Bix

Not a steroid, but yeah.

There's also the whole issue of it being AN INTERNET DOCTOR AND PHARMACY.

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I meant his general style.

I don't know if anyone is saying that Viscera was good from jumpstreet. I doubt you'll find anyone who will tell you that he was the better worker in MOM... And I don't think that was just people popping for Mo saults. I think I had my wires crossed. Bix wrote "Really a depressing casualty of the smarkier types having it in for tall guys, fat guys, black guys, and tall, fat, black guys, as well as having overly narrow views of what good wresting is", and well, that doesn't specifically mean he was always good, but that's how I read it for whatever reason. The mention of his Survivor Series '94 match seemed to suggest that, but I wouldn't want to put words in his mouth. I meant that at the very least, he was doing really cool stuff back then.

Ummm. Is this the match from 2004...or did they have a rematch a couple of months ago? 2004.

Don't comp. Myers before me Hiromichi/Samson/Ricky/Kodo Fuyuki: I need to see more FMW, because he really made that Iron Man match w/ Hayabusa. Part of some really great tags in The Footloose. Tito Santana: It hurts that people seem to see him as a poor man's Ricky Steamboat. Otherwise you summed thing up well. Mr. Kennedy: One of the worst wrestlers that people think is any good. The same can be said for his speaking ability. He's bland and visibly clumsy in the ring, and his supposedly great promos are stupid e-fed shit with a lame catchphrase. Someone needs to explain the appeal to me. A.J. Styles: Good to see him finally get an extended heel run, as playing heel really brings out the best aspects of his game, but I can't be bothered to watch TNA. Oh well.

He should also cut promos geared towards people older than 4.

Good to know for sure that Jericho was always on steroids until now. Also, his new finisher is pathetically indy.

The Raw before the murders Raw got a 4.1 to 4.2, the tribute show got a 3.8, the next show only dropped slightly to 3.7, then they got 3.4 for three straight weeks before sharply dropping to 2.8.

Mabel/Big Daddy V/Viscera: Really a depressing casualty of the smarkier types having it in for tall guys, fat guys, black guys, and tall, fat, black guys, as well as having overly narrow views of what good wresting is. Really good at putting together a David vs Goliath TV match (especially the Benoit & Cena matches on Raw) where it was pretty clear that he wasn't being carried. Incredibly agile for his size, the most memorable examples being his cool spin kick in every match, his perfect bump for a Benoit German Suplex, a good F-U bump, and a ridiculous spotfest segment of his Survivor Series '94 match that featured his spin kick, a 2nd rope flying body press, a Ric Flair top rope press slam bump, and an insane Cactus Clothesline. The biggest eye-opener might be a really good submission match vs Mo on Memphis TV a few months ago. "Iron Fist" Clive Myers: My personal favorite World of Sport wrestler. As good as anyone mechanically, but with a type of charisma that kept babyface matches from getting too dull, injecting comedy and likability throughout. I get the feeling that a territory with a large black population could've made something work with him as the black Billy Robinson. The Barbarian: Seems to have gathered more of a hardcore fan following lately, but still underrated. Always impressively agile for his size, he eventually matured into a very solid power wrestler, getting REALLY good around '91. If he's never impressed you, check out his match vs The Big Bossman at Royal Rumble '91, where both guys are at the height of their powers. I would really love to see more of his Memphis '84 run as King Konga, which included a tag w/ Jos LeDuc vs The R&R Express, a singles match vs Buzz Sawyer, and a double dog collar match with LeDuc vs Buzz & Bret Sawyer. More later...

I wanna get some discussion going and this was an old favorite at NMB. I'll reply with my thoughts... ------------------------------------- Mabel/Big Daddy V/Viscera "Iron Fist" Clive Myers The Barbarian Hiromichi/Samson/Ricky/Kodo Fuyuki Tito Santana Mr. Kennedy A.J. Styles

Vince saved the ratings from the post-Benoit freefall. His return took them what is believed to be a 2.8 (the show Neilsen reported as a 2.5 before the glitch was discovered, the 2.8 is based on how other USA shows dropped) to a 3.8.

The new WON has a note from Dr. Julian Bailes, explaining how McMahon and Meltzer misunderstood the findings. The deterioration was similar to that of an 85 year-old man with Alzheimer's, but that Benoit didn't necessarily have Alzheimer's symptoms. He had damage that would make normal stress set off violent reactions.

It was the 1st Cena match.

Here's one the came to mind, whaddya got? Hulk Hogan's embarrassing medical condition: In 1991, Hulk Hogan was scheduled to be a witness against Dr. George Zahorian. Jerry McDevitt, acting as Hogan's lawyer, tried to get him excused, as McDevitt was legitimately treating him for a medical condition that would be more embarrassing to Hogan as a public figure than Hogan's testimony would be valuable to the prosecution. The judge agreed, and 16 years later, nobody's ever leaked it.

