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I didn't think Heenan took away from the moment at all. I remember watching it as a 16 year old in my pre-internet days and when Heenan said "but whose side is he on?" it just kind of made me think "no...they wouldn't, would they?" then Hogan dropped the leg on Savage and brought the holy shit moment. In retrospect if Heenan had been clamoring for Hogan to get to the ring that would have been a worse giveaway because they'd been bitter enemies for 15 years and Heenan had NEVER said a nice word about Hogan on TV.

I remember the whole "Goldust hearts Razor" deal and then the subsequent angle of Marlena wanting Sable. I was 16 at the time and being in Canada, hadn't seen any ECW so that was one of the first "pushing the envelope" things I'd seen in wrestling. I remember thinking how "out there" it was and wanting to see where they went with it. Then they cut the character's/angle's balls off.

I noticed that the way I view posts seem to be different now. I'm ridiculously low-tech so forgive me if this is a dumb question. It seems everything is now in a tree below a single post view, as opposed to the layout on say DVDVR (i use that as as an example because the boards are the same software i'm guessing). Was this something I did or just a board changeover? If I did it, how do I undo it? But as far as content goes, I think this board is great. It's rare to find a higher level of discussion on something as inherently ridiculous as pro wrestling, and I'm happy to be a part of it.

While I see what you're getting at, the 80's weak WWF heels weren't World Heavyweight Champion and expected to be taken seriously. Honky had that run with the IC belt but that was about it. I guess we're venturing into the Russo vs. Hart debate of the world title is a prop vs. the world title should be taken seriously. I'll go back to an earlier point I made. Kids today are frequently choosing between UFC and pro wres. One of those two heavyweight champions looks like a total badass that will destroy you. The other was on the Real World. I think the key point is "of his height". But how many others are even in the equation? Onscreen, looking at a legit 7' 300 lb dude (wearing those pants that cover his chicken legs) he's easier to be bought as a badass than a guy whose half his size. In the initial Diesel years and then after the disastrous babyface run, they were able to make him look like a killer. Nash then brought some of that with him to WCW, added the comedy schtick and drew ridiculous money. He wasn't playing chickenshit heel during the NWO years. Sure he's completely broken down now but to say Nash never drew money as a guy that was a "threat" is incorrect.

I *think* this is the exact point Kevin Nash was trying to make online a few weeks ago and in his shoot with Waltman. He just couldn't make it without sounding like a jealous douche I don't think it's too much to ask that the heavyweight champion of the world at least look like a passable tough guy. I'm a lapsed fan, but when I heard that Miz was champ I couldn't get over that some fratboy douche from the "Real World" was now the figurative standard-bearer for the promotion. I said so much on DVDVR, but was promptly shouted down about how Miz is AWESOME. But especially in a world where more and more people would rather watch UFC, think about the guy at home looking at Cain Velasquez and then looking at Miz. Which one does he really believe is a heavyweight champ? I know kayfabe is all but dead, I just don't know why we constantly have to be beaten over the head with it.

They weren't inflated at the time.

That's the first time I'd heard there was a suicide note. Were its contents made public?

I actually enjoy it despite (or perhaps because of) the cheese factor. I also like how they had to constantly rework it because of roster additions/deletions.