren't on camera for a lot of it.
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Ron Garvin is a fun promo, even if he's not very good.
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Yet another studio brawl, but this time, Jackie Fargo gets involved! He cleans house with a garbage can.
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To the tune of "I Hate Everything About You" by Ugly Kid Joe.
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Yeah, not much to add to this, except to ask why the WWF makes everyone wear wrestling gear in places like this where they aren't wrestling. Tatanka was in wrestling gear visiting a reservation, and LOD is in wrestling gear visiting the house where they grew up.
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"No, chica. You don't understand. You have something. You have a good time."
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Tatanka visits a reservation and signs autographs. He's not a good speaker.
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Dave said it's very unlikely the match will be cancelled, but just that there are people with power who think the match shouldn't take place.
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The logic is that Rock/Cena can't have a good finish. Either Rock wins, which he shouldn't since he's not going to be around, or Cena wins, which the Miami crowd will hate. There's also the thought that they should give the spot to a new star instead of someone from a previous era.