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  1. Loss
    Scott Steiner still isn't acting like Big Poppa Pump. He's not over in the least. Scott is acting all humble because he says he got a phone call from his mom this week to set him straight. He quits the NWO. Jesus, do they have anything to do to advance a Steiners feud other than false sincerity swerves? He asks Rick to come out and Bagwell comes out doing a Rick Steiner parody. Not remotely funny. WCW is falling apart at the seams. If you listen closely, you can actually hear people changing the channel to Raw.
  2. Loss
    Last few minutes. Rey is still an awesome flier even on an obviously bad wheel. Jericho pulls the ref in front of Mark Curtis when he is about to do a springboard rana, which kills the crowd. Rey pins Jericho but there's no ref. Malenko runs in and counts the fall to set up Malenko as the ref between Jericho and Juventud at Road Wild.
  3. Loss
    Raven has his new theme music and is reciting a terrible poem on a soundstage that with the smoke machines looks like a Cinderella video from 1988. HE HAS ALREADY DEBUTED, WCW. STOP IT WITH THE VIGNETTES!
  4. Loss
    These were brutal. Awful. Terrible. Any other adjective meaning "really bad" you want to use. We decided to only subject you to one of these because we love you. I think the jokes in Bischoff's opening monologue were purposely bad, which is normally my kinda thing, as I adore self-aware bad humor. That said, while this was intentional, it was hardly self-aware. Hogan is Bischoff's guest. They show a clip from Tonight Show of Hogan apologizing to a fake Hogan, only for the real Hogan and Bischoff to take over the show. What crap. 16 years later, I think this segment is still going on somewhere. Hogan promos where he uses the word "shall" are always bad.
  5. Loss
    Clip of Hogan and Bischoff on The Tonight Show. DDP attacks Hogan on Leno. Bischoff tries to intervene and Jay Leno nails him. This was WCW taking the celebrity thing way too far. I'm surprised Hogan didn't team with Keshia Knight-Pulliam against DDP and Raven Simone at Fall Brawl. They end up making the tag main event for Road Wild on Leno. Yuck. Not only that but it's not like they started hyping the match right after Bash at the Beach or anything.
  6. Loss
    Pretty bad video package. WCW laid on the special effects way too thick in these things. The NWO has vandalized a locker room Goldberg will never have to inhabit again after that particular show. How devastating that must be!
  7. Loss
    We join with Spike doing the pescado off the ladder to the floor with a bunch of guys catching him. Sandman takes a ridiculous chairshot. Jack Victory comes out after Dreamer scores the pin and nails him with a guitar. New Jack makes the save with a shopping cart full of plunder.
  8. Loss
    I think there are many ways to sell a storyline. Choshu is obviously capable of selling one, as is Dusty. It's a strong point for both guys. It's just that American guys are generally speaking more inclined to sell a storyline by talking about it. But it's not like anyone other than me complains about Ricky Steamboat's mic work. On the flip side, Akira Hokuto cut what seemed to some pretty impassioned promos during her feud with Kandori. There are going to be outliers like that in both directions. And yeah, that's absolutely something I'll consider. But it's more about the outcome and less about the tools used to get to the same destination. So if people want to factor in things like promos, I don't have much of an issue with that.
  9. Loss
    I suppose I should care more about this considering that it's been built up all year, but I just don't. It doesn't seem to be a bad match or anything. Both guys are working hard. I think the problem is that it's plagued by being in ECW. Instead of just letting the brawling speak for itself, they have to bust out the table that breaks way too easily upon impact and do the stupid stunt on the ramp. They're playing off the PPV match. How All Japan. I'll at least give them credit for staying in the hole for a long time to get over the impact of the spot. Bigelow even sells it when he comes out and Taz acts like he's fine, then goes back to selling in the post-match. Whatever.
  10. Loss
    I think it might also be a motivation for you to dive into 90s All Japan finally. I know you've been wanting to.
