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When asked why, Vince was telling people that it was a "COMPLETELY different audience."
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Ay Tom, we forgot "Kennedy must've gotten so many votes for Most Overrated because he made an ass of himself post-Benoit" before adding that Kennedy's a great promo (really? I mean seriously, really) and is in the right spot because of that. We need to go back to the days of everyone commenting on their ballots.
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The Road Warriors didn't get over after a decade of no selling. The got over almost instantly because of their *look*. And kept getting over because of it. In promotion after promotion. The Warriors were usually over *before* they ever stepped foot in a promotion. They were over in the AWA before they got there. They were over big in Japan before their first tour. They were over in Crockett before they showed up. Look and hype. He stated it wrongly, but he's right about the no-selling bulldozer aspect of their appeal. Since they were on TBS, they were able to do a run as touring attractions. His promos have to be the most overrated of all time. Compare his promos on his DVD (which had to be the best the WWE could turn up since they were trying to make him look like a king) with those by Dusty in the 70s on his WWE DVD. They are not even remotely close. Graham was just babbling nonsense. Dusty, while rambling for a long time, had the ability to pulling himself back in and tie everything up into the points he was making. The one he does with Vince in the empty arena is simply amazing. Note: I always have hated Dusty. If I would, I'd like to give him zero credit for anything in his career. But I can't. So when I say that his interview ran circles around Superstars and Billy's were sucky messes, it's not because I love Dusty. I really don't care to put him over. I'd have to agree about the rambling. Check out this promo from the Watts reels, promoting his Superdome match with Dusty in July '78 (after he lost the WWWF title to Backlund): It's amusing, and neat to see given the lack of McGuirk footage (even if it's a promo sent in from elsewhere), but it's a bunch of non-sequiturs that don't seem to have anything to do with the match. A similar Dusty promo (sent to Memphis) from a couple years earlier: While it's goofy as hell (the phone and 17 dancing go-go bears), he is able to hit all the right spots: He's coming to Memphis to wrestle Lawler to determine the top contender, he makes an Elvis reference for local flavor, and does his trademark bit about all of the races coming together to watch. Pretty much. When watching Memphis footage, even in the bad periods, I tend to watch as much as I can of the Lawler (and Dundee) promos even if I skip other stuff from the feuds, because I love to see how he can make the most of everything, even when feuding with a dead-end like Tom Branch or working a World Title program with prelim guy King Cobra based on Lawler taking offense to King Cobra's name including "King" after Lawler won his lawsuit against the WWF over the deceptive Harley Race advertising (seriously, that's how they started the feud). No... really... they were dogshit. The next watchable Superstar match that I watch will be the first. They're terrible. I like the Dusty matches, but for Dusty, as it's neat to watch him try to carry things with charisma and schtick. One of the 10 most charismatic? I don't think so. One of the 20? 50? I just don't think he was that earth shattering in terms of charisma, especially when you don't tie it to juice-related charisma. A reprise of the "'80s brawlers better than Brody" discussion? I'm surprised this isn't brought up more, since Graham getting a decent length reign allowed them to bring popular occasional guests Dusty & Mil as regulars in a fresh role as babyface challenger (and given how this went against the WWWF formula, fans may have been more inclined to expect a title change).
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I don't doubt that they're grooming him, I was just replying to what sek said about what he thought would be the best use of Adamle's talent. Also, I'm curious as to how Vince thinks this is getting back at Hogan, because you know it's tied into the Hogan-hosted revival of AG being a hit on NBC during a time where WWE's NBC specials do mediocre numbers.
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He's being used in the Okerlund role.
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I don't think Bix is implying that Mike will come in and be "Al Michaels in his Prime good". More along the lines of this being pro wrestling and the Wheef, there's the potential for some good campy fun with Mike given his Gladiators experiance. Exactly. He's a sports guy and a talented broadcaster who has experience with a somewhat similar TV product (where he was excellent) and wouldn't have feelings of being "above" wrestling, which has happened to other wrestling announcers with sports backgrounds, negatively affecting their work. It's a long-running Meltzer talking point that Coachman will never improve as an announcer because he sees himself as above the job and refuses to do research and work at improving himself.
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Everyone understands that's what his job entails. We think that he'd do it better than most of their more recent hires.
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I don't think he was in charge of ECW, though. Dusty is, IIRC.
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You mean that figuratively, right?
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Another holy grail finally turns up (mostly): 1992 WON MOTY
Bix replied to Bix's topic in Pro Wrestling
High quality rip: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KOPB8XFX Dan Ginnetty has the DVD now, which I just got in the mail from him (thanks!) and plan to watch imminently. -
http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/adamle
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He was awesome on American Gladiators.
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http://www.wrestlingobserver.com/wo/news/h...t.asp?aID=21928 This is so beautiful that it deserves its own topic. MIKE ADAMLE.
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I'm pretty sure that Joel Watts is listed in the credits of the "Piledriver" home video. He went to the WWF after the UWF was sold to Crockett, as did Bruce Prichard.
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He did it last year and you said the same thing then.
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WC got rid of the spyware. As far as this year's awards go, is it just me or was Dave really weirdly emo about the placements he didn't like, especially when it came to TNA winning worst TV show? Whining that a few weeks of one bad feud made ECW the worst and how TNA must be better because its ratings went up a little and ECW's went down a lot was strange and out of place.
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He's a little goatee-wearing bitch!!!!!!!111111111
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Started out well, though.
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It's way too hard to determine who's tougher: The woman who beat up a police force or the woman who instilled fear in The Barbarian.
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Lia Miavia. That is all.
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The Jim Ross Is A Grouchy Hateful Vile Human Being thread
Bix replied to Loss's topic in Megathread archive
He had already started it up again when Jericho came back. Plus, given the Flair angle and the fact that it was in Greensboro, yes, he should've gotten a clean-ish win. -
The Jim Ross Is A Grouchy Hateful Vile Human Being thread
Bix replied to Loss's topic in Megathread archive
Back to the topic of Jim Ross, the newest WON has the latest Jim Ross as Vince McMahon's doormat stories: - On JR's birthday, WWE.com was instructed to misreport his age as 63, a year older than Vince (he's actually 56). - Then, at Raw, they sent out Big Dick Johnson to spray JR with champagne because he flying straight from the show to the Fiesta Bowl without a change of clothes so he would have to fly while reeking of alcohol.