Did we ever get an official answer on either one of those? I remember a lot of arguing back and forth, but don't recall if we ever definitively found out if they knew Benoit killed them before they ran the tribute show (and if they did, why would they handle it that way, knowing they'd come out looking like shit mere hours later)We did. They knew at least as of 6 PM EST/3 PM PST, 2 hours before the show, when a high-ranking WWE executive told Meltzer that it was what the police had determined. The belief is that nobody seemed to think it was the truth and that's why they ran the show, which was ridiculously idiotic but mildly excusable. Less excusable is the fact that they lied about it after the fact. Irvin Muchnick wrote a very good piece about the Fragile X component of the story. I'm not sure if WWE planted it from the beginning, but what we know does point in that direction. If someone made it up completely (and Daniel didn't actually have it), they had to have the knowledge that Daniel's physical features and personality fit with the diagnosis, which does suggest WWE involvement. Pam Winthrope, as the parent of a child with Fragile X, would most likely not have made up the story herself, and presumably the same goes for her late husband who claimed to have spoken with Benoit about the issue after hearing that Daniel had it via the Fragile X community, but Benoit telling anyone contradicts everything else we've heard since the murders, so really, I have no idea what to think of that specifically. She refuses to say how the original report came about, if she approached News1130 or vice-versa, making things even more suspicious.

November ends in a week, so let's revisit this... CMLL scarily bottomed out. This is Cena's award and I'll be shocked if he doesn't win. I guess Couture might (grumble grumble). Orton has increased his standing, but otherwise I can't see much changing here. See Flair/Thesz. Will probably end up being Serra-Hughes that wins. Should still be Apache family drama. Cade & Murdoch are excellent but have been unspectacular since the Hardy program ended. I could actually see MVP & Hardy winning. I can't see it being anyone other than Cena or MVP at this point. This is even harder to call than it was 5 months ago. I could see MVP doing well now and he's my pick, but I really don't know who will take it. Still Cena. Not Benoit. Finlay? I dunno. Should be Cena (though I haven't seen the pimped ROH Jacobs stuff). I could see it being someone ridiculous like Samoa Joe who really shouldn't win but gets votes because he hits people. Really could be any of a number of people, and most of them are decent choices. Personally, I'd go with Aero Star at this point. Khali after his world title push will probably take it, even if he earned it somewhat via popping a buyrate. Should still be Michaels or Angle. Probably won't be Punk at this point and I don't know if anyone even cares about Benjamin anymore. Should still be Val Venis but I'm less sure who it will be now. Should absolutely be AAA. Will probably be UFC. I can see AAA making a big increase in votes over past years, though. Smackdown fell a lot. AAA didn't. AAA should win. TUF will. Not sure what worked show will place highest, but I can see AAA placing higher again. This is still my pick. Again, I dunno. He came back, but I can see people souring on him. Teddy Long? Armando Estrada? Probably should still be Vince. Still JBL. I can see Tenay actually taking it now, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if he didn't. Same. What was that show everyone hated more recently...Unforgiven? Probably that, but I can still see D2D placing high. Should be Nitro's split-legged corkscrew moonsault or Aero Star's missile tope. Not sure what it will be. Well, it only took a few days for this to change. WWE's handling of the Benoit fallout. Still TNA. Probably this. I don't see this winning, someone will probably pick the Hornswaggle stuff. Pretty much the same. SD fell off a bit, should be whichever Roldan is officially booking or Konnan or whoever, followed maybe by Dusty. Should be whichever Roldan is officially running AAA. Still MVP. Edge as Vickie Guerrero's lover has a shot even if it started a week before the period ended. Maybe Hornswaggle as Vince's son. Jericho will win. Bret should. Horsemen will win.

Probably because of the Loophole. Wasn't Astin the one that gave him a prescription. Right. The issue is how the amount could have been deemed legitimate by a sane medical professional. Meanwhile, this may have to do with the "85 year-old man with Alzheimers" claim:

The article mentions one example of Benoit's mental deterioration before the murders, his paranoia. Not mentioned is the possibly more damning story of where he called up Regal (long after they stopped being social friends) and asked him to bring over '90s AJPW tapes to watch. Regal got there and Benoit had no memory of their conversation, refusing to open the door.

NWO Robert Vaughn = perfection. Where WAS Scott Hall during this period, anyway? Rehab? Jail?

??? I doubt that the newspaper was a favorite among WWE's target demo with massive national circulations.

...and now millions of Maxim readers will know what happened, with all of the ugly details.

http://www.maximonline.com/Thelastdaysofch...icles/9733.aspx The best mainstream piece I've seen. Nothing new if you've been following the newsletters, but certainly interesting to see in a magazine w/ 2.5 million readers that's geared towards WWE's target demographic.

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