  11. Loss
    Right. The WON HOF measures commercial success. This measures artistic success. Both have a place.
  12. Loss
    I see it this way. I don't care about the numbers on gate receipts, but I do care about guys projecting themselves as stars. That Daniel Bryan wasn't an all-time great draw in 2013-2014 is immaterial to me in a poll like this. Because if I was just basing it on what I see, I'd sure think he was an Austin-level star. That will carry some weight here - guys who can get over in a special way with a live crowd. Also, drawing is objective. The fun in this is the subjectivity.
  13. Loss
    I do think we need to define "greatest". There was a contingency last time that thought the word "great" undermined the project if you're throwing it at literally hundreds of wrestlers. Should we call it "best" instead just so we don't waste time on the semantics argument?
  14. Loss
    What if there's no consensus and we are incapable of coming to an agreement on how important it is? Surely that doesn't stall the project.
  15. Loss
    Sounds great. Grimmas is our guy! I'll send you a PM when you are set up with permissions to do what you need to do.
  16. Loss
    If someone will step up and own this and really take it as their project to run, it's theirs. I'll upgrade your permissions on the board and help you get started. No reason to PM me if interested - please just post here.
  17. Loss
    Agreed. There were also people last time around that cast ballots after never posting and then scrammed when asked to explain where they were coming from. It's not so much about making people accountable. That's a harsh way to put it. But you do want to at least understand when seeing the final list what led to people casting their votes in a certain way.
  18. Loss
    I want to elaborate on that point. Barry Windham was a great bell-to-bell worker, possibly better than anyone in my previous post. But Barry Windham was never larger than life. Hulk Hogan was larger than life and had moments in the ring where he was excellent, but also had stretches where he was just going through the motions. Neither guy was able to blend both consistently in a way that made their matches more ... grand? But Austin, Eddy, Flair, Funk and Savage were. Bret and Lawler were. On his best nights, I think Shawn was. Benoit wasn't. Great matches are important to me, but I think that persona that can make a good match even better is the difference between being a great worker and being an all-time great worker.
  19. Loss
    Austin was a great worker bell-to-bell, but I really consider him more of a great all-around performer because I think there was more to him than just his wrestling ability. You could say the same about Eddy Guerrero late in his career. Ric Flair, Terry Funk and Randy Savage also spring to mind. Yes, they are great in the ring, but their all-time status is boosted by how they incorporated their persona into their ring work and made it all click so seamlessly. Without that, they would still have positives, but to dismiss that is to dismiss a huge part of what made them so good.
  20. Loss
    That's why we need someone overseeing everything who makes this project his "baby".
  21. Loss
    I don't know that to be true for sure. What are Flair's standout TV matches in 1988-1989, barring Clash specials? I'm not saying they aren't there at all, but I don't think they are completely absent for Austin either.
  22. Loss
    This match blew my mind at the time. Now, not so much since I've seen both guys in much better matches worked this way. This is better than a lot of touring matches in the sense that they didn't really have to dumb down their normal style or change much about it, since the FMW style fit in so well with the ECW style. This had more wrestling than the usual Sandman/Dreamer crap. I've liked Shane Douglas as a color guy, but he rivals Larry Zbyszko in how he buries this with outdated calls. I've watched a lot between these guys now, with a lot still to come, and I am still trying to figure out what their signature match is. I don't think this is it. This is either a style you love or hate, but they worked the style very well here.
  23. Loss
    Austin clarifies that he and Undertaker are not friends and that the beer didn't mean anything.
  24. Loss
    Shanna Moaker from Pacific Blue recaps the Brawl For All with Bart Gunn.
  25. Loss
    AC Slater offers a handshake to Val Venis at ringside and gets shoved away, since Val is trying to put the moves on his co-star. They end up in a brawl. I guess Slater was a high school wrestler. Val should have taken a page out of the Zach Morris playbook and hired an actress to play his mom, distracting him long enough to get the girl.